Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

[vesper]

Interesting. I looked it up and the "Obama power grab" that's the headline isn't on the border, but 20 miles or so north of El Paso, so that's an odd "path" that starts after they've traveled through a major city.... So that claim was typical IBD garbage.

How about Organ Pipe? If you read the article you'd think it's a death trap for tourists, but And another article describes Organ Pipe, which is apparently an awful, dangerous place beloved by visitors based on Google ratings, this way:



So it's just not an open corrider and the Border Patrol has access with their vehicles to the entire border in that park.

No the link I provided did not say anything about El Paso. It focused on New Mexico and Arizona and yes it was correct. If the border patrol was able to access the border of this Arizona protected Federal lands, why were the parks closed because the park officials could not stop the massive crossing of illegals and drug cartel?

Think about that for at least a minute before responding. .

 

[Skeptic Bob]

What kind of Texas is this? Hell, when I was in H.S. there were Texans being locked-up for years for a few joints! Yeah, was a long time ago; but still.

It ain't even those dirty hippies in Austin, either. It is Dallas Freaking Country!

 

[Thoreau72]

Holy Cow, Common Sense has made it to Dallas!

 

[JasperL]

No the link I provided did not say anything about El Paso. It focused on New Mexico and Arizona and yes it was correct.

Find the Organ Mountains Desert Peaks on a map - that was Obama's "land grab." It's 20 miles or so NORTH of El Paso. I don't know why a drug smuggler would cross the border, walk through a major city, and into a mountainous park to smuggle drugs. Can you explain it? Seems like it would be easier to load the drugs into a.....car or truck in the city!

IBD is a joke of a publication these days. Pure partisan garbage. That article is an example of why I quit reading them. They didn't disappoint - still worthless.

If the border patrol was able to access the border of this Arizona protected Federal lands, why were the parks closed because the park officials could not stop the massive crossing of illegals and drug cartel?

Think about that for at least a minute before responding. .

Again, there's video of the area. There's a barrier along the entire length, with a wide area fully accessible by cars/trucks/SUVs. It's a popular park, not the 'war zone' described by IBD. The last incident was 17 years ago. Sure, people and drugs cross there but it's not the nightmare IBD describes. Read the reviews of the park online if you want.

I don't know why IBD and others feel the need to make up crap. There isn't any need, and it kills their credibility.

 

[JasperL]

Pure cronyism and subversion. Intended on playing loose with the laws on their friends and hammering their enemies instead of blind justice, instead of resolving our failing system.

It's the opposite. When you announce that they're not going to prosecute minor pot possession charges, any of them, it eliminates cronyism and playing loose with friends, and hammering "enemies." There's also no such thing as "blind justice" in the real world. And the approach is an attempt to resolve our failed system of more jails, more prosecutions, especially with homeless, mentally ill, and minor non-violent drug charges. What has we accomplished anywhere with a War on Pot? I know where I live it's cheap, strong and available to any HS student with $100 or less. Why prosecute low level possession cases? Do you just like giving police and prosecutors power to ruin lives for low level "crimes?"

 

[vesper]

Mostly because the new DA won't be prosecuting most crimes.

DA Creuzot letter to the people of Dallas County

Misdemeanor possession of weed? Won't be prosecuted.
Flipping Xanax on the corner? No jail until it comes back from testing and then you get a ticket instead of a warrant.
Homeless sleeping in front of your business? Too bad for you! It's "inhumane" to run them off.
That homeless person sleeping in front of your store just stole 20 cases of beer? Nobody's going to prosecute that because theft of personal items less than $750 is now legal in Dallas County. Well, it's not really legal but nobody is going to prosecute it.
Is your license suspended? Feel free to drive. Nobody is going to prosecute stuff like that.
Are you looking at probation? Don't sweat it. Nobody is going to ask for anything significant. Your lower level felonies won't get more than 6 months probation.
Do you need to come up with bail? Not in Dallas County! Low level felons with no convictions in the last 5 years are to be released on their own recognizance.

Good luck, Dallas County! Something tells me you're going to need it.

