Could Trump pardon Kavanaugh?

[Tanngrisnir]

I don't think you are really in a position to discuss what I understand. you're just mad that a cheap ploy to slander a good man failed and he is on the court. The charges against him had ZERO supporting evidence and should never have been handled this way.

LOL! I go by what you post, of course, and that's essentially princple-free lust for power, completely devoid from any moral basis that I can see, and as partisan as it gets. You even pouted recently that you want Kavanaugh to take revenge on dems.

And slander? Please. I can't be mad at something that didn't happen to a man so steeped in self-entitlement, blind rage, questionable finances and partisanship that he's laughably unfit for the highest court in the nation.

And it shouldn't have been handled like it was. It should have had a complete and thorough FBI investigation; something that didn't happen.

Who do you think you're fooling? You're a naked partisan who's happy, no matter what the circumstances, that another naked partisan got the seat.

At least be honest about that.

 

[vesper]

How many more PKCS threads (Post Kavanaugh Confirmation Syndrome) will we be treated to here at DP?

 

[TurtleDude]

LOL! I go by what you post, of course, and that's essentially princple-free lust for power, completely devoid from any moral basis that I can see, and as partisan as it gets. You even pouted recently that you want Kavanaugh to take revenge on dems.

And slander? Please. I can't be mad at something that didn't happen to a man so steeped in self-entitlement, blind rage, questionable finances and partisanship that he's laughably unfit for the highest court in the nation.

And it shouldn't have been handled like it was. It should have had a complete and thorough FBI investigation; something that didn't happen.

Who do you think you're fooling? You're a naked partisan who's happy, no matter what the circumstances, that another naked partisan got the seat.

At least be honest about that.

it would have if Feinstein had not played silly games. and once Ford named four people-none of whom remembered her claims, what else was there to investigate?

 

[TurtleDude]

How many more PKCS threads (Post Kavanaugh Confirmation Syndrome) will we be treated to here at DP?

They won't ever let it go-2 years later they are still engaged in butt hurt whining about the election.

 

[azgreg]

His successor.

Not all solutions are long term. :mrgreen:

 

[Tanngrisnir]

it would have if Feinstein had not played silly games. and once Ford named four people-none of whom remembered her claims, what else was there to investigate?

You're kidding me. The FBI can track down all sorts of people who potential would have further knowledge of such acts, and literally dozens came forward when the reopening of the background check was announced who were not contacted back by the FBI.

They hade a completely arbitrary time limit.

They didn't reinterview Kavanaugh after talking to witnesses.

They weren't able to inquire about his drinking habits.

His shady finances were not delved into.

Etc...

Things will continue to come out, papers will be released (that should have been released in their entirety as soon as he was nominated) and the whitewash that this has appeared to be from the get-go will be made all the clearer.

 

[Big Ed]

For what? Being falsely accused? For being a conservative? For serving honorably for nearly thirty years? For supporting women, protecting their rights and advancing their goals?

There may be a few dissenters who would claim Kavanagh lied about his drinking, but there seem to be far more who would refute those claims. One of the many great attributes about America is that before one is convicted of anything, there must be proof - no proof, no conviction; no need to pardon.

 

[TurtleDude]

You're kidding me. The FBI can track down all sorts of people who potential would have further knowledge of such acts, and literally dozens came forward when the reopening of the background check was announced who were not contacted back by the FBI.

They hade a completely arbitrary time limit.

They didn't reinterview Kavanaugh after talking to witnesses.

They weren't able to inquire about his drinking habits.

His shady finances were not delved into.

Etc...

Things will continue to come out, papers will be released (that should have been released in their entirety as soon as he was nominated) and the whitewash that this has appeared to be from the get-go will be made all the clearer.

tell us why a 36 year old claim of juvenile delinquency (at worst) that didn't merit Ford telling anyone-including her parents, or good friends, should even matter? Who is the FBI going to interview?

 

[TurtleDude]

For what? Being falsely accused? For being a conservative? For serving honorably for nearly thirty years? For supporting women, protecting their rights and advancing their goals?

There may be a few dissenters who would claim Kavanagh lied about his drinking, but there seem to be far more who would refute those claims. One of the many great attributes about America is that before one is convicted of anything, there must be proof - no proof, no conviction; no need to pardon.

the opposition to Kavanaugh is mainly based on two things

Trump hate combined with the realization that the Court will be less likely to be friendly to gay rights and abortion

Nothing in 6 background checks and 12 years on the bench gave the butt hurt left any valid grounds to oppose this man for any reasons other than politics. Feinstein knew that so she played games and dropped the Ford nonsense after the hearing in an attempt to get another crack at derailing Kavanaugh

 

[Cordelier]

I don't think you are really in a position to discuss what I understand. you're just mad that a cheap ploy to slander a good man failed and he is on the court. The charges against him had ZERO supporting evidence and should never have been handled this way.

