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Demoracts: Do You Support Maduro in Venezuela?

Do you support Maduro?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 23.5%

  • No

    Votes: 10 58.8%

  • Cofefe

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
LowDown said:
Recently the chair of the Venezuelan legislature was elected President and Maduro was declared to be a usurper in response to the unrest and deprivation in that country.
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Chavez opened Venezuela to democrat elections. Who knew his form of democracy would be utilizing a corrupt elections process to seize dictatorial control of the country for himself and his friends and supporters. Sort of like what some democrat leaders in America are working on. Look what the leftist Venezuelan democrat socialist in chief did to Venezuela before he died and went to answer to God.
 
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MrWonka said:
I don't know about Maduro specifically, but I support the right of the people of Venezuela to Democratically elect their president, and any attempts to undermine those elections are very concerning. Given that in the United States the Republican party is has been doing everything in its power to undermine our own Democracy for some years now though I feel like we really don't have any right to throw stones from our glass house at this point.
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Amen to that. This is where the U.S. was headed, right to the doorsteps of being a 3rd world country by allowing an adversary to elect our president to serve their own self-interests. People here in the U.S. have taken our freedoms and free elections for granted and we have become complacent and lazy when it comes to protecting that right here in our country. People believe that it takes soldiers, airplanes, destroyers and missiles to fight a war but this type of cyber warfare was something we were totally unprepared to fight.

Venezuela has been a mess since Chavez pillaged the country. Maduro did the same, robbed the country of Venezuela and created unbearable hardships for the people of Venezuela. The Russians have been a presence in Russia for a few years now and have recently sent two nuclear-capable bombers to Venezuela and serves to remind the U.S. that Russia can still project military might in the Western hemisphere.

So, what's the big attraction that the U.S., Russia, China, Iran, and other countries are so focused in Venezuela? It's their oil that everyone wants. It's said that Venezuela has the largest offshore oil reserves in the world. Their reserves are so vast that it's estimated that they're greater than Russia and Saudi Arabia - combined.
 
cpwill said:
Sure. None of that here.


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Great source. Twost and spin, cherry pick your "facts," obfuscate and deflect:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/unbiased-america/

Bernie did a lot of things, but your source does not include context, just shocking headlines.
 
Oborosen said:
A few months of watching his people violently fend for themselves, for the most basic amenities a person should be able to possess and I will admit. While watching a group of people trying to kill a cow with rocks for what seemed to be 15 minutes, did tickle that part of my brain that laughs stupid crap on the internet. It was a nice testament to how desperate things were getting and that video was a long while ago.
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I've never seen anything like that and I've paid pretty close attention to the issue there AND in Brazil; Mexico as well; so you're going to have to show me what you're talking about. What I really see there, which I've mentioned previously, is a country that now has Russian support: a Cuba sort of thing and that is what all the trouble is about. There have been legal presidential elections and the US just doesn't like the outcome. It's what we get for all of the interloping ans supporting of the far right over the years.
 
cpwill said:
That's a neat link.

What part, exactly, do you think it answers?

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It answers the bit about how biased your source is, and how they'll spin remarks about wealth redistribution to use words Sanders did not, like confiscation or nationalization.
 
Idiometer said:
It answers the bit about how biased your source is, and how they'll spin remarks about wealth redistribution to use words Sanders did not, like confiscation or nationalization.
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Oh. So if I just say I want the government to take something, that's TOTALLY different from confiscation. And if I just say I want the government to run an industry, taking it from private entities, that's TOTALLY different from Nationalization.

....no. words have meaning
 
cpwill said:
Oh. So if I just say I want the government to take something, that's TOTALLY different from confiscation. And if I just say I want the government to run an industry, taking it from private entities, that's TOTALLY different from Nationalization.

....no. words have meaning
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What Bernie said was about adjusting the tax code so that rich people and corporations pay their fair share, like they did during the Eisenhower administration back in the 1950s. He didn't advocate for confiscation.

