Democrats does not want to make America great again!

[Conservative]

Are you mature enough to compose your own comments? Anyone can find something something they like on the internet, post a link to it, and say, "Click on this. It proves I am right."

Clinton left office with budget surpluses because he raised taxes on the rich while cutting military spending. It is just that simple. If he had raised taxes on the rich even more the budget surplus would have been higher.

Finding what I want on the interest is very easy, go to Treasury.org and see the content in that link I gave you. You just aren't mature enough to admit you are wrong, why is that? There as no budget surplus there was the dot.com bubble bursting and a recession that started in March 2001. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you and your loyalty

Why did Clinton cut spending???????? Did Reagan's peace dividend have anything to do with it? You truly are an example of what is wrong with liberalism today, too loyal and totally incapable of understanding the private sector. Reagan's deficit included destruction of the Soviet Union thus a peace dividend, Try being intellectually honest for a change.

 

[Superfly]

with $20000 trillions in debt

Why does democrats not want to put americans first?

Why does democrats not want to make America great again?

How's the weather in Chelyabinsk, comrade?

 

[Bullseye]

I am not surprised that you do not like Clinton's tax increase for the rich. It led to seven years of low inflation job creation. The national debt declined every year until Clinton left office with budget surpluses.

As I said the things he did in his second term were far more productive. Since, as I've shown, he felt those hikes were too much, you seem a little silly clinging to them.

 

[SmartCat]

Did you read my link? Clinton said that was too much.

If you understand what you linked to you will be able to convey the information in your own words. Otherwise, you do not understand it. You just like it.

 

[Bullseye]

If you understand what you linked to you will be able to convey the information in your own words. Otherwise, you do not understand it. You just like it.

LOL, show, now you have to resort to insults and false condescension? I have conveyed the information in my own words and provided documentation to back it up.

 

[Tbird19482]

Please stop the leftwing bull****, it never has been about the 44% who aren't paying ANY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES it has always been about you demanding that the rich and corporations pick up the slack. Before penalizing companies and people who do pay taxes by raising theirs get something from those who don't pay any FIT. Seems like a rather simple concept to understand but apparently not. Every time I read one of your posts I get disgusted with the education system that created such ignorance.

OH so now it isn't about the 44% of people who don't pay FIT????
Well then why do you keep crying about it?
YOU keep saying they are getting the benefits from FIT and not paying any FIT yet there are large Corps that get a lot of benefits from the same programs and It is OK with you that they don't pay a cent in FIT
so why is it OK for these Corps. to use these programs and NOT pay a cent in FIT and people on the low end of the income scale have to pay FIT because they use these programs.
and you say we should get something from the 44% of the people who don't pay FIT well why do you think Large Corps making millions / Billions in US profits and use these same programs shouldn't have to pay FIT
again YOU want the low income earner pay for these programs some of these programs are the same ones the Large Corps use and they also should help pay for them
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

OH so now it isn't about the 44% of people who don't pay FIT????
Well then why do you keep crying about it?
YOU keep saying they are getting the benefits from FIT and not paying any FIT yet there are large Corps that get a lot of benefits from the same programs and It is OK with you that they don't pay a cent in FIT
so why is it OK for these Corps. to use these programs and NOT pay a cent in FIT and people on the low end of the income scale have to pay FIT because they use these programs.
and you say we should get something from the 44% of the people who don't pay FIT well why do you think Large Corps making millions / Billions in US profits and use these same programs shouldn't have to pay FIT
again YOU want the low income earner pay for these programs some of these programs are the same ones the Large Corps use and they also should help pay for them
have a nice day

So you think making America great again is raising taxes on the top 1% and corporations who are paying most of the taxes now. Interesting how with people like you making the country great again is making the bureaucrats stronger and giving them more power. why is it with you that it is all about federal gov't revenue and why is it you never address the data showing FIT revenue generating more than enough revenue to pay the discretionary budget we have, 1.8 trillion in revenue for 1.2 trillion in 2018 expenses. Where is the deficit you want to blame Trump on? Why would creating more dependence make the country better?

 

[Tbird19482]

So you think making America great again is raising taxes on the top 1% and corporations who are paying most of the taxes now. Interesting how with people like you making the country great again is making the bureaucrats stronger and giving them more power. why is it with you that it is all about federal gov't revenue and why is it you never address the data showing FIT revenue generating more than enough revenue to pay the discretionary budget we have, 1.8 trillion in revenue for 1.2 trillion in 2018 expenses. Where is the deficit you want to blame Trump on? Why would creating more dependence make the country better?