I went on the internet and watched some local coverage of this DA's decisions and it is not being met with open arms with the police and sheriffs departments especially the part of 750 bucks on theft. Those in law enforcement shared some things about theft and how it hurts mom and pop stores the most. Once something is stolen from their stores even if it is retrieved it has to be thrown in the trash by law especially perishables. They said there is a real problem in South Dallas with theft in these small stores and even in the large ones as Walmart is closing its store due to all the theft. In one clip it showed surveillance in one small store of a thief loading his backpack with about 600 worth of merchandise and walking out. The spokesperson for the police said by making a crime like that not prosecutable these store owners will have to close up shop. If the store owner confronts the thief it could force a confrontation the store owner should never had to be put in a position in the first place. The DA is acting alone on these new changes because he doesn't appear to have the support of law enforcement especially over the 750 dollar deal.

dallas crime news - Bing video

 

[Lutherf]

I went on the internet and watched some local coverage of this DA's decisions and it is not being met with open arms with the police and sheriffs departments especially the part of 750 bucks on theft. Those in law enforcement shared some things about theft and how it hurts mom and pop stores the most. Once something is stolen from their stores even if it is retrieved it has to be thrown in the trash by law especially perishables. They said there is a real problem in South Dallas with theft in these small stores and even in the large ones as Walmart is closing its store due to all the theft. In one clip it showed surveillance in one small store of a thief loading his backpack with about 600 worth of merchandise and walking out. The spokesperson for the police said by making a crime like that not prosecutable these store owners will have to close up shop. If the store owner confronts the thief it could force a confrontation the store owner should never had to be put in a position in the first place. The DA is acting alone on these new changes because he doesn't appear to have the support of law enforcement especially over the 750 dollar deal.

dallas crime news - Bing video

That's exactly right. The proper way to assist the poor is to encourage productive behaviors, not to condone destructive behaviors. The idea is to help people get out of poverty, not to make continuing in poverty easier.

Well, that the way to do it unless your goal is to make sure that you have a built in voter base in your district.

 

[joko104]

Up until 10 years ago Dallas County was Republican. Now that it is Democrat run it is no surprise their DA literally legalized theft.

That is the view of the Democratic Party in general. Need something? Just steal it from other people, ideally with the government stealing it for you.

 

[joko104]

The DA declared himself the dictator of Dallas County and told the elected legislature and governor to go to hell, he'll make up his own laws being a self declared God. That also is a trait of the Democratic Party. If you don't like any law then ignore it and make up your own laws - whatever suits YOU.

 

[JasperL]

That's exactly right. The proper way to assist the poor is to encourage productive behaviors, not to condone destructive behaviors. The idea is to help people get out of poverty, not to make continuing in poverty easier.

Well, that the way to do it unless your goal is to make sure that you have a built in voter base in your district.

That's BS. No need to attribute bad motives to this.

Just for example, the new DA was a pioneer in what are called around here "Drug courts." They take low level drug offenders, refer them to treatment centers instead of off to prison, and then reward them for being clean with an expunged record. If you have evidence that's a bad approach and putting them in jail for a year or two, they come out with a felony conviction, and THAT is how to encourage "productive behavior" then let's see it. What I've seen is the approach drastically reduces recidivism, costs society less (because jailing someone is expensive) lowers crime rates, and is a net good all the way around. Do you know differently?

If not, then maybe the goal IS to get non-violent low level criminals the help they need, which isn't going to be found in a jail or prison. This guy has spent years as a prosecutor and two decades as a judge. Maybe he knows a bit more than you do and is relying on evidence? You might consider that before attributing bad motives to the person based on nothing. just a suggestion.

 

[vesper]

Up until 10 years ago Dallas County was Republican. Now that it is Democrat run it is no surprise their DA literally legalized theft.

That is the view of the Democratic Party in general. Need something? Just steal it from other people, ideally with the government stealing it for you.

There were some stories not too long ago about Soros and Steyer two billionaires that were engaged in funding activist groups solely focusing on getting leftist thinking DA's elected across the country.

 

[SmartCat]

Mostly because the new DA won't be prosecuting most crimes.

DA Creuzot letter to the people of Dallas County

Misdemeanor possession of weed? Won't be prosecuted.
Flipping Xanax on the corner? No jail until it comes back from testing and then you get a ticket instead of a warrant.
Homeless sleeping in front of your business? Too bad for you! It's "inhumane" to run them off.
That homeless person sleeping in front of your store just stole 20 cases of beer? Nobody's going to prosecute that because theft of personal items less than $750 is now legal in Dallas County. Well, it's not really legal but nobody is going to prosecute it.
Is your license suspended? Feel free to drive. Nobody is going to prosecute stuff like that.
Are you looking at probation? Don't sweat it. Nobody is going to ask for anything significant. Your lower level felonies won't get more than 6 months probation.
Do you need to come up with bail? Not in Dallas County! Low level felons with no convictions in the last 5 years are to be released on their own recognizance.

Good luck, Dallas County! Something tells me you're going to need it.

