• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Dear Charlottesville AntiFa: You blew it.

Slingshot Bob said:
They depend on anonynimty. They cant stand scrutiny of their violent tactics. A camera is their enemy.
Ironic when you consider they like doxing people who are on the other side (they are not exactly known for verifying those they dox are in fact, actuall racist)
Click to expand...

Maybe to them, an ordinary liberal "might as well be fascist", just like the phenomenon where anyone who doesn't like Breitbart and the John Birch Society must be a raging commie.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Cal Perry at NBC News and his crew are among several groups of reporters who have been getting viciously attacked without provocation by AntiFa groups, last night and today.

As a liberal Democrat, this is it for me, I disown and disavow ANY approval or support for AntiFa at this point, because despite my own "anti-fascist" point of view, you guys have actually managed to create an atmosphere which destroys ANY sympathy for your actions. Attacking news media is a bridge too far.

No, not the thousands of people who simply attended or observed the rally in support of liberal ideas, JUST YOU GUYS. You're not helping. You SUCK. You are now the very monsters you profess to hate.

Congratulations, and in future do not ask for my support, as I believe ordinary mainstreamers like myself are capable of doing a much better job of it.
The only thing you're accomplishing today is making yourselves look like douchebags and assholes.
Click to expand...

Seriously you just noticed that they are a bunch of assholes? They were always the monster that they pretended to hate. The reason they show up is to cause trouble, not because they has some moral issue with nazi's but because they wanted to exploit them in hopes that they would help them start a civil war. They never wanted your support unless it meant that you would be a tool to attain their goal of destroying the government. See in their belief system the US and ALL GOVERNMENTS are fascist. They want to cause the destruction of all governments thats what they are there for at these protests.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
They depend on anonynimty. They cant stand scrutiny of their violent tactics. A camera is their enemy.
Ironic when you consider they like doxing people who are on the other side (they are not exactly known for verifying those they dox are in fact, actuall racist)
Click to expand...

What's 'doxing'? Never heard that term.
The fact about free expression in society is that extremism on one side begets extremism on the other. That's how a sane middle ground is maintained. It's like calculating the average.
If anyone doesn't like the extremists opposite them, the only way to make them go away is to suppress the extremists beside them. Works for both sides.
 
Grand Mal said:
What's 'doxing'? Never heard that term.
The fact about free expression in society is that extremism on one side begets extremism on the other. That's how a sane middle ground is maintained. It's like calculating the average.
If anyone doesn't like the extremists opposite them, the only way to make them go away is to suppress the extremists beside them. Works for both sides.
Click to expand...

Doxing:
search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.
"hackers and online vigilantes routinely dox both public and private figures"

Root word is "document" therefore "docs" = "dox"
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Sorry to disappoint you but I cannot stomach Chuck and Nancy.
Three time losers, 2010, 2014 and 2016.

They're done. Miserable creatures.
Click to expand...

That's not the point...though I don't blame you for missing it.

Moving on...
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Seriously you just noticed that they are a bunch of assholes? They were always the monster that they pretended to hate. The reason they show up is to cause trouble, not because they has some moral issue with nazi's but because they wanted to exploit them in hopes that they would help them start a civil war. They never wanted your support unless it meant that you would be a tool to attain their goal of destroying the government. See in their belief system the US and ALL GOVERNMENTS are fascist. They want to cause the destruction of all governments thats what they are there for at these protests.
Click to expand...

Contrary to Mycroft, Trix, and a handful of other hacks, I did not "JUST NOTICE".
 
Grand Mal said:
What's 'doxing'? Never heard that term.
The fact about free expression in society is that extremism on one side begets extremism on the other. That's how a sane middle ground is maintained. It's like calculating the average.
If anyone doesn't like the extremists opposite them, the only way to make them go away is to suppress the extremists beside them. Works for both sides.
Click to expand...