I see as usual you are changing what people say on here
Where have I ever said raise taxes on the one percent?
Where have I ever said we should be increasing dependence on the Federal Government?
and as for the deficit and debt
Here is a fact check article showing the deficit is going UP under Trump
Trump's 'Deficit Reduction' - FactCheck.org
Newsweek How Much Higher are Trump's Budget Deficits than Obama's?
Forbes Trump's Federal Budget Deficit: $1 Trillion And Beyond
and the GAO U.S. GAO - The Nation's Fiscal Health: Action Is Needed to Address the Federal Government's Fiscal Future
and as always if the deficit goes up so does the debt
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

I see as usual you are changing what people say on here
Where have I ever said raise taxes on the one percent?
Where have I ever said we should be increasing dependence on the Federal Government?
and as for the deficit and debt
Here is a fact check article showing the deficit is going UP under Trump
Trump's 'Deficit Reduction' - FactCheck.org
Newsweek How Much Higher are Trump's Budget Deficits than Obama's?
Forbes Trump's Federal Budget Deficit: $1 Trillion And Beyond
and the GAO U.S. GAO - The Nation's Fiscal Health: Action Is Needed to Address the Federal Government's Fiscal Future
and as always if the deficit goes up so does the debt
Have a nice day

Interesting how all those sites trump the official treasury data, why don't you call them and tell them that their data doesn't matter and is wrong. You want to address the fiscal debt then the gov't has to cut entitlement spending as FIT more than funds the line items Congress created to be funded by FIT.

After all your posts I have no idea where you stand other than you promoting class envy, jealousy, lying about your taxes, and blaming Trump for a deficit increased solely by Entitlement and Interest expenses. Where did you say increase the taxes on the top 1%?? do you even read what you post? As usual you say the same thing over and over again never answering direct questions.

 

[Tbird19482]

Interesting how all those sites trump the official treasury data, why don't you call them and tell them that their data doesn't matter and is wrong. You want to address the fiscal debt then the gov't has to cut entitlement spending as FIT more than funds the line items Congress created to be funded by FIT.

After all your posts I have no idea where you stand other than you promoting class envy, jealousy, lying about your taxes, and blaming Trump for a deficit increased solely by Entitlement and Interest expenses. Where did you say increase the taxes on the top 1%?? do you even read what you post? As usual you say the same thing over and over again never answering direct questions.

Confront Entitlement programs .You Republicans call SS and medicare Entitlement programs and they are NOT funded by FIT but FICA taxes
So IF they are funded by FICA taxes why do you Right wingers keep calling them " ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS"?
The Gov," Borrowed " money from the SS system for years and NOW has to start paying it back , and doesn't have the money.
So instead of paying back the money they " borrowed " they want to cut the benefits people get from these programs.
Again I have said if they want to pay the debt off they should start a national sales tax of say 1% so EVERYBODY pays it , and it would NOT be deductible
for anybody even large Corps.
Everybody benefited from running up the debt so everybody should pay the sales tax and pay it off and when it is paid off it would have to be stopped and a balanced budget amendment where the ONLY time they could spend more then they take in would be in case of a war or a really bad recession or depression.
Have a nice evening

 

[Saboteur]

with $20000 trillions in debt

Why does democrats not want to put americans first?

Well the National debt has only increased no matter what party is in "control".

Why does democrats not want to make America great again?

We want to make America great for the first time... :kissy:

 

[Conservative]

Confront Entitlement programs .You Republicans call SS and medicare Entitlement programs and they are NOT funded by FIT but FICA taxes
So IF they are funded by FICA taxes why do you Right wingers keep calling them " ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS"?
The Gov," Borrowed " money from the SS system for years and NOW has to start paying it back , and doesn't have the money.
So instead of paying back the money they " borrowed " they want to cut the benefits people get from these programs.
Again I have said if they want to pay the debt off they should start a national sales tax of say 1% so EVERYBODY pays it , and it would NOT be deductible
for anybody even large Corps.
Everybody benefited from running up the debt so everybody should pay the sales tax and pay it off and when it is paid off it would have to be stopped and a balanced budget amendment where the ONLY time they could spend more then they take in would be in case of a war or a really bad recession or depression.
Have a nice evening

They are entitlement programs because that is what they are, people are ENTITLED to benefits when they retire. You don't have a clue what taxes you pay or their purpose and that is the problem with radicals like you

 

[Tbird19482]

They are entitlement programs because that is what they are, people are ENTITLED to benefits when they retire. You don't have a clue what taxes you pay or their purpose and that is the problem with radicals like you

You don't even listen to your own right wing propaganda
I think I have said that many many times
People pay FICA and they are entitled to get their money back. putting SS and medicare in to the same group as welfare and food stamps is not right and that is what you Republicans are doing.
and seeing the Gov. has " borrowed " all the money that is in the Trust fund the people who paid in to it are entitled to get that back with interest
so the only way we can pay that back is out of FIT then that is why FIT is now helping to pay for SS and Medicare
have a nice day .

