Democrats does not want to make America great again!

[Conservative]

LOL. Who increased the deficit to a trillion dollars for this year because of tax cuts to billionaires and millionaires? And did not decrease funding?

Look at the facts, deficits go up under Republicans and down under Democrats. The beginning of Obama's term was high to bail out the economy and stave off a depression. Trump is raising deficit with the tax cuts in a time of economic boom.

Anyway, this is just really lame trolling and I know there won't be any intelligent rebuttal. Anyway, right wingers can keep pushign lies all they want and making asses out of themselves

I can always find you and the same group of radicals in every anti Trump, every anti Private sector, anti Conservative policy threads as you continue to mis-represent the reality. Tax cuts don't cause debt, spending does and that reality always escapes you. How does FIT revenue and Corporate revenue of 1.8 trillion dollars that paid for 1.2 trillion in discretionary spending cause the deficit we had in 2018? You don't seem to grasp any understanding of the taxes you pay or their purpose. You buy the liberal spin that the bureaucrats need the money more than the American taxpayers. Please learn what caused the 2018 deficit, entitlement spending and interest on the debt neither o which were intended to funded by FIT and corporate taxes

Sure wish you people would get an education and learn the line items in the budget and the taxes that fund them. Stop letting the left make a fool out of you or tell us how those bureaucrats are helping you so much that you would send them more money taking it out of the pockets of the state and local governments?

 

[middling]

An impending depression. Both candidates talked about it prior to Obama's election. Stimulus staved off a depression and Obama left with a booming economy that Trump inherited. Talk about pathological liars LOL

Right wingers idea of an argument, say a lie, repeat the lie over and over again with nothing to support it

I am an anti-"conservative".

I do not believe that the Great Recession has ever ended.

I believe that Obama did what he needed to do,
or though that he needed to do,
based on the length of the original Great Depression.

I do not believe that an economy based on MASSIVE government spending is a healthy economy,
I believe that Trump COULD HAVE let the economy into a soft landing,
but,
Trump's tax cuts and FED policy are just continuing the government support of a faulty economy.

 

[bearpoker]

That is 100% false. For the Democratic Party it is massively borrow, spend and promise to spend more money more than the entire wealth of the world to buy votes and to buy the support of the corporate super rich fascists of the world. The Democratic Party demands putting the entire world on American welfare - for which everything everyone wants and needs will be paid for by hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt. Simply, the Democratic Party demands the total financial destruction of the USA as punishment, though openly hopes it mostly kills off all white people by starvation and concentration slave labor camps in the end.

Seriously? For effective trolling, it's important to stop short of the utterly absurd.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Decorum of this site prohibits members from accusing people of being foreign trolls. Not that I would ever do that.

Who could have guessed. LOL!

 

[middling]

I can always find you and the same group of radicals in every anti Trump, every anti Private sector, anti Conservative policy threads as you continue to mis-represent the reality. Tax cuts don't cause debt, spending does and that reality always escapes you. How does FIT revenue and Corporate revenue of 1.8 trillion dollars that paid for 1.2 trillion in discretionary spending cause the deficit we had in 2018? You don't seem to grasp any understanding of the taxes you pay or their purpose. You buy the liberal spin that the bureaucrats need the money more than the American taxpayers. Please learn what caused the 2018 deficit, entitlement spending and interest on the debt neither o which were intended to funded by FIT and corporate taxes

Sure wish you people would get an education and learn the line items in the budget and the taxes that fund them. Stop letting the left make a fool out of you or tell us how those bureaucrats are helping you so much that you would send them more money taking it out of the pockets of the state and local governments?

All of the "conservative" blah-blah cannot hide the fact that when you take in LESS than you spend,
you don't have a great economy.

Entitlement spending is appropriately named.
We are ENTITLED to it, because we PAID FOR IT.
If we didn't pay enough,
it is not our fault that "conservatives" wanted to keep the deductions low,
so as to drive the system into default,
so as to claim the SS CASH INFLOW,
to be able to balance the Baby Boomers CASH OUTFLOW from the market.

 

[Bullseye]

And the reasons why? 2 unfunded wars started by predecessor (who also cut taxes at the same time) and an impending economic disaster, which was staved off thanks to his spending. Also, by the end of Obama's term, the deficit was decreased.

Meanwhile, Trump got a booming economy (thanks Obama) and gives a handout to rich people who don't need it and manages to increase the deficit.

