Country singer says visit from Jesus on her porch changed her life

[zyzygy]

Given the choice between a god turning up for a chat or this only took place in her imagination I know which I would choose. I wonder if the Christians here would believe a person who said that they chatted to Krishna?

 

[OlNate]

Given the choice between a god turning up for a chat or this only took place in her imagination I know which I would choose. I wonder if the Christians here would believe a person who said that they chatted to Krishna?

I would believe any person who said they spoke to their God...that's what prayer is. :shrug:

 

[Omega Man]

I would believe any person who said they spoke to their God...that's what prayer is. :shrug:

There's a substantial distinction between conversing with ones god thru prayer, and claiming to argue all afternoon with its physical manifestation.


OM

 

[Daisy]

Given the choice between a god turning up for a chat or this only took place in her imagination I know which I would choose. I wonder if the Christians here would believe a person who said that they chatted to Krishna?

No...I believe what the Bible says...Jehovah is the only True God so that would be literally impossible...

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Why is it that when an outlandish and seemingly crazy religious claim is made, then questioned, that your default position is to blame the person questioning the claim, and NOT the person making the claim?

Who isn’t listening?
I’m pretty sure it’s clear you’re the one NOT listening.

The ironic thing about many people's response, particularly religious, is that oh, when it comes to religion, you can't dare question the absurd claims people made. But at the same time many are also quick to criticize other religious beliefs, or those of "cults" or newer religions like scientology as being crazy. or not even that, if someone say they were abducted by aliens, or some other crazy stuff, they would mock them. BUt somehow its a no no to question absurd religious beliefs because people call it religion?

Sorry, they are the same exact thing, thinking you spoke to a flying purple monster or spoke with Jesus, same thing.

 

[Rich2018]

Country singer says visit from Jesus on her porch changed her life | Fox News





So yeah....I'm skeptical.

Did she get some smartphone video? A selfie with Jesus? Anything that might actually provide some evidence of this encounter being factually true?

Also, wtf is this part?



Argued? Seriously?
If you believe you're talking to Jesus, would you "argue" with him?

All day long?
She was alone with "Jesus" all day long, and nobody else saw any of it?

So much about this "story" is bizarre.

So my question is, does anyone actually believe it's true?

She was under the influence.

Or just lying as the majority of her fan base believe in Jesus and she thinks it's a good career move.

 

[zyzygy]

I would believe any person who said they spoke to their God...that's what prayer is. :shrug:

You are a pantheist? All gods exist? There are thousands of them.

 

[VanceMack]

Country singer says visit from Jesus on her porch changed her life | Fox News





So yeah....I'm skeptical.

Did she get some smartphone video? A selfie with Jesus? Anything that might actually provide some evidence of this encounter being factually true?

Also, wtf is this part?



Argued? Seriously?
If you believe you're talking to Jesus, would you "argue" with him?

All day long?
She was alone with "Jesus" all day long, and nobody else saw any of it?

So much about this "story" is bizarre.

So my question is, does anyone actually believe it's true?

What a shocker. The person that has spent months starting threads attacking faith attacks an individuals belief with nothing more to go on their your own petty hatred. Color me...stunned. Really. I dont reckon I will see anything like this for...I dont know...at LEAST another day or so.

 

[OlNate]

There's a substantial distinction between conversing with ones god thru prayer, and claiming to argue all afternoon with its physical manifestation.


OM

Disappointing...given your respectable amount of knowledge about the Bible and Church culture, you don't recognize what is being said here. I re-read the article on more time, and recognize it as the way many fundamentalist Christians describe their experience of God. As I've said a couple times now, there would be very few Christians that would read that and think Jesus had come for tea...but we'd all understand both the feeling of God's presence, and "arguing" with him in prayer. She's describing a moving religious experience, in the way that a lot of people describe religious experiences.

I get the haters seizing the opportunity to mock, but I'm not sure why you're adding to it. Surely you know better? Or have you just not hung out with many fundamentalists?

 

[Daisy]

The ironic thing about many people's response, particularly religious, is that oh, when it comes to religion, you can't dare question the absurd claims people made. But at the same time many are also quick to criticize other religious beliefs, or those of "cults" or newer religions like scientology as being crazy. or not even that, if someone say they were abducted by aliens, or some other crazy stuff, they would mock them. BUt somehow its a no no to question absurd religious beliefs because people call it religion?

Sorry, they are the same exact thing, thinking you spoke to a flying purple monster or spoke with Jesus, same thing.

Evidently many have never read this verse or if they have, they've not considered what it means...it was foretold that miraculous abilities granted by the spirit to the apostles, and passed on by them to others, would last only during the infancy of the Christian congregation, and then ending...the account shows that was the case only when one or more of the apostles were present...Jesus and his apostles warned of future deceptive powerful works that would be done by apostates and also by a symbolic wild beast, enemies of God.​..Matthew 7:21-23; 24:23-25; 2 Thessalonians 2:9, 10; Revelation 13:11-13...

"Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with.

 

[OlNate]

You are a pantheist? All gods exist? There are thousands of them.

I know what I know, and I don't fret about the rest. :shrug: It's a big universe, and I'm just a little man, even at 6'3". I believe in something I have no hope of proving to anyone else...who am I to say who's right and who's wrong? I do the best with the understanding I have - thankfully that doesn't require me to be a douchebag to people who understand things differently. :shrug:

 

[zyzygy]

I know what I know, and I don't fret about the rest. :shrug: It's a big universe, and I'm just a little man, even at 6'3". I believe in something I have no hope of proving to anyone else...who am I to say who's right and who's wrong? I do the best with the understanding I have - thankfully that doesn't require me to be a douchebag to people who understand things differently. :shrug:

You know that all gods exist? So if I say a had a visit from Krishna I should be believed without question?

 

[Omega Man]

As I've said a couple times now, there would be very few Christians that would read that and think Jesus had come for tea..

Yet that's precisely what she's claiming... physical manifestation.

Sorry that you're disappointed that I responded in kind.


OM

 

[OlNate]

Yet that's precisely what she's claiming... physical manifestation.

Sorry that you're disappointed that I responded in kind.


OM

Seriously, have you hung out with fundys at all? They talk like that all the time, and this is no different. You're taking what she says at face value without considering meaning or context. Come to think of it, you might make a pretty good fundy.

 

[OlNate]

You know that all gods exist? So if I say a had a visit from Krishna I should be believed without question?

I mean, you quoted the answer, so I'm assuming you know I already answered this... Do I need to rephrase?

 

[zyzygy]

I mean, you quoted the answer, so I'm assuming you know I already answered this... Do I need to rephrase?

You said that you know what you know. That is hardly an answer to my question.

 

[zyzygy]

A quick look around the net shows that this is not doing her career any harm in the Bible Belt.

 

[Dragonfly]

You're taking what she says at face value without considering meaning or context.

Please describe, in detail, EXACTLY how OlNate determines her meaning and context.

 

[zyzygy]

I wonder if she asked Jesus why God gave her cancer in the first place and why does God give children cancer? Perhaps that is what the argument was about.

 

[OlNate]

You said that you know what you know. That is hardly an answer to my question.

Actually it is, when you read the rest of it. I don't "know" if ANY God exists. I believe that mine exists, which forces me to make room for the fact that other people believe theirs exists. So, if they tell me they're talking to their god, I believe them. Again, that's what prayer is. Whether their god exists, or responds, or does the Macarena with a unicorn every time their name is called, well...that's the stuff I don't fret about.

If you need me to rephrase that again, just let me know what to say...that's the best I can do, in terms of attempting to explain something that you, as a non believer, could never really understand.

 

[zyzygy]

Please describe, in detail, EXACTLY how OlNate determines her meaning and context.

"Jesus Christ walked onto my front porch and argued with me all day long. As real as I'm sitting in this seat, Jesus came to my front porch and He's like, 'She's mine,'" she told PopCulture and other media, explaining that Jesus was lovingly referring to her.

The context seems very clear.

 

[Dragonfly]

What a shocker. The person that has spent months starting threads attacking faith attacks an individuals belief with nothing more to go on their your own petty hatred. Color me...stunned. Really. I dont reckon I will see anything like this for...I dont know...at LEAST another day or so.

Look at you.
Personal attack against me, yet not a single response at all to any of the content in the OP.

Talk about "shocking".

:roll:

 

[zyzygy]

Actually it is, when you read the rest of it. I don't "know" if ANY God exists. I believe that mine exists, which forces me to make room for the fact that other people believe theirs exists. So, if they tell me they're talking to their god, I believe them. Again, that's what prayer is. Whether their god exists, or responds, or does the Macarena with a unicorn every time their name is called, well...that's the stuff I don't fret about.

If you need me to rephrase that again, just let me know what to say...that's the best I can do, in terms of attempting to explain something that you, as a non believer, could never really understand.

You believe that they believe that they are talking to their god. I believe that too.

 

[justabubba]

I just don't get people on the right. Presented with facts, they claim it's fake. Presented with the most outrageous story about god, what's not to believe?

Since the folks on the right like to say, prove it, how come these claims about god never have any proof?

And we wonder how trump won.

there is a reason we refer to those who believe as having "faith" ... we do not refer to them as having "proof"

 

[Dragonfly]

You believe that they believe that they are talking to their god. I believe that too.

Talking to god is one thing, arguing with god "all day long" is quite another.