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David Hogg, An American Hero in the Making[W:116]

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Hogg was good on TV — great, even — and in the marathon of coverage that followed the Parkland shooting, he honed his persona. Angry, edgy, righteous, relentless, he was the warrior who would take anyone on and refused to be knocked off message. The White House called to invite him to the president’s “listening session” on guns, and he hung up on them. He told this to Bill Maher on his HBO show, physically leaning across his friend Kasky and into Maher’s face to make his point. “I ended on this message with them: We don’t need to listen to President Trump. President Trump needs to listen to the screams of the children and the screams of this nation.”

Yes. The kid has presence. And, the kid has stones. David does not scare easy.

Hogg, in fact, was frequently not on the bus but traveling separately in a black SUV accompanied by bodyguards. If he were a politician, one of the staffers told me, the intensity of interest in him would merit 24-hour Secret Service surveillance. “We get people armed to the teeth showing up and saying, ‘Where’s David Hogg?’ ” Deitsch told me. An outfit called the Utah Gun Exchange had been following the kids on tour all summer — on what it called a pro–Second Amendment “freedom tour” — sometimes in an armored vehicle that looks like a tank with a machine-gun turret.

The NRA seems to take Hogg’s existence as an affront, having tweeted out his name and whereabouts and inciting its approximately 5 million members by perpetuating the falsehood that the Parkland kids want to roll back the Second Amendment. Hogg’s mother, Rebecca Boldrick, says that in June she received a letter in the mail that read, “**** with the NRA, and you’ll be DOA.”

David Hogg Is Taking His Gap Year at the Barricades

America needs more kids like David. Godspeed, Mr. Hogg. May your mission be a successful one.

What is his mission? Gun control, of course.

Hogg has emerged as the leader of a newly invigorated anti-gun-violence movement, the living embodiment of its message and a human front in a new culture war.
 
Re: David Hogg, An American Hero in the Making

Davig Hogg? Psh, he was so last month. The conservative right's current existential threat to baseball, capitalism and apple pie is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
 
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Yes. The kid has presence. And, the kid has stones. David does not scare easy.

America needs more kids like David. Godspeed, Mr. Hogg. May your mission be a successful one.

What is his mission? Gun control, of course.

Davig Hogg? Psh, he was so last month. The conservative right's current existential threat to baseball, capitalism and apple pie is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

The RW Swamp is scared **** of these kids. Terrified. Because they know their time is up. I am happy people my age and younger are getting out there and shaping national politics. I may not agree with their politics, and they may not have the grasp on totally everything that they should, aside from the issue they care about, but who cares? They are younger than when most of the people in DC got their start, and they already have a larger platform than the majority of them. They got the time The RW Swamp does not. They elected a con-artist who can't spell and eats paper. You can't get any worse than that.
 
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Yes. The kid has presence. And, the kid has stones. David does not scare easy.



America needs more kids like David. Godspeed, Mr. Hogg. May your mission be a successful one.

What is his mission? Gun control, of course.

The only one worried about boy Hogg nowadays is Pelosi.
 
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I hope Hogg gets his message out to people and they reject it for the foolishness it is. I don't condone any physical threats made agianst him.


Each time he speaks and is shown on TV I get calls for gunsmithing side jobs. Two or Three more showings and ill be able to get the Kimber I've been eyeing early this year.
 
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Yes. The kid has presence. And, the kid has stones. David does not scare easy.



America needs more kids like David. Godspeed, Mr. Hogg. May your mission be a successful one.

What is his mission? Gun control, of course.

The more gun control talk the more you help Trump and his band of idiots. A lot of my friends hate Trump and all he stands for, but they will not vote for someone that pushes for gun control. Just like on this site, they are irrational about guns and scared to death of being disarmed.
 
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I hope Hogg gets his message out to people and they reject it for the foolishness it is. I don't condone any physical threats made agianst him.


Each time he speaks and is shown on TV I get calls for gunsmithing side jobs. Two or Three more showings and ill be able to get the Kimber I've been eyeing early this year.

The more gun control talk the more you help Trump and his band of idiots. A lot of my friends hate Trump and all he stands for, but they will not vote for someone that pushes for gun control. Just like on this site, they are irrational about guns and scared to death of being disarmed.

Maybe then his message is right. These people shouldn't have guns because they are paranoid lunatics.
 
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Hero? The notion of what constitutes heroism has certainly suffered of late.
 
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The RW Swamp is scared **** of these kids. Terrified. Because they know their time is up. I am happy people my age and younger are getting out there and shaping national politics. I may not agree with their politics, and they may not have the grasp on totally everything that they should, aside from the issue they care about, but who cares? They are younger than when most of the people in DC got their start, and they already have a larger platform than the majority of them. They got the time The RW Swamp does not. They elected a con-artist who can't spell and eats paper. You can't get any worse than that.
Something about surviving a massacre gives this kid validity. I normally would never agree with the David Hoggs of this world: too young, too inexperienced, blah blah blah. But, I don't think that can be applied here.

Considering what he went through, I see him more as a wounded vet type spokesman than I do a high school senior.
 
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The more gun control talk the more you help Trump and his band of idiots. A lot of my friends hate Trump and all he stands for, but they will not vote for someone that pushes for gun control. Just like on this site, they are irrational about guns and scared to death of being disarmed.