Doxing, the practice Antifa engages in, to OUT the Nazis (which can mean simply being seen on the wrong side of the street at a rally) publish your name and address, contact your employer (works good for Antifa, since most are unemployed millennials) post flyers around town etc.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Sorry but you both should be ashamed.

There were exactly ZERO "very fine people" in this group:

Click to expand...


You don't know that everyone that attended the daytime rally was a racist, Nazi etc. Could of been concerned historians and average joes concerned with the attempt to erase history, in the crowd.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
You don't know that everyone that attended the daytime rally was a racist, Nazi etc. Could of been concerned historians and average joes concerned with the attempt to erase history, in the crowd.
Click to expand...

That is very true. However, the moment you start seeing the Cross of the Klu Klux Klan, Swastikas, and pseudo-historical Aryan/white nationalist symbols being worn or carried by several fellow members of the crowd, I think it behooves the majority to either make it clear that those people have nothing to do with them OR it behooves those people within the crowd who are not white supremacists or neo-Nazis to step away from that crowd entirely.
 
Last edited:
Barnacle said:
Just because you keep falling for spoofs, you want prove that images provided by others than the left are real ... :lol:

Click to expand...


I'm anti-fascist but I didn't sign up for any "young communist league".
There are several antifa members or fans here on DP and it pisses them off no end when I post anything that accuses them of being douchebags.
For the uninitiated, this is probably the fifth time I've posted my own personal "unpleasantries" about them.
I've also posted some less than friendly stuff about social justice warriors, probably three or four different threads.
My my my, it done brang them outta da woodwork.
Tough titty said the kitty but the milk tastes ****ty.

You guys are not helping, not in the least.
PS: If you're going to be a citizen journo, invest at least in a cheap Rode Videomic.
I recommend going for something better.
The on camera mic is crap.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
You don't know that everyone that attended the daytime rally was a racist, Nazi etc. Could of been concerned historians and average joes concerned with the attempt to erase history, in the crowd.
Click to expand...

Oh FFS...
Yeah, that bunch were concerned with history alright...the history they must have learned reading "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
 
calamity said:
Was it really Antifa though? I'm not buying this.

Antifa would not even be there since there were no Nazis on the site. I'll wait until I see something more substantive on this report.
Click to expand...

Who were the Fascists on site during the last two Portland events?

Antifa is an American terrorist group. They use terror tactic and intimidation to silence groups they disagree with.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Oh FFS...
Yeah, that bunch were concerned with history alright...the history they must have learned reading "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
Click to expand...

So anyone not Antifa had to be a supremacist? Our local camp of Sons of Confederate Veterans recently protested the drive to removes Lee's statue in Ft Myers (Lee county BTW)

You can look them up, they are a group that places Confederate flags in Confederate cemetaries and maintains them. They are also a historical org. You can look them up, not even MSM calls them Supremacist, in fact they have broken ties with groups that display supremacy, Like League of the South.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Who were the Fascists on site during the last two Portland events?

Antifa is an American terrorist group. They use terror tactic and intimidation to silence groups they disagree with.
Click to expand...

Not to mention, if calamity cared to research it, he could go on their site and see the calls to assemble there...
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Contrary to Mycroft, Trix, and a handful of other hacks, I did not "JUST NOTICE".
Click to expand...

Fair enough, but by reading the OP it makes the reader think otherwise. I mean I have no clue why you would think that people whom dressed and showed up to cause trouble would "be hugging people and jumping around for joy, whooping and hollering".

What I am saying is that if you thought that these thugs were huggers or kind people, you obviously were clueless about what type of people that they are. And let me point out that I am not making some trump/republican argument. Their point of view on it is nothing more than whataboutism. They never seem to convincingly hold the white pride folk to the level of hate as they do antifa. They always unite into defends the racist crap while attacking antifa scum while ignoring the other scum. They just look like racist apologists.

And unfortunately the democrats were suckered into siding with antifa just like they were suckered into the whole occupy thing. You would have thought that they learned from that mistake. Of course you need to realize that many in antifa were in the occupy movement as well.
 