And the only corporations he mentioned as being ripe for nationalization are those with major, non-competitive monopolies, like utility companies. I don't know if I like that idea much, but if you were to read what he said about it in context, he has a good point.
 
America once advocated for a 'new world order.' Now it seems that America prefers 'no world order'. There is evidence of a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. Autocrats are seizing power and usurping all the wealth they can manage to steal while they're in power, then they're deposed. President Obama was criticized for saying "Russia is dragging the world back into the 19th century" but it seems more and more that he was right.
 
It's not my place to support or oppose Maduro. I'm not a citizen of Venezuela. That's for them to decide.
 
LowDown said:
Recently the chair of the Venezuelan legislature was elected President and Maduro was declared to be a usurper in response to the unrest and deprivation in that country.
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Didn't get the results you were hoping for. You'll have to find your rightwing propaganda elsewhere. Try Breitbart or 4 chan.
 
jet57 said:
I've never seen anything like that and I've paid pretty close attention to the issue there AND in Brazil; Mexico as well; so you're going to have to show me what you're talking about. What I really see there, which I've mentioned previously, is a country that now has Russian support: a Cuba sort of thing and that is what all the trouble is about. There have been legal presidential elections and the US just doesn't like the outcome. It's what we get for all of the interloping ans supporting of the far right over the years.
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Wait, you're going to sit there and ignore everything that has come out about the country in the last two to three years?

The rampant food shortages, the riots, the mistreatment of prisoners and the rest?

Alright, so if I were to supply a few articles that support my side. Would you be able to supply something to prove this whole interloping and supporting the far-right issue?
 
Oborosen said:
Wait, you're going to sit there and ignore everything that has come out about the country in the last two to three years?

The rampant food shortages, the riots, the mistreatment of prisoners and the rest?

Alright, so if I were to supply a few articles that support my side. Would you be able to supply something to prove this whole interloping and supporting the far-right issue?
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What's happened is that American sanctions have caused the shortages and the unrest https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-30426439

The US is driving the country into civil war.
 
I support the opposition leader in Venezuela. Maduro is a dictator who has his own best interest at heart, not the best interest of his country.

My fear of this happening here is why I don't support Trump. He often seems to put his own interest first. I worry that he will not respect the results of the next election if he does not win.
 
The reporting on Venezuela has been atrocious. I have very good friends from there and they say it is beyond a catastrophe. They also say there are a lot of foreign nationals from Cuba, Russia and China running around helping sustain the current regime. I have no reason to doubt them. At the end of the day though, it is up to the people themselves to find a way out. We need to stay the hell out of there for now and provide humanitarian aid when necessary. Like most Latin American countries, the people themselves have to rid their nations of these despots.
 
LowDown said:
Recently the chair of the Venezuelan legislature was elected President and Maduro was declared to be a usurper in response to the unrest and deprivation in that country.
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Looks like you failed to get the poll answer you were trolling for.
 
LowDown said:
Recently the chair of the Venezuelan legislature was elected President and Maduro was declared to be a usurper in response to the unrest and deprivation in that country.
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Yes. It is a positive Socialism of the style that we need more of in the USA.
 
DaveFagan said:
The USA has offerred NO humanitarian aid to Venezuela. USA/OBAMA energy sanctions have killed the Venezuelan economy and caused poverty and chaos. The USA is responsible for this crisis and is in no way a helpful influence in that Nation. Any one who buys the MSM NARRATIVE that we are trying to help Venezuela needs their head examined. This is the most blatant interference in South American politics since we used the CIA to have Allende killed and installed Pinochet in Chile and just as evil.
Maduro is elected, not a dictsator, May 2018 with 60% of the popular vote. He follows in the footsteps of Chavez who was elected 7 times to institute a Bolivarian Republic/Socialism in Venezuela. A MSM narrative that states either of these individuals is/was a dictator is absolutely false and condemns that Media and citizens should take note.
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https://www.usaid.gov/venezuela

https://www.usaid.gov/crisis/venezuela-regional

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/381678/us-mobilises-aid-for-venezuela
 
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