 

[Conservative]

You don't even listen to your own right wing propaganda
I think I have said that many many times
People pay FICA and they are entitled to get their money back. putting SS and medicare in to the same group as welfare and food stamps is not right and that is what you Republicans are doing.
and seeing the Gov. has " borrowed " all the money that is in the Trust fund the people who paid in to it are entitled to get that back with interest
so the only way we can pay that back is out of FIT then that is why FIT is now helping to pay for SS and Medicare
have a nice day .

What the hell are you talking about, FICA funds SS and Medicare, not FIT so why is it your intention to raise FIT mostly on the rich on and corporations? How much money have you contributed to SS and Medicare over your career? What is your monthly benefit? If you invested for 35 years and the Gov't borrowed that money how much of a hole in your account is there? Easier to make the monthly payments than paying back the total amount they borrowed as the IOU's are repaid by borrowing, printing or taxing

How does increasing FIT solve the abuse of the SS and Medicare Trust fund by bureaucrats that you want to basically ignore by just increasing Federal income taxes which never were intended to pay for SS and Medicare

 

[Rogue Valley]

Why does democrats not want to make America great again?

Why do Trumpy not fixx our many pot holes and briges?

 

[Conservative]

Why do Trumpy not fixx our many pot holes and briges?

Probably because your state is too busy spending it on social programs that buy votes, pot hole and bridge repairs that come out of state and federal excise taxes paid make great funding for bureaucrats to buy votes however not sure where you have been but traveling all over the country I see construction everywhere but mostly on federal highways with federal excise tax funds being spent. It does appear that the left has no idea what taxes they pay and their purpose and also spend way too much time in this forum instead of getting out and seeing the booming Trump economy

 

[Amelia]

Indeed. Obama inherited two wars put on the credit card (thus including interest payments) and a tax cut.

I voted for George W Bush twice, and I voted against Obama twice ... and yet I am able to admit that you are correct.

As annoying as it was for Obama to keep reminding us, Obama inherited a nightmare from Bush. And Trump inherited a solid economy from Obama which he started taking credit for immediately.


Edit to add: I suspect it was his annoyance at Obama being credited for the economy throughout 2017 which lit the fire under Trump's destructive tariff policies, which then caused the stock markets to go negative for 2018 and which have given us such a bumpy ride this year. Trump wanted to make the economy his own, so in 2018 he stuck an ice pick through the economy's eye socket and stirred it around a little. Then at the beginning of 2019 when it looked like we were starting to recover from the economic lobotomy, he kicked the economy in the gonads.

Now the economy is weakening enough that the Fed has telegraphed it will lower rates to try to mitigate the damage from the trade wars. Hooray for Trump.

 

[Amelia]

I am an anti-"conservative".

I do not believe that the Great Recession has ever ended.

I believe that Obama did what he needed to do,
or though that he needed to do,
based on the length of the original Great Depression.

I do not believe that an economy based on MASSIVE government spending is a healthy economy,
I believe that Trump COULD HAVE let the economy into a soft landing,
but,
Trump's tax cuts and FED policy are just continuing the government support of a faulty economy.

I thought you were ironically pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump claiming the economy is so great but governing like it sucks and like it's his goal to make it worse ... but now I see you were serious. And you have a good point.

 

[Conservative]

I voted for George W Bush twice, and I voted against Obama twice ... and yet I am able to admit that you are correct.

As annoying as it was for Obama to keep reminding us, Obama inherited a nightmare from Bush. And Trump inherited a solid economy from Obama which he started taking credit for immediately.


Edit to add: I suspect it was his annoyance at Obama being credited for the economy throughout 2017 which lit the fire under Trump's destructive tariff policies, which then caused the stock markets to go negative for 2018 and which have given us such a bumpy ride this year. Trump wanted to make the economy his own, so in 2018 he stuck an ice pick through the economy's eye socket and stirred it around a little. Then at the beginning of 2019 when it looked like we were starting to recover from the economic lobotomy, he kicked the economy in the gonads.

Now the economy is weakening enough that the Fed has telegraphed it will lower rates to try to mitigate the damage from the trade wars. Hooray for Trump.

What you are showing is how successful the media and left is in indoctrinating people, Obama inherited a Democratic Congress, NO approved Budget, TARP that recapitalized the banks, and had his stimulus approved almost day one, and a 10.6 trillion dollar debt INCLUDING the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This notion that he inherited a nightmare is bs as we came out of recession in June 2009 before Obama's spending even took place and it was TARP that recapitalized the banks and is credited with bringing us out of recession, nothing Obama did

It is strange how you and others continue to focus on trying to prop up the failed Obama economic policies because the actual results don't show that. What Trump inherited was declining GDP DOLLAR growth, a 1.6% economy, 9.3% U-6, 7.7% African American unemployment, an 19k stock market, along with state and local gov't coffers in sad shape. Want to post the numbers for those areas today??