I'm good with people taking a stand, even if I don't agree with it. I'd rather the D go down fighting while believing in something than die in a battle of appealing to people who would never vote for them anyway.
 
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Maybe then his message is right. These people shouldn't have guns because they are paranoid lunatics.

Doesn't matter, it's a loser for the Dem's. You guys have the best chance at making big gains right now and really the only way to make Trump unbeatable is to come out hard now against gun owners.

And yes, most of Trumps base is just scared old men that probably shouldn't have guns. But they do and they are scared of everything other than other scared old men and they vote.
 
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Something about surviving a massacre gives this kid validity. I normally would never agree with the David Hoggs of this world: too young, too inexperienced, blah blah blah. But, I don't think that can be applied here.

Considering what he went through, I see him more as a wounded vet type spokesman than I do a high school senior.

Honestly. I think he knows more than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She seems to be the left's Sarah Palin. I think it's interesting that Hogg is a firebrand of the anti-gun movement. The NRA hasn't really had that type of opposition before. Before Hogg, even Democrats just tolerated the organization. They didn't really go after it. I see the Democrats looking at people like Hogg and Avenatti in a wait and see approach. But at this point they probably waited too long.
 
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Honestly. I think he knows more than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She seems to be the left's Sarah Palin. I think it's interesting that Hogg is a firebrand of the anti-gun movement. The NRA hasn't really had that type of opposition before. Before Hogg, even Democrats just tolerated the organization. They didn't really go after it. I see the Democrats looking at people like Hogg and Avenatti in a wait and see approach. But at this point they probably waited too long.
They tried the "when they go low, we go high" thing under Obama, and they got their asses kicked. It's time to bring out the firebrands.
 
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Doesn't matter, it's a loser for the Dem's. You guys have the best chance at making big gains right now and really the only way to make Trump unbeatable is to come out hard now against gun owners.

And yes, most of Trumps base is just scared old men that probably shouldn't have guns. But they do and they are scared of everything other than other scared old men and they vote.

The Democrats can do whatever they want for all I care, as I am not one. I will gladly vote for one if they have a platform I can agree with, since I am NEVERTrump. Since Avenatti is the only person running atm, I cannot really say what that is yet.

A lot of young people and women scared S*** of the Handmaid's Tale will be voting this time too.
 
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I'm good with people taking a stand, even if I don't agree with it. I'd rather the D go down fighting while believing in something than die in a battle of appealing to people who would never vote for them anyway.

Gun control will never be a thing, so losing elections just to say you were for something is stupid and counter-productive. But I'm not a Dem so they can lose however they want. I got no party anymore, turns out mine was bat**** crazy and I just didn't see it. Never to late to get your eyes opened I guess.

To go from running a man of character like Mitt to the biggest piece of **** human they could find is wild to me.
 
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They tried the "when they go low, we go high" thing under Obama, and they got their asses kicked. It's time to bring out the firebrands.

Do you like Avenatti for 2020? I'm watching him very closely. He's actually in NH right now and was in Iowa last week and I think Ohio too. I honestly feel like Biden might benefit from him being in the race. Biden can latch onto his attacks and bring it all home. We'll see.
 
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They tried the "when they go low, we go high" thing under Obama, and they got their asses kicked. It's time to bring out the firebrands.

There is the old cliche that you don't bring knife to a gunfight. For far too long, the Dems have brought a pillow. And Obama and Schumer were grossly guilty of this offense.

Its time the Dems were just as big SOB's as McConnell and Trump are and screw bringing a hand gun to the gunfight - bring a freaking cannon for heavens sake.
 
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YES! WTF is survived in quotes?

The coach who took a round or two and died from it protecting the kids was heroic. Not getting shot isn't. I didn't get run over by a car today, and I could've been. I'm a hero. :roll:
 
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Yes. The kid has presence.

Yep....just like a cloud of flatulence in a small room that's holding a bean-eating contest (or worse, a Mexican food-eating contest).
 
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Surviving a mass shooting should qualify no?

As a hero? No. Nor an expert.

Hogg is a bully and profiteer.
 
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He is a great gun salesman, like Obama was. He is destined to be a rising star in the fake news industry2dscr8.webp
 
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I have no beef with David Hogg but the Chicago model is an interesting one. A city boasting some of the strictest gun control laws in the USA. Chicago run by Democrats calls their gun control laws "common sense," and presumably with the results making Chicago one of the safest cities in the Union. Chicago also prides itself on being belligerently anti-Trump.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/08/20/chicago-weekend-shootings-gun-violence-violent-crime/

Excerpt from link in bold:

At Least 58 People Shot In Chicago This Weekend; 6 Dead, 52 Wounded
August 20, 2018 at 6:00 pm

CHICAGO (CBS) — Nearly 60 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend, six of them fatally, including two missing teenage boys found dead in a field late Sunday night. The bloodshed made for the second most violent weekend of the year in Chicago, and the second weekend this month at least 60 people were shot.

If all of the USA could just become enlightened, Democratic Party, Chicago with strict, common sense gun laws, how much better all the USA would be. Such a heart warming tale. :blushing2
 
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