Democrat Leaders: Now is the time to pay blacks billions in restitution for slavery

[independentusa]

Proverbs 30:15 15"The leech has two daughters. 'Give! Give!' they cry. "There are three things that are never satisfied, four that never say, 'Enough!':



With some people you can keep giving and giving and they will never be satisfied.

I guess you do not know history which is no surprise as few people today do. The blacks when freed after the Civil War were promised forty acres and a mule.

 

[southwest88]

We have plenty of Federal lands out in the west, give them 40 acres and the modern version of a mule.

Ranching (mostly) or farming in the West is destroying the land. Extractive industries - mining - are worse. See

This land : how cowboys, capitalism, and corruption are ruining the American West / Christopher Ketcham, c2019, Viking.

Subjects
Ketcham, Christopher, -- 1973- -- Travel -- West (U.S.)
Public lands -- West (U.S.)
Environmental degradation -- West (U.S.)
Capitalism -- Environmental aspects -- United States.
Political corruption -- Environmental aspects -- United States.
Environmentalists -- West (U.S.) -- Biography.
West (U.S.) -- Environmental conditions.
West (U.S.) -- Description and travel.
United States.
United States, West.

Summary
"The public lands of the western United States comprise some 450 million acres of grassland, steppe land, canyons, forests, and mountains. It's an American commons, and it is under assault as never before. Journalist Christopher Ketcham has been documenting the confluence of commercial exploitation and governmental misconduct in this region for over a decade. His revelatory book takes the reader on a journey across these last wild places, to see how capitalism is killing our great commons. Ketcham begins in Utah, revealing the environmental destruction caused by unregulated public lands livestock grazing, and exposing rampant malfeasance in the federal land management agencies, who have been compromised by the profit-driven livestock and energy interests they are supposed to regulate. He then turns to the broad effects of those corrupt politics on wildlife. He tracks the Department of Interior's failure to implement and enforce the Endangered Species Act -- including its stark betrayal of protections for the grizzly bear and the sage grouse -- and investigates the destructive behavior of U.S. Wildlife Services in their shocking mass slaughter of animals that threaten the livestock industry. Along the way, Ketcham talks with ecologists, biologists, botanists, former government employees, whistleblowers, grassroots environmentalists and other citizens who are fighting to protect the public domain for future generations. This Land is a colorful muckraking journey -- part Edward Abbey, part Upton Sinclair -- exposing the rot in American politics that is rapidly leading to the sell-out of our national heritage." -- Provided by publisher.

Length
422 pages :

 

[danielpalos]

Black Lives rioters, looters and arsonists, and their democrat supporters, have presented a number of demands for whites and Americans in general. These demands are under threat of continued violence if not met, sort of like hundreds of gangs of thugs taking America hostage and demanding their 'ransoms' be met or else. One of the first and foremost of these is the issue of reparations. Blacks and democrats believe America owes blacks money for allowing slavery 150 years ago and before. That money will have to be paid to all blacks and will have to come out of the U.S. Treasury and will no doubt add tens of billions of dollars to the US deficit and debt.

But black lawmakers say that is what will be needed to bring the races together.

“We now have an opportunity, through H.R. 40, to have the highest level of discussion about systemic racism and race,” Jackson Lee said on Tuesday according to The Hill. “And we are able to do it in a manner that is bringing people together; that acknowledges that Black lives matter; and acknowledges that there has to be a response.”

'The American Government Still Owes a Debt': Reparations Bill Gaining Steam in House - Sara A. Carter : Sara A. Carter

Now is the best time for equality and equal protection of the laws in our at-will employment States. We should have no homeless problem in our first world economy.

 

[marke]

I guess you do not know history which is no surprise as few people today do. The blacks when freed after the Civil War were promised forty acres and a mule.

Maybe the owners of the property did not want to give it up? Were American taxpayers on the hook to buy the mules and properties to give to former slaves or were the promises made then like they are today, with no logical or practical payment method in mind?

 

[marke]

Now is the best time for equality and equal protection of the laws in our at-will employment States. We should have no homeless problem in our first world economy.

Socialist oligarchies or dictatorships do not have a homeless problem because communist nations have slave camps.

 

[danielpalos]

Socialist oligarchies or dictatorships do not have a homeless problem because communist nations have slave camps.

We have a welfare clause General and a Commerce Clause in particular to help clarify any ambiguities or vagueness.

 

[marke]

Ranching (mostly) or farming in the West is destroying the land. Extractive industries - mining - are worse. See

This land : how cowboys, capitalism, and corruption are ruining the American West / Christopher Ketcham, c2019, Viking.

Subjects
Ketcham, Christopher, -- 1973- -- Travel -- West (U.S.)
Public lands -- West (U.S.)
Environmental degradation -- West (U.S.)
Capitalism -- Environmental aspects -- United States.
Political corruption -- Environmental aspects -- United States.
Environmentalists -- West (U.S.) -- Biography.
West (U.S.) -- Environmental conditions.
West (U.S.) -- Description and travel.
United States.
United States, West.

Summary
"The public lands of the western United States comprise some 450 million acres of grassland, steppe land, canyons, forests, and mountains. It's an American commons, and it is under assault as never before. Journalist Christopher Ketcham has been documenting the confluence of commercial exploitation and governmental misconduct in this region for over a decade. His revelatory book takes the reader on a journey across these last wild places, to see how capitalism is killing our great commons. Ketcham begins in Utah, revealing the environmental destruction caused by unregulated public lands livestock grazing, and exposing rampant malfeasance in the federal land management agencies, who have been compromised by the profit-driven livestock and energy interests they are supposed to regulate. He then turns to the broad effects of those corrupt politics on wildlife. He tracks the Department of Interior's failure to implement and enforce the Endangered Species Act -- including its stark betrayal of protections for the grizzly bear and the sage grouse -- and investigates the destructive behavior of U.S. Wildlife Services in their shocking mass slaughter of animals that threaten the livestock industry. Along the way, Ketcham talks with ecologists, biologists, botanists, former government employees, whistleblowers, grassroots environmentalists and other citizens who are fighting to protect the public domain for future generations. This Land is a colorful muckraking journey -- part Edward Abbey, part Upton Sinclair -- exposing the rot in American politics that is rapidly leading to the sell-out of our national heritage." -- Provided by publisher.

Length
422 pages :

Industrialization and economic progress are two of the biggest enemies facing greenie weenie democrat, sustainable growth, one world, atheistic, communistic, revolutionary change.

 

[danielpalos]

Industrialization and economic progress are two of the biggest enemies facing greenie weenie democrat, sustainable growth, one world, atheistic, communistic, revolutionary change.

Not sure why. Higher paid labor can afford to pay more in taxes and create more in demand.

 

[independentusa]

Maybe the owners of the property did not want to give it up? Were American taxpayers on the hook to buy the mules and properties to give to former slaves or were the promises made then like they are today, with no logical or practical payment method in mind?

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He land was owned by the Feds even then so the only cost would have been the mule.

 

[danielpalos]

Raising the minimum wage could be worth a tax break for business. Now could be the best time.

 

[southwest88]

They make a desert and call it peace

Industrialization and economic progress are two of the biggest enemies facing greenie weenie democrat, sustainable growth, one world, atheistic, communistic, revolutionary change.

Pick one & only one, I'm afraid. Nearly all the national land held in trust for the citizens of the US is west of the Mississippi. The cattle interests & extractive industries leave behind a disaster, a howling wilderness - without any tress, brush, grass, birds nor any larger mammals.

 

[Jonsa]

The favorite tactic of Racial Identity Politics is to find creative ways to falsely accuse political opponents of racism.

Claiming the Southern Strategy was a call to Racist is exactly that. There are no speeches of Nixon or anyone else in the GOP trying to appeal to racist. Nixon was actually giving anti-segregation speeches as early as the 1950’s, long before there was a political benefit to it.

I have debated this several times, the best evidence anyone can produce are a couple of GOP politicians of today who themselves were not there and are mistakenly repeating the lies about the Southern Strategy. There is one other former Reagan staffer who also was not there, who later switched over to the Democrat party and used that he was once in the GOP to talk s**t about the GOP.

The Southern Strategy was an appeal to Southern Conservatives not Racist, and it failed because The GOP lost most of the South during that election. The South did not become fully Red until about 30 years later. By then The South was no more racist than any other part of the country. The Dixiecrats did not become GOP they died out. There is perfect correlation between the South becoming less racist and more Red.

Out of ignorance and because The Democrats are currently practicing a form of politics that denigrates White People, occasionally some White Supremacist groups try to cling to the GOP but the GOP has never claimed them. Democrats have and still claim racists like BLM and Al Sharpton.

Look up “Politicians who were in the KKK” and you will find dozens of Democrats including a few presidents. The Only GOP politician anyone ever heard of was David Duke. He did win one local race as a Republican but when he tried to go national the GOP kicked him out of the party as much as they could. Robert Byrd who had stronger and more recent ties to the KKK was a Democrat Senator for 40 years and would have been in office at least until 2013 if he had not died. Obama and the Clintons went his funeral with Hillary calling him her mentor. Byrd was making racist comments right up until he died.

Dinesh D'souza Destroys The Concept Of The Southern Strategy - YouTube

while i try to avoid logical fallacies, in this instance it may be a fallacy, but it is none the less true.

Dinesh D'souza is a right wing unqualified quack. Right up your ally it seems.

But by all means attempt to redefine one of the most parsed political election strategies in american politics history.

IOW, debate the southern strategy with your fellow apologists, all others know better.

 

[southwest88]

I doubt that any money will change hands anyway

He land was owned by the Feds even then so the only cost would have been the mule.

1865? No, the BLM was formed from two entities:

President Harry S. Truman created the BLM in 1946 by combining two existing agencies: the General Land Office and the Grazing Service.[3]

1. "The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is an agency within the United States Department of the Interior responsible for administering public lands. With oversight over 247.3 million acres (1,001,000 km2), it governs one eighth of the country's landmass.[2]" (See Bureau of Land Management - Wikipedia)

2. "When the Taylor Grazing Act was passed in 1934 by the United States Congress, an office under the Department of the Interior was also created to manage the act. It was first called the Division of Grazing, but later was renamed the U.S. Grazing Service in 1939.[1]" (See United States Grazing Service - Wikipedia)

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)

So it's a little more complicated. The US government might have been able to distribute land in 1865, but it's not clear if it would require legislation, & whether such legislation would pass legal muster, if the original intent for BLM & other agencies was to preserve the wilderness, rather than to merely sell it off or give it away. & those tracts are still fairly isolated - it's not clear that emancipated slaves would have wanted to move all that distance & homestead isolated plots of ground.