LOL, man, you must have guzzled every flavor of Kool Aid offered at Looney Lib Boot Camp. That "economic disaster - caused in no small measure by his Dem predecessor" staved itself off while Obama was still figuring out where the restrooms in the White Houser were. In 2007 Bush recorded a deficit of $160 Billion; Obama registered Trillion dollar deficits his first four years.
And, yet the deficits DID drop off in Obama's later years - he had a GOP controlled House spending the money.

 

[Tbird19482]

Nonstop incessant pathological lying is the #1 tactic of the Democratic Party.

Obama created more national debt than every other president combined. There is NO intellectual integrity on your message which is worse than "lame trolling."

Why do you Republicans keep repeating the same Republican LIE over and over again?
IF Obama had increase the debt that much or doubled the debt like you republicans keep saying the debt would have been OVER 23 trillion dollars when Trump took office
It was over 11.6 Trillion when Obama took over the debt and budget ( Oct, 1 2009 ) so just X that by 2 and it is over 23 Trillion dollars
you can get the amount Obama increased it remember Obama took over the budget and debt on Oct 1 2009 and Trump Oct 1 2017
( Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application) )
So again Obama did NOT double the debt or ran it up more then all his predecessors combined
Please start doing a little research before you keep repeating Republican lies
Have a nice evening

 

[Conservative]

Why do you Republicans keep repeating the same Republican LIE over and over again?
IF Obama had increase the debt that much or doubled the debt like you republicans keep saying the debt would have been OVER 23 trillion dollars when Trump took office
It was over 11.6 Trillion when Obama took over the debt and budget ( Oct, 1 2009 ) so just X that by 2 and it is over 23 Trillion dollars
you can get the amount Obama increased it remember Obama took over the budget and debt on Oct 1 2009 and Trump Oct 1 2017
( Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application) )
So again Obama did NOT double the debt or ran it up more then all his predecessors combined
Please start doing a little research before you keep repeating Republican lies
Have a nice evening

No, the debt was 10.6 trillion when Obama took office and that is what history shows, regardless of what you want to think. For some reason you ignore reality and continue to trump up failure. Interesting how civics and actual history are a foreign concept to you. You keep telling us that 2009 was Bush yet you cannot post a budget approved for Bush or show us where the TARP repayment was credited against the 2009 deficit. This is why you have zero credibility

 

[Zeaed]

Decorum of this site prohibits members from accusing people of being foreign trolls. Not that I would ever do that.

If i would move to America i would be as much american citizens like everyone else

 

[Zeaed]

Where did you get a word-for-word copy of Trump's 2020 strategy?

Why should a illegal immigrant get free healthcare but not a american born in US?

 

[Zeaed]

Decorum of this site prohibits members from accusing people of being foreign trolls. Not that I would ever do that.

It's ok offended democrat liberals democrats can't be adult never can take a debate

 

[iguanaman]

Data point: Obama is the ONLY President who finished a fiscal year with a trillion-dollar deficit and he did that four times, totally nearly $5.5 trillion.

Data point: Every single Republican President since Nixon has left office with a deficit higher than when he took office.

 

[lurchadams]

If i would move to America i would be as much american citizens like everyone else

So instead you sit in your county and bash the only political party that would welcome you with open arms. Why? Republicans would either put you in a concentration camp or tell you to "go back where you came from".

Your behavior makes no sense, my confused friend.

 

[lurchadams]

It's ok offended democrat liberals democrats can't be adult never can take a debate

Where are you getting your talking points?

 

[Conservative]

Data point: Every single Republican President since Nixon has left office with a deficit higher than when he took office.

Again the deficit argument, do we pay deficit service or debt service? In your world 9.3 trillion in deficits added to the debt isn't a problem because the deficits declined to get to that number?? Liberal logic?

 

[Conservative]

Where are you getting your talking points?

I get mine from History, civics, economics and the official data locations for the Federal Gov't. Suggest you stop reading the rags and letting others make a fool out of you

 

[lurchadams]

I get mine from History, civics, economics and the official data locations for the Federal Gov't. Suggest you stop reading the rags and letting others make a fool out of you

Thanks, but I wasn't addressing you and you know that.

 

[code1211]

What have the Republicans done to reduce the debt? The debt has only gone up under Trump.

If you cared about the debt you'd be calling out both sides for their reckless spending. As you're not, you're obviously only interested in partisanship, not solutions. Why do you hate America?

If the debt was continuing its approximate doubling as it did under both Obama and Bush, it would need to be at a level about $2 Trillion higher than today.

The rate of increase seems to have slowed under Trump.

Of course, that's in the real world. It's also comparing Trump to the two worst Presidents that ever served. So... there's that.

I have not seen or heard this from the Democrat Socialists in the Government or the Media.

 

[Conservative]

Thanks, but I wasn't addressing you and you know that.

Didn't know this was your private forum, where is that in the rules?

 

[Conservative]

If the debt was continuing its approximate doubling as it did under both Obama and Bush, it would need to be at a level about $2 Trillion higher than today.

The rate of increase seems to have slowed under Trump.

Of course, that's in the real world. It's also comparing Trump to the two worst Presidents that ever served. So... there's that.

I have not seen or heard this from the Democrat Socialists in the Government or the Media.

What the left and far too many others refuse to acknowledge are the line items in the budget and what causes the deficit to rise. In the late 60's Democrats created the unified budget allowing SS and Medicare to be put on budget and be borrowed since more money was coming in than going out so bureaucrats did what they always do, borrowed the money, never paying it back thus creating trillions in unfunded liability so that there isn't enough now to pay for those retiring and that is what is causing the deficit we have today.

FIT was created to fund the line items in the budget that Congress created and is paid by corporations and individuals. FIT was never intended to fund SS and Medicare nor infrastructure which is funded by Excise taxes. Now the bureaucrats continue spending money and want the taxpayers who are paying taxes mostly the rich to pay more in FIT to bail them out of the shortfall in Medicare and SS. Supporters on the left have no problem doing that whereas logic and common sense says that is the wrong approach. You want to solve the Entitlement problem do it within the system, not with FIT

 

[bongsaway]

with $20000 trillions in debt

Why does democrats not want to put americans first?

Why does democrats not want to make America great again?

One of the things that would help is going back to basics, like learning english and how to use it in a sentence.

Why does republicans keep repeating this lie among themselves and expect the folks on the left to believe it?

 

[Conservative]

One of the things that would help is going back to basics, like learning english and how to use it in a sentence.

Why does republicans keep repeating this lie among themselves and expect the folks on the left to believe it?

Why is it exactly that you are having a problem understanding the official data and context?

 

[code1211]

What the left and far too many others refuse to acknowledge are the line items in the budget and what causes the deficit to rise. In the late 60's Democrats created the unified budget allowing SS and Medicare to be put on budget and be borrowed since more money was coming in than going out so bureaucrats did what they always do, borrowed the money, never paying it back thus creating trillions in unfunded liability so that there isn't enough now to pay for those retiring and that is what is causing the deficit we have today.

FIT was created to fund the line items in the budget that Congress created and is paid by corporations and individuals. FIT was never intended to fund SS and Medicare nor infrastructure which is funded by Excise taxes. Now the bureaucrats continue spending money and want the taxpayers who are paying taxes mostly the rich to pay more in FIT to bail them out of the shortfall in Medicare and SS. Supporters on the left have no problem doing that whereas logic and common sense says that is the wrong approach. You want to solve the Entitlement problem do it within the system, not with FIT

This problem could be corrected and the entire Social Security liability dissolved if the Social Security Retirement benefits were set up on a 401k model that changed over to an annuity if the retiree actually reached retirement age.

In my case, if the 14% of my pay that was taxed away was instead placed into a 401k style fund, that first year all alone would have created a $135,000 nest egg.

Every succeeding year would have added more to the fund. As the years of Compounded Interest became lower, the amount of taxed SS money increased. That calculation is more complex.

IF IT WAS A 401K MODEL and I died before reaching retirement age, my heirs would get everything I had paid plus interest. In either case, tax would be paid. Instead of a liability, this would be an income generator for the Feds.

The Social Security Retirement program is a Ponzi Scheme.

 

[Zeaed]

One of the things that would help is going back to basics, like learning english and how to use it in a sentence.

Why does republicans keep repeating this lie among themselves and expect the folks on the left to believe it?

I probably speak and type more proper english than your illegal hombres at ms-13

But then you are a offended democrat liberal communist can't act adult and take debate

 

[Zeaed]

So instead you sit in your county and bash the only political party that would welcome you with open arms. Why? Republicans would either put you in a concentration camp or tell you to "go back where you came from".

Your behavior makes no sense, my confused friend.

Any party would welcome me with 70000 greencards no?

Do you think i would pass US border at El Paso or New York?