Stop buying what the left tells you. What benefit do you get out of removing Trump from office and why is it so hard to celebrate success of today's economy?

 

[Tbird19482]

What you are showing is how successful the media and left is in indoctrinating people, Obama inherited a Democratic Congress, NO approved Budget, TARP that recapitalized the banks, and had his stimulus approved almost day one, and a 10.6 trillion dollar debt INCLUDING the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This notion that he inherited a nightmare is bs as we came out of recession in June 2009 before Obama's spending even took place and it was TARP that recapitalized the banks and is credited with bringing us out of recession, nothing Obama did

It is strange how you and others continue to focus on trying to prop up the failed Obama economic policies because the actual results don't show that. What Trump inherited was declining GDP DOLLAR growth, a 1.6% economy, 9.3% U-6, 7.7% African American unemployment, an 19k stock market, along with state and local gov't coffers in sad shape. Want to post the numbers for those areas today??

Stop buying what the left tells you. What benefit do you get out of removing Trump from office and why is it so hard to celebrate success of today's economy?

10.6 T ??
no it was 10,838,758,414,164.46 on the day he took office
still trying to put part of Bush's debt on Obama
and for your info IF you knew anything you would know you don't get out of a recession over night it takes some time
and as for the unemployment rate Obama took over a 7.8% unemployment rate that was still going up because of the recession , it bottomed out at just over 10 % and when Trump took over it was 4.7% a drop of over 5.3%
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

10.6 T ??
no it was 10,838,758,414,164.46 on the day he took office
still trying to put part of Bush's debt on Obama
and for your info IF you knew anything you would know you don't get out of a recession over night it takes some time
and as for the unemployment rate Obama took over a 7.8% unemployment rate that was still going up because of the recession , it bottomed out at just over 10 % and when Trump took over it was 4.7% a drop of over 5.3%
Have a nice day

Again, you ignore that the President is responsible for the economy day one after taking office except of course in Obama's case because that doesn't support your narrative.

You continue to lie about spending because that is what you want to believe.

You ignore that TARP was included in the CBO Projections because that again doesn't suit you.

You ignore that TARP was repaid and again that doesn't suit you nor was it used to lower the deficit.

You ignore what Obama did inherit, a Democratic Congress, TARP, no approved budget, and a stimulus that saw employment drop to 138 million in 2009 and 139 million in 2010

You ignored that 9.3 trillion was added to the debt because of poor economic policies and no new full time jobs created but rather part time for economic reason jobs paying less in taxes than full time jobs

You continue to focus on blaming conservatives for allowing people to keep more of what they earn and actually raising taxable income on blue state citizens with higher state and local taxes that they can no longer deduct from their federal return

Blame is all you do and accepting responsibility is a foreign concept. Rather sad to see someone like you at your age so poorly informed and unable to grasp the reality of executive responsibilities and the failures of the Obama economic policies leading to the worst recovery in American history

 

[JasperL]

Decorum of this site prohibits members from accusing people of being foreign trolls. Not that I would ever do that.

And 20,000 $Trillions!

:lamo

 

[lurchadams]

And 20,000 $Trillions!

:lamo

Alt-right math [emoji849]

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[Checkerboard Strangler]

Why should a illegal immigrant get free healthcare but not a american born in US?

The healthcare that illegal immigrants get is care at the Emergency Room, thanks to EMTALA, a law signed by Ronald Reagan in 1986.

PS: Any person, illegal immigrant, legal immigrant, or citizen, can get care under EMTALA, but the kind of care you get is VERY LIMITED.
If you have cancer, you will be stabilized and discharged, and you will still have cancer.
If you have diabetes, you will be stabilized and discharged but your diabetes will not be treated.
If you're having a heart attack, you will be stabilized and discharged.
But you will not receive heart surgery to repair your problem.

And by the way, if you don't pay the bill, it just gets tacked onto the health insurance premiums.
It's just about the stupidest solution imaginable, and the least effective and MOST EXPENSIVE.
ER care costs almost five times what regular care costs.

This proves that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, which means you're a Republican.
And you don't even know what a Republican president did in 1986, which means you're an average Republican.
Which means you don't know diddly squat.

Any other questions?

 

[Hamish Howl]

with $20000 trillions in debt

Why does democrats not want to put americans first?

Why does democrats not want to make America great again?

Borat?