Atomic Kid said:
So then you are of the opinion too that there are some good Nazis?
Click to expand...

I am of the opinion that there were good people on both sides at Charlottesville. Of course by saying that I'm sure that you'll hear the word "nazi's". Even though I didn't say that.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Contrary to Mycroft, Trix, and a handful of other hacks, I did not "JUST NOTICE".
Click to expand...

Of that I am sure of, which explains and justifies the content of my responses to you on this thread.

You have known all along, before this incident with NBC ever occurred, that they regularly engaged in violent attacks on innocent people (including members of the media), the destruction of private and public property, and used those tactics as a means to silence political speakers that they disagreed with. You saw/read about them doing this over and over and over again, and voiced no outrage at all.

It wasn't until antifa attacked a reporter from NBC News, that you declared "Attacking news media is a bridge too far" and lead to you disavowing them. That sir speaks volumes and leads not only me, but many others to these inescapable conclusions:

1. You disowning them had nothing to do with antifa's violent behavior, because as you just stated, you've known about that for a long time.
2. You disavowing them had nothing to do with antifa "Attacking the news media"because as you know there have been several instances over the last two years where journalist, reporters and videographers in the media were attacked.
3. The only reason you are now disowning and disavowing them, is because they dared to attack someone from a network that's outwardly supportive of your political ideology and the progressive agenda... aka, they attacked a political ally of yours.

Please don't play the "you can't prove I supported antifa" game, because your own words already established your support... You see, the only way you could "disown and disavow ANY approval or support for AntiFa" was to have such support and approval to begin with. A person can only disown that which they embrace and support.

.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Cal Perry at NBC News and his crew are among several groups of reporters who have been getting viciously attacked without provocation by AntiFa groups, last night and today.

As a liberal Democrat, this is it for me, I disown and disavow ANY approval or support for AntiFa at this point, because despite my own "anti-fascist" point of view, you guys have actually managed to create an atmosphere which destroys ANY sympathy for your actions. Attacking news media is a bridge too far.

No, not the thousands of people who simply attended or observed the rally in support of liberal ideas, JUST YOU GUYS. You're not helping. You SUCK. You are now the very monsters you profess to hate.

Congratulations, and in future do not ask for my support, as I believe ordinary mainstreamers like myself are capable of doing a much better job of it.
The only thing you're accomplishing today is making yourselves look like douchebags and assholes.
Click to expand...

When will you guys learn that this is what ANTIFA is about. This is what they have been telling you that they were about and you didn't believe them.
 
FreeWits said:
When will you guys learn that this is what ANTIFA is about. This is what they have been telling you that they were about and you didn't believe them.
Click to expand...

I understand you are being diplomatic and I commend you for it.... But in reality, it's absurd to believe that there is anyone, even someone with only a passing interest in politics, that isn't fully aware of the violence and destructive behavior associated with, and embraced by, the mob known as antifa.

Sadly, they all know exactly what antifa is and have never doubted their words, actions or intentions for a second.

.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Maybe to them, an ordinary liberal "might as well be fascist", just like the phenomenon where anyone who doesn't like Breitbart and the John Birch Society must be a raging commie.
Click to expand...

There is no "maybe", that is precisely the case. If you remember the Milo UC Berkeley riots, they tagged a few buildings with "Liberals get the bullet too", anyone not "with" them is a fascist and supports white supremacy. This is how they can justify calling an orthodox jew (Ben Shapiro) who had lost family to the holocaust a nazi and white supremacist.
 
Nap said:
There is no "maybe", that is precisely the case. If you remember the Milo UC Berkeley riots, they tagged a few buildings with "Liberals get the bullet too", anyone not "with" them is a fascist and supports white supremacy. This is how they can justify calling an orthodox jew (Ben Shapiro) who had lost family to the holocaust a nazi and white supremacist.
Click to expand...

They really are a confused lot. Calling people like Candice Owens a "white supremacist" and flying the Russian flag.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom