Define assault weapon

[Casper]

every day

Then I would think you would be more Pro firearms

 

[Casper]

The nearest thing would be the National Guard, but they supply all necessary weapons.

To narrow if thinking, I believe too many see the words well regulated and assume it means regulated by the government.

 

[rwee2000]

Why stop there? You should have grenades and flamethrowers, bazookas and rocket launchers, hell even battlefield nukes if your wallet's big enough

What's funny is they are legal if you get the proper paperwork in some cases. And maybe even a nuke if you managed to get the lawful authority you could get a nuke. 18 U.S. Code § 832 "(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon, or threatens to use..."

 

[rwee2000]

Assault weapons have been listed and photographed, so we all know what they are. so your thread seems aimed at trying to fight with people over the definition. The federal government has already defined them and legislatively banned them.

Now if you want to ADD more guns to the list, then you might have an interesting thread.

But the point is almost every semi-automatic gun works on one of two principles, blowback, and gas operated, anything else is really cosmetic. I have a picture of two mini-14's one is considered an "assault weapon" the other is not. they shoot the same round take the same magazine, have the same rate of fire, same barrel, yet one is banned and the other isn't. Of course one is "scary" looking the other isn't. That's really what we are talking about, the term "assault weapon" has no real meaning.

You know what's funny, my hunting rifle uses a much more powerful cartridge then my "assault rifle".

 

[rwee2000]

Hmm... is that because the right of people to keep legally owned property varies depending on where they travel or live? Could a state outlaw vehicles with engines of over 100 hp? How about outlawing vehicles with high capacity fuel tanks of over 10 gallons?

Don't give California any ideas.

 

[vegas giants]

But the point is almost every semi-automatic gun works on one of two principles, blowback, and gas operated, anything else is really cosmetic. I have a picture of two mini-14's one is considered an "assault weapon" the other is not. they shoot the same round take the same magazine, have the same rate of fire, same barrel, yet one is banned and the other isn't. Of course one is "scary" looking the other isn't. That's really what we are talking about, the term "assault weapon" has no real meaning.

You know what's funny, my hunting rifle uses a much more powerful cartridge then my "assault rifle".

Piston driven too

 

[ttwtt78640]

Don't give California any ideas.

They loved my cost saving ideas of allowing folks to live rent-free on the sidewalks (parking lots or under overpasses) and decriminalizing most "petty" crime (e.g. theft under $1K, public intoxication or ****ing on the sidewalk), despite it's slight negative environmental and quality of life impacts.

 

[KevinKohler]

Look up the '94 federal assault weapons ban.

You got here late, so you missed it, but that one was posted, and more or less laughed at, as its not in any way a definition.

California's is much clearer.

 

[vegas giants]

You got here late, so you missed it, but that one was posted, and more or less laughed at, as its not in any way a definition.

California's is much clearer.

It is clearly a federal definition which you may not agree with

 

[KevinKohler]

I think all hand held firearms are protected by the second amendment. once you get into crew served MGs perhaps not. Since Civilian police have select fire carbines (But not crew served machine guns) they are protected

And I think cops shouldn't have full auto weapons.

 

[KevinKohler]

In the case of a select fire weapon, one doesn't have to turn the switch to the rock and roll position. But it would be available during times of need.

Which would be?

 

[KevinKohler]

It is clearly a federal definition which you may not agree with

You should look up the definition of the word definition.

 

[vegas giants]

You should look up the definition of the word definition.

It was clearly defined federal law. It could not be clearer

 

[ttwtt78640]

And I think cops shouldn't have full auto weapons.

Hmm... not even for crowd control?

 

[jet57]

But the point is almost every semi-automatic gun works on one of two principles, blowback, and gas operated, anything else is really cosmetic. I have a picture of two mini-14's one is considered an "assault weapon" the other is not. they shoot the same round take the same magazine, have the same rate of fire, same barrel, yet one is banned and the other isn't. Of course one is "scary" looking the other isn't. That's really what we are talking about, the term "assault weapon" has no real meaning.

You know what's funny, my hunting rifle uses a much more powerful cartridge then my "assault rifle".

We're talking about velocity. Your hunting rifle is for taking down large animals at long range. Assault rifles are taking down lots of people at short range: these are bush guns and their velocity gives them much more fire power. They were and are designed for heavy combat.

 

[jet57]

You got here late, so you missed it, but that one was posted, and more or less laughed at, as its not in any way a definition.

California's is much clearer.

Well, then use California's.

 

[KevinKohler]

Hmm... not even for crowd control?

If they need to spray bullets, they are doing something very wrong.

 

[KevinKohler]

It was clearly defined federal law. It could not be clearer

Where's my sammich?

 

[KevinKohler]

We're talking about velocity. Your hunting rifle is for taking down large animals at long range. Assault rifles are taking down lots of people at short range: these are bush guns and their velocity gives them much more fire power. They were and are designed for heavy combat.

So it's that the rounds it fires are FAST that makes them dangerous?

 

[Casper]

We're talking about velocity. Your hunting rifle is for taking down large animals at long range. Assault rifles are taking down lots of people at short range: these are bush guns and their velocity gives them much more fire power. They were and are designed for heavy combat.

Wow, you know absolutely nothing about rifles but actually think that you do. Amazing.....

 

[KevinKohler]

Well, then use California's.

Its not federal.

The purpose of this discussion isn't for me to provide MY definition of assault weapon, its for others to do so so we can stop talking past each other.

So, is CA example what you want to go with for assault weapon definition?

 

[vegas giants]

Where's my sammich?

Flippitty bippitty

 

[jet57]

So it's that the rounds it fires are FAST that makes them dangerous?

Are you really going to dredge up all that old crap again?

I thought you had something new, but then again your thread is set to get people fighting.

 

[jet57]

Its not federal.

The purpose of this discussion isn't for me to provide MY definition of assault weapon, its for others to do so so we can stop talking past each other.

So, is CA example what you want to go with for assault weapon definition?

That and the federal list, yes.

 

[jet57]

Wow, you know absolutely nothing about rifles but actually think that you do. Amazing.....

Nonsense again.

Your litmus test didn't save you from the '94 ban, nor will it save you from the coming one.

So, here's your question: which of the founders who wrote and debated and and passed the second amendment were ballistics experts and where's their well researched papers that prove what experts they were?


When you've successfully answered that and sourced credible proof of same, then we can continue our discussion.