Desperate Democrats Are Already Borrowing One of Trump's Favorite Slogans Ahead of Midterms [W:76]

[nota bene]

Re: Desperate Democrats Are Already Borrowing One of Trump's Favorite Slogans Ahead of Midterms

Moderator's Warning:

Enough of the personal remarks. Return to the topic please.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Desperate Democrats Are Already Borrowing One of Trump's Favorite Slogans Ahead of Midterms

I’m curious where this “riding anti trump sentiment” phenomenon exists in current candidates” platforms. Every candidate I’ve seen has been running on progressivist issues.

That's exactly what Paul Krugman Tweeted today.
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1001207911077613573

 

[OscarLevant]

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rotflmao

You want to blame the GOP for the increases in Obamacare? That’s delusional or flat out dishonest or both. It has run amuck with higher costs for less coverage since its inception.

Removing the mandate will increase premiums. Simple math.

ACA resulted in lower rate of increases for insurance premiums than during the Bush years. That's a fact.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Desperate Democrats Are Already Borrowing One of Trump's Favorite Slogans Ahead of Midterms

There are plenty of issues for Democrats to run on. People like the OP need these biased articles that reenforce their own confirmation bias. Among the issues are:

• Health care -- and how the GOP Congress has acted to throw millions of Americans off insurance, raise the premiums and have the government pay more.
• Attacks on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security -- before the ink was dry on the GOP tax-cut on the rich, GOP leaders were planning to reduce these programs to pay for the cuts.
• Capping SALT deductions in blue states -- Blue states have many Republican Congressfolk. They are located mostly in wealthy areas that are mostly effected by dropping SALT. Demographically, there are many swing states.
• Net Neutrality -- having these rules are very popular and the GOP is on the wrong side.
• Corruption -- the party that said it was draining the swamp, against pay to play, etc. are the epitome of these. The Trump Admin is essentially a criminal enterprise.

Let me also add the opioid crisis, which Trump has given merely lip service. The White House plan seems pretty weak but includes the death penalty but the funds in the budget are inadequate for the scope of the problem.

 

[MrMike]

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Removing the mandate will increase premiums. Simple math.

ACA resulted in lower rate of increases for insurance premiums than during the Bush years. That's a fact.

Link please...

 

[American]

Re: Desperate Democrats Are Already Borrowing One of Trump's Favorite Slogans Ahead of Midterms

There are plenty of issues for Democrats to run on. People like the OP need these biased articles that reenforce their own confirmation bias. Among the issues are:


[*]Health care -- and how the GOP Congress has acted to throw millions of Americans off insurance, raise the premiums and have the government pay more.
[*]Attacks on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security -- before the ink was dry on the GOP tax-cut on the rich, GOP leaders were planning to reduce these programs to pay for the cuts.

I don't hear anyone talking about this, but go ahead.

[*]Capping SALT deductions in blue states -- Blue states have many Republican Congressfolk. They are located mostly in wealthy areas that are mostly effected by dropping SALT. Demographically, there are many swing states.

Poor little blue states, I'm sure reds states won't care. :lol:

[*]Net Neutrality -- having these rules are very popular and the GOP is on the wrong side.

So many are discussing this. :roll: :lamo

[*]Corruption -- the party that said it was draining the swamp, against pay to play, etc. are the epitome of these. The Trump Admin is essentially a criminal enterprise.
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Pioneered by the Democratic Party

 

[OscarLevant]

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Link please...

Forbes is no liberal bastion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbma...asnt-jacked-up-your-companys-insurance-rates/

Health insurance premiums have been rising for decades, almost (though not quite) as stubbornly reliable as an eastern sunrise. And it turns out that these increases actually slowed after the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010.

 

[MrMike]

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Forbes is no liberal bastion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbma...asnt-jacked-up-your-companys-insurance-rates/

He’s a freelancer on a mission. Problem is real people (my direct family included) have seen incredible increases since the ACA was shoved upon us. We lost our doctors and our premiums skyrocketed along with larger deductibles for less coverage.

That didn’t happen to us (real life) before the ACA = that’s reality

https://www.pressrush.com/author/5729552/robb-mandelbaum

 

[MTAtech]

Re: Desperate Democrats Are Already Borrowing One of Trump's Favorite Slogans Ahead of Midterms

He’s a freelancer on a mission. Problem is real people (my direct family included) have seen incredible increases since the ACA was shoved upon us. We lost our doctors and our premiums skyrocketed along with larger deductibles for less coverage.

That didn’t happen to us (real life) before the ACA = that’s reality

https://www.pressrush.com/author/5729552/robb-mandelbaum

A) You control the deductible. Want a low deductible? Get a gold or platinum plan.
B) Premiums were rising double-digit before the ACA. Forbes: No, Obamacare Hasn't Jacked Up Your Company's Insurance Rates

Health insurance premiums have been rising for decades, almost (though not quite) as stubbornly reliable as an eastern sunrise. And it turns out that these increases actually slowed after the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010. That's according to data collected by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which tracks a range of topics around spending on health care in its Medical Expenditure Panel Survey. The survey tracks the health insurance offered by private firms big and small, and in all cases, the average rate of premium growth from the time the law passed in 2010 through 2015 was actually lower than from 2004 to 2010. And premium growth was lowest for firms with fewer than 50 employees.

C) Your doctor may have left your insurance plan. That happened before the ACA too. No biggie, get a new doctor in your plan.

 

[MrMike]

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A) You control the deductible. Want a low deductible? Get a gold or platinum plan.
B) Premiums were rising double-digit before the ACA. Forbes: No, Obamacare Hasn't Jacked Up Your Company's Insurance Rates

C) Your doctor may have left your insurance plan. That happened before the ACA too. No biggie, get a new doctor in your plan.

You totally don't get it. I understand your desire to defend Obamacare until your last breath, but sorry, the reality is a Platinum plan (we are under now) doesn't offer the same level of coverage it did before Obamacare and the deductible is higher. As to keeping our doctors and getting another who knows the history, has a relationship with the patient and is high quality, again, you totally don't get it.

Obamacare supporters are little more than socialists dreaming for the next level of government control.

 

[MTAtech]

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You totally don't get it. I understand your desire to defend Obamacare until your last breath, but sorry, the reality is a Platinum plan (we are under now) doesn't offer the same level of coverage it did before Obamacare and the deductible is higher. As to keeping our doctors and getting another who knows the history, has a relationship with the patient and is high quality, again, you totally don't get it.

Obamacare supporters are little more than socialists dreaming for the next level of government control.

It is fundamentally untrue that "the same level of coverage it did before Obamacare." Obamacare made mandatory a list of provisions that all policies must contain. It did not eliminate provisions that insurance companies wanted to offer. Regarding the deductible: The 73 percent of platinum plans with separate medical and prescription deductibles had a $409 average medical deductible in 2016. Many platinum plans have $0 deductibles (88 percent with a combined and 27 percent with a separate medical and prescription deductible).

Regarding the doctors, that is a concern but as I previously stated, insurance companies dropped doctors before and doctors moved plans. Mine did long before the ACA.

The idea that Obamacare, which is private insurance companies, provide private individuals with private insurance policies, is "socialism" speaks for itself.

 

[Greenbeard]

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You totally don't get it. I understand your desire to defend Obamacare until your last breath, but sorry, the reality is a Platinum plan (we are under now) doesn't offer the same level of coverage it did before Obamacare and the deductible is higher.

Individual market insurance is more generous now (i.e., pays for a greater share of the costs of covered benefits), not less.