There's a lot more to this guy than meets the eye... if there wasn't, then I'd imagine the Republicans would have been forthcoming with his White House documents. Kind of like the President and his tax returns.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

tell us why a 36 year old claim of juvenile delinquency (at worst) that didn't merit Ford telling anyone-including her parents, or good friends, should even matter? Who is the FBI going to interview?

I have no idea, as every single instance of sexual battery/abuse, to my experience, is unique. Often times victims blame themselves, are so traumatized that they're not sure of exact details and aren't sure of peripheral details, etc...

Sexual battery/attempted rape isn't mere 'juvenile deliquency' and you know that.

You clearly do have any interest in honestly discussing this.

 

[TurtleDude]

There's a lot more to this guy than meets the eye... if there wasn't, then I'd imagine the Republicans would have been forthcoming with his White House documents. Kind of like the President and his tax returns.

its amazing that the FBI couldn't find anything in the prior checks. I get the fact that lots of Clinton fluffers are really upset that the Starr investigation lead to a permanent stain on the Clinton Presidency and many of the fluffers want payback but the fact remains, his work as a white house insider isn't something the haters are entitled to.

do you have any evidence that he has not acted properly as a judge for TWELVE years?

why so much dishonesty=-just come out and say it-you're a partisan Trump hater, and you really don't care for any reason other than trying to prevent Trump from achieving one of the promises he made to people like me-good pro gun conservative justices.

 

[TurtleDude]

I have no idea, as every single instance of sexual battery/abuse, to my experience, is unique. Often times victims blame themselves, are so traumatized that they're not sure of exact details and aren't sure of peripheral details, etc...

Sexual battery/attempted rape isn't mere 'juvenile deliquency' and you know that.

You clearly do have any interest in honestly discussing this.

we don't know what she was doing or what she did-apparently she doesn't either. and you should check the MD laws prior to about 1992.

 

[Parrish]

You're kidding me. The FBI can track down all sorts of people who potential would have further knowledge of such acts, and literally dozens came forward when the reopening of the background check was announced who were not contacted back by the FBI.

They hade a completely arbitrary time limit.

They didn't reinterview Kavanaugh after talking to witnesses.

They weren't able to inquire about his drinking habits.

His shady finances were not delved into.

Etc...

Things will continue to come out, papers will be released (that should have been released in their entirety as soon as he was nominated) and the whitewash that this has appeared to be from the get-go will be made all the clearer.

Absolutely. By limiting the scope of the investigation it only invites those who have witnessed his behavior to come forward. Just think, 1/3 of the male Justices have been accused of being sexual predators.


By not investigating those who contacted the FBI or it's tip line it only perpetuates the claim that it wasn't a true investigation but just a sham.

 

[TurtleDude]

Absolutely. By limiting the scope of the investigation it only invites those who have witnessed his behavior to come forward. Just think, 1/3 of the male Justices have been accused of being sexual predators.

Wow-being accused by leftwing lying hacks-BFD. Lets examine what you have aid

THOSE WHO HAVE WITNESSED his behavior-all three of them came forward and they couldn't FIND A SINGLE OTHER PERSON to support their claims.

who should the FBI interview OTHER THAN EYE WITNESSES?

 

[Cordelier]

its amazing that the FBI couldn't find anything in the prior checks. I get the fact that lots of Clinton fluffers are really upset that the Starr investigation lead to a permanent stain on the Clinton Presidency and many of the fluffers want payback but the fact remains, his work as a white house insider isn't something the haters are entitled to.

do you have any evidence that he has not acted properly as a judge for TWELVE years?

why so much dishonesty=-just come out and say it-you're a partisan Trump hater, and you really don't care for any reason other than trying to prevent Trump from achieving one of the promises he made to people like me-good pro gun conservative justices.

If he was involved in formulating the Bush Administration's detainee policies... either in the White House Counsel's office or as Staff Secretary to the President, and then subsequently ruled on cases challenging those same policies, then not only did he perjure himself during his confirmation hearings, but he was also acting improperly by ruling on cases challenging those same policies that came before the DC Circuit.

 

[vesper]

They won't ever let it go-2 years later they are still engaged in butt hurt whining about the election.

I recommend Boudreaux's Butt paste for their diaper rash.

Latest polls out show Independents fed up with the leftist mob rule the Democrats have allowed to take over their party including 30% of Democrats.


29 days till the election and early voting is already happening. You think they have butt hurt now …….just wait.