I could understand that in Berkeley, California, but Dallas County? :shock:

 

[Lutherf]

I could understand that in Berkeley, California, but Dallas County? :shock:

Democrats have been targeting major metropolitan areas for decades because wins in those places can turn the whole state. Dallas is no exception. It gets more and more blue every year as Californians retire and move to a no tax state which they then mess up for everyone who has lived there all along.

 

[joko104]

Democrats have been targeting major metropolitan areas for decades because wins in those places can turn the whole state. Dallas is no exception. It gets more and more blue every year as Californians retire and move to a no tax state which they then mess up for everyone who has lived there all along.

The growth in Dallas County took Republicans past Dallas County lines, mostly up into Collin and into Denton and Ellis County. While Dallas went Democrat, the greater metropolitan area collectively is Republican. It was massive Latino population growth that turned Dallas County. Latinos moved in and whites moved out. However, the beginning of the transition and history goes further back. The increasingly liberal Democratic Party turned Dallas County and Texas Republican in the late 1970s and Dallas County held Republican into the 2000s. But white flight out and mass Latino population growth turned Dallas County itself back Democrat.

Like most Southern major urban cities, the Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan area is massive urban sprawl - solid people over 100 miles wide and now about 70 miles tall and growing. I-35 from Dallas to Austin and San Antonio is become like one continuous city, only clearing out some around Waco. Nor has the growth stopped as there is construction going on all over the area - and it will continue to do so as long as Republicans hold the state.

 

[Lutherf]

The growth in Dallas County took Republicans past Dallas County lines, mostly up into Collin and into Denton and Ellis County. While Dallas went Democrat, the greater metropolitan area collectively is Republican. It was massive Latino population growth that turned Dallas County. Latinos moved in and whites moved out. However, the beginning of the transition and history goes further back. The increasingly liberal Democratic Party turned Dallas County and Texas Republican in the late 1970s and Dallas County held Republican into the 2000s. But white flight out and mass Latino population growth turned Dallas County itself back Democrat.

Like most Southern major urban cities, the Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan area is massive urban sprawl - solid people over 100 miles wide and now about 70 miles tall and growing. I-35 from Dallas to Austin and San Antonio is become like one continuous city, only clearing out some around Waco. Nor has the growth stopped as there is construction going on all over the area - and it will continue to do so as long as Republicans hold the state.

That's the same reason Tucson is liberal Democrat while the surrounding area is relatively conservative.

 

[TheParser]

Where the heck is the justice for the person that was the victim of their property being stolen?
Where is the justice for the hard working business owner having to put up with vagrants sprawled out in front of their places of business?
Where is the justice for the person who follows the law driving down the road and gets hit by some asshole with no license and no insurance?

The answer to your question is clear: There IS no "justice" for good middle-class people anymore in the United States of America.

The only people who get "justice" are those people who are championed by the bleeding hearts (who, of course, keep their distance from the people they profess to love).


The people who voted for that DA should be ashamed of themselves. Some of them are going to bitterly regret their decision.

 

[vesper]

The answer to your question is clear: There IS no "justice" for good middle-class people anymore in the United States of America.

The only people who get "justice" are those people who are championed by the bleeding hearts (who, of course, keep their distance from the people they profess to love).


The people who voted for that DA should be ashamed of themselves. Some of them are going to bitterly regret their decision.

According to criminal records for Dallas County the southern district in Dallas and neighboring cities theft is a huge problem. If you check the latest data available of the makeup of people living in that area is from 2017 and almost 43% were not born in the U.S.

You know things are bad when a Walmart is closing its store in southern Dallas because of theft.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Well evidently you didn't see what the Hell has been going on in the state. If it was so conservative why in the hell is what they call a border barrier is no more than a bunch of saw horses that can be walked over or under.
Why is it so easy for illegals to cross into Arizona and trample and destroy protected lands and leave a trail of massive trash behind them.
Why is it so easy for illegals to drive across the border into these protected lands destroying everything in their path?
Why is it so much of the barrier on the Arizona border was put up to stop vehicles from driving through but was so flimsy that illegals could dig right under it and enter.
Why is it that Arizona had to close its parks on the border because of all the illegals trampling through including drug cartel in the middle of the night with campers in the park.
Tucson is 68 miles from the border. Don't tell me Tuscon is conservative because conservatives would not put up with this **** just 68 miles from the border.

This prosecutor is in Dallas County, Texas. Not Arizona.

You don't like the way crime is handled in Arizona, elect different officials. Dragoon Stephen Miller from the White House.

 

[vesper]

This prosecutor is in Dallas County, Texas. Not Arizona.

You don't like the way crime is handled in Arizona, elect different officials. Dragoon Stephen Miller from the White House.

Hey know it all, the conversation went to Arizona and after a couple of posts I stopped responding to them because this thread is about Dallas country.

