Coronavirus testing is 'a mess' in the US, report says

[Rogue Valley]

Coronavirus testing is 'a mess' in the US, report says

5/21/20
Coronavirus testing in the United States is disorganized and needs coordination at the national level, infectious disease experts said in a new report released Wednesday. Right now, testing is not accurate enough to use alone to make most decisions, including who should go back to work or to school, the team at the University of Minnesota said. "It's a mess out there," Mike Osterholm, head of the university's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), which issued the report. "Testing is very, very important, but we're not doing the right testing." "The data is really kind of screwed up," Osterholm said. "It's because the public health system is overwhelmed." The report has some specific recommendations for diagnostic tests that check to see if someone is currently infected with coronavirus.

The report also says that antibody tests should be used only with caution. These tests check the blood for evidence of an immune response to the virus, and indicate that someone has been infected for some days or has even cleared an infection. It's not clear if antibody tests are useful for testing of health care workers to determine immune status, according to the report. "We believe that greatly expanding SARSCoV-2 testing is a critical element in our response to COVID-19," the report reads. "For testing to be maximally effective, coordination across the system and across jurisdictions is necessary. Ideally, this requires federal guidance, leadership and support, with strong jurisdictional buy-in at the state and local levels." The report calls on the US Department of Health and Human Services to appoint a panel to oversee and organize testing.

There are no national standards for what kind of tests should be used and in what settings. Right now testing is just a crazy jumbled-up quilt across the nation.

Related: Smart Testing for COVID-19 Virus and Antibodies

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[Helix]

the testing thing really pisses me off. this is something that we could have done more quickly. some companies really stepped up, including one that i work with. we could get back to something more closely resembling normal if we just had more data about exposure. it is happening, but it is happening too slowly, IMO.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

the testing thing really pisses me off. this is something that we could have done more quickly. some companies really stepped up, including one that i work with. we could get back to something more closely resembling normal if we just had more data about exposure. it is happening, but it is happening too slowly, IMO.

This contributes to some of the largest guilt of Trump and his administration. They had ample time to prepare and prioritize testing and PPE, but they were too busy denying it would become a problem and calling it an overblown conspiracy hoax created by democrats.

Had this been properly managed the US would not be having a longer, more damaging shutdown than most other countries. American blood is on Trump's hands, and it's a lot of it.

 

[Indie guy]

This contributes to some of the largest guilt of Trump and his administration. They had ample time to prepare and prioritize testing and PPE, but they were too busy denying it would become a problem and calling it an overblown conspiracy hoax created by democrats.

Had this been properly managed the US would not be having a longer, more damaging shutdown than most other countries. American blood is on Trump's hands, and it's a lot of it.

The blame goes back long before Trump became president.

When SARS broke out in Asia 15-20 years ago there was no follow-up vaccine created. Corona is related to SARS so think about it. If a vaccine had been created after the SARS scare, Corona at the very least could have been lessened.

 

[Rogue Valley]

The blame goes back long before Trump became president.

When SARS broke out in Asia 15-20 years ago there was no follow-up vaccine created. Corona is related to SARS so think about it. If a vaccine had been created after the SARS scare, Corona at the very least could have been lessened.

Disinformation. This is called a novel coronavirus because it is something new that humans have never before been exposed to.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

The blame goes back long before Trump became president.
When SARS broke out in Asia 15-20 years ago there was no follow-up vaccine created. Corona is related to SARS so think about it. If a vaccine had been created after the SARS scare, Corona at the very least could have been lessened.

"The" blame? The only blame to be handed out is to some previous president with Trump deserving none of it? Hard pass on the propaganda push, kid. Trump's deliberate inaction cost a lot of American lives. Leadership matters.

 

[Indie guy]

Disinformation. This is called a novel coronavirus because it is something new that humans have never before been exposed to.

Of course humans have been exposed to it in the form of the original SARS breakout. The CDC even said SARS is a Corona virus.

Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is a viral respiratory illness caused by a coronavirus called SARS-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV). SARS was first reported in Asia in February 2003. The illness spread to more than two dozen countries in North America, South America, Europe, and Asia before the SARS global outbreak of 2003 was contained.

SARS | Basics Factsheet | CDC

A vaccine was later proposed but never materialized. Why? Lack of interest and funding. Pure carelessness in other words. If a vaccine had been developed shortly after the 2003 outbreak the current Corona virus infection rate could have been reduced.

 

[Indie guy]

"The" blame? The only blame to be handed out is to some previous president with Trump deserving none of it? Hard pass on the propaganda push, kid. Trump's deliberate inaction cost a lot of American lives. Leadership matters.

No president is directly to blame. The blame goes to the medical researchers who were in the process of developing a SARS-Corona vaccine over 10 years ago but halted their efforts.

You're just showing your anti-Trump bias, no way around it.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

No president is directly to blame. The blame goes to the medical researchers who were in the process of developing a SARS-Corona vaccine over 10 years ago but halted their efforts.
You're just showing your anti-Trump bias, no way around it.

By claiming the leader of the United States bears some blame for the United States' poor pandemic performance, I'm showing "bias"? Wtf are you showing when you say the only blame is with scientists? Christ you're transparent.

 

[Indie guy]

By claiming the leader of the United States bears some blame for the United States' poor pandemic performance, I'm showing "bias"? Wtf are you showing when you say the only blame is with scientists? Christ you're transparent.

They had ample time to create a vaccine after the 2003 SARS outbreak. The blood is mostly on their hands.

I'm not a huge Trump supporter but let's be real. He had zilch to do with why a SARS-Corona treatment was in the works and then suddenly discarded.

 

[SCrider]

They had ample time to create a vaccine after the 2003 SARS outbreak. The blood is mostly on their hands.

I'm not a huge Trump supporter but let's be real. He had zilch to do with why a SARS-Corona treatment was in the works and then suddenly discarded.

OK, you win Trump has nothing to do with the lack of a vaccine from 2003. Although even if said vaccine was developed it may not have worked on this NOVEL VIRUS.
He does have a lot to do with the lack of testing, PPE's and messed up coordinated efforts to fight this.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

They had ample time to create a vaccine after the 2003 SARS outbreak. The blood is mostly on their hands.

I'm not a huge Trump supporter but let's be real. He had zilch to do with why a SARS-Corona treatment was in the works and then suddenly discarded.

It wasn't the same virus, genius. You can't make a super vaccine to cure all future viruses and yes it's Trump's fault we don't have the testing and PPE infrastructure other countries were able to put together.

 

[noonereal]

Coronavirus testing is 'a mess' in the US, report says

There are no national standards for what kind of tests should be used and in what settings. Right now testing is just a crazy jumbled-up quilt across the nation.

Related: Smart Testing for COVID-19 Virus and Antibodies

Vote for your Democrat candidate for US Senate on November 3[sup]rd[/sup]​

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[Casper]

They had ample time to create a vaccine after the 2003 SARS outbreak. The blood is mostly on their hands.

I'm not a huge Trump supporter but let's be real. He had zilch to do with why a SARS-Corona treatment was in the works and then suddenly discarded.

First off while they are distantly related they also have big differences, a main one being how they are transmitted, SARS was mainly through contact while COVID-19 is mainly through the air. Reminder what is always most dangerous is a virus that is leathal and is transmitted through the air, the only prevention is SD and masks to reduce infection rates. The point is while related, even if you had a SARS vaccine the odds are it would be unlikely to be much protection from COVD-19, it is the same reason the flu vaccine usually contains vaccine against multiple flu strains and even then Millions get it. I would also remind you that there is No reliable treatment for COVID-19, you get real sick they put you into coma in hopes your body can survive the attack, not a very good treatment.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Of course humans have been exposed to it in the form of the original SARS breakout. The CDC even said SARS is a Corona virus.


SARS | Basics Factsheet | CDC