 

[csense]

They can never accept that other people can rightfully disagree with them...

Not exactly

They will accept and even encourage disagreement so long as it originates from within their culture by people who hold fundamental beliefs similar to their own. We represent a different culture with a completely different set of fundamental beliefs and like all cultures, it accepts what agrees with it and rejects what disagrees with it, fundamentally speaking. We are not a nation divided by politics; we are a nation divided by culture, and that makes matters much worse.

 

[Grokmaster]

To many the Kvanaugh placement on SCOTUS is not over. If more witnesses come forward and there is sufficient evidence of wrong doing, could Tump just say i pardon him for anything he did wrong in the past and thus keep him on the court?

Seriously? ZERO EVIDENCE; ZERO PROOF;, and now you're deluding Ford(etal) had "better witnesses" than the ones they NAMED FIRST?????!!???


Get a grip...pardon him for what...his girl's B-Ball team winning state?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Hahahha what happened to impeaching trump? Now we are impeaching kavanaugh for imaginary things. My god the left is factually in mass hysteria mode. This thread reminds me of that thing scratching at the door of the court. (I do need to find that video and watch it for amusement)

 

[tosca1]

To many the Kvanaugh placement on SCOTUS is not over. If more witnesses come forward and there is sufficient evidence of wrong doing, could Tump just say i pardon him for anything he did wrong in the past and thus keep him on the court?

Pardon for what?

You think any witnesses that would come forward will be entertained as legitimate at this point?
If there are any - they've all had their chance to come out! That opportunity went, and is now gone.

This is a closed case!

 

[tosca1]

Hahahha what happened to impeaching trump? Now we are impeaching kavanaugh for imaginary things. My god the left is factually in mass hysteria mode. This thread reminds me of that thing scratching at the door of the court. (I do need to find that video and watch it for amusement)

They're psychopaths! Just look at this writer for Colbert - it makes me cringe. Maybe she's not human.



"Whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life."
— "The Late Show" writer Ariel Dumas (deleted tweet)



https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...-im-just-glad-we-ruined-brett-kavanaughs-life


Where's the outrage??? Why isn't Dumas fired for this? We've seen Roseanne fired, right?
I can't help but wish that this so-called, "what goes around, comes around," happens in her lifetime.

I feel sorry for whoever guy she hooks up with. If she can say such thing to someone who hasn't done her anything.....what more to a man who's crossed her?
Men should beware of this woman - there's lots of venom in her system.
I seriously think she's a psychopath.


I won't be surprised if Colbert defends and sticks by her. I think he's a psychopath, too!

Colbert's show has mocked Kavanaugh repeatedly. In July, shortly after Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court was announced, Colbert even criticized the then-nominee's first name, saying it "sounds less like a Supreme Court justice and more like a waiter at a Ruby Tuesday’s."

And, after Kavanaugh and Ford testified at a contentious Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last month, Colbert skewered Kavanaugh and minimized his complaints that his reputation was being dragged unfairly through the mud by politicians and uncritical media reports.

“Save your indignation that finally someone is taking one woman’s sexual assault seriously," Colbert said, responding to Kavanaugh's fiery opening statement at the hearing.

Kavanaugh, at times emotional and teary-eyed, said the accusations against him were false and had "destroyed" his family, leading to several violent death threats against his wife and daughters.

Colbert, though, derided Kavanaugh's at times belligerent testimony as coming with a "well-coiffed head of steam."

 

[TurtleDude]

If he was involved in formulating the Bush Administration's detainee policies... either in the White House Counsel's office or as Staff Secretary to the President, and then subsequently ruled on cases challenging those same policies, then not only did he perjure himself during his confirmation hearings, but he was also acting improperly by ruling on cases challenging those same policies that came before the DC Circuit.

I'll look forward to you demanding Kagan disqualify herself on any issues involving Obama era rules and RBG stepping aside when abortion issues are before the court.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Not exactly

They will accept and even encourage disagreement so long as it originates from within their culture by people who hold fundamental beliefs similar to their own. We represent a different culture with a completely different set of fundamental beliefs and like all cultures, it accepts what agrees with it and rejects what disagrees with it, fundamentally speaking. We are not a nation divided by politics; we are a nation divided by culture, and that makes matters much worse.

I don't believe the divide is cultural. America and Canada have been built on the ability of diverse cultures to come together and enhance everyone's possibilities. Ideology is the great divide and the fanatical belief on the left that their truth is the only truth is what fuels a lot of visceral disagreement.

 

[Cordelier]

I'll look forward to you demanding Kagan disqualify herself on any issues involving Obama era rules and RBG stepping aside when abortion issues are before the court.

How many documents were withheld by the Democrats in both of those nominations?