But if you had read the thread hopefully you are smart enough to figure that one out. But hey maybe not.

 

[joko104]

According to criminal records for Dallas County the southern district in Dallas and neighboring cities theft is a huge problem. If you check the latest data available of the makeup of people living in that area is from 2017 and almost 43% were not born in the U.S.

You know things are bad when a Walmart is closing its store in southern Dallas because of theft.

The retail stores close. People who can afford to move out do. Lower income people move in. Theft and crime comes with them. Where the most criminals are is where the most Democrat politicians are.

 

[jdog21]

It's the opposite. When you announce that they're not going to prosecute minor pot possession charges, any of them, it eliminates cronyism and playing loose with friends, and hammering "enemies." There's also no such thing as "blind justice" in the real world. And the approach is an attempt to resolve our failed system of more jails, more prosecutions, especially with homeless, mentally ill, and minor non-violent drug charges. What has we accomplished anywhere with a War on Pot? I know where I live it's cheap, strong and available to any HS student with $100 or less. Why prosecute low level possession cases? Do you just like giving police and prosecutors power to ruin lives for low level "crimes?"

Cops should do their job and gather evidence, make arrests, and write tickets, regardless of the color of skin, religion, income, friends, or fame.
DA prosecute those arrested in a court regardless if the like the crime or disagree with the law. All charges should be brought forth and only those that have no evidence for their crimes are put on hold until latter dates.

If you have a problem with petty theft or marijuana use then you have a problem with the politicians that write the laws. Not with the cops that enforce them or with the DA's the prosecute them.

 

[JasperL]

Cops should do their job and gather evidence, make arrests, and write tickets, regardless of the color of skin, religion, income, friends, or fame.
DA prosecute those arrested in a court regardless if the like the crime or disagree with the law. All charges should be brought forth and only those that have no evidence for their crimes are put on hold until latter dates.

If you have a problem with petty theft or marijuana use then you have a problem with the politicians that write the laws. Not with the cops that enforce them or with the DA's the prosecute them.

Police in every jurisdiction in America routinely make decisions day to day about arresting someone or not, charging them or not, warning, wink and a nod or not, etc. Same with DA's offices. So they choose not to arrest, or choose not to prosecute, every minute of every day, it's just random and subject to whims, who they like, who they don't.

But, hey, it's an experiment. Dallas county will get to see how it works and they can make decisions next election accordingly. It's one of those great things about decentralized government.

 

[jdog21]

Police in every jurisdiction in America routinely make decisions day to day about arresting someone or not, charging them or not, warning, wink and a nod or not, etc. Same with DA's offices. So they choose not to arrest, or choose not to prosecute, every minute of every day, it's just random and subject to whims, who they like, who they don't.

I understand that it happens but we should all be trying to put pressure on them to not judge and just apply the law. Either they broke it or they didn't. That's what I advocate for. You are advocating for the opposite. You are advocating for less transparency, less equality of justice, and more political judgments in our law enforcement and justice departments.

 

[JasperL]

I understand that it happens but we should all be trying to put pressure on them to not judge and just apply the law. Either they broke it or they didn't. That's what I advocate for. You are advocating for the opposite. You are advocating for less transparency, less equality of justice, and more political judgments in our law enforcement and justice departments.

We see this 180 degrees different. When the cops don't arrest ANY minor pot crimes, or the DA chooses to waive or reduce EVERY pot charge, and they announce this to everyone, that's MORE transparency, MORE equality of justice, and FEWER political judgments, because the same rules apply whether you're a rich white spoiled brat and son of a powerful county commissioner or some poor black kid. We all know that son or daughter of a powerful local politician will nearly always get the warning, wink and nod, and that poor white or black kid rarely does.

 

[jdog21]

We see this 180 degrees different. When the cops don't arrest ANY minor pot crimes, or the DA chooses to waive or reduce EVERY pot charge, and they announce this to everyone, that's MORE transparency, MORE equality of justice, and FEWER political judgments, because the same rules apply whether you're a rich white spoiled brat and son of a powerful county commissioner or some poor black kid. We all know that son or daughter of a powerful local politician will nearly always get the warning, wink and nod, and that poor white or black kid rarely does.

]whether you're a rich white spoiled brat and son of a powerful county commissioner or some poor black kid. We all know that son or daughter of a powerful local politician will nearly always get the warning, wink and nod, and that poor white or black kid rarely does

Each should be arrested and charged equally. Thats what im advocating for. If you don't want pot holders to be charged then you need your politicians to make that change in the law. Not police and DAs deciding what laws they will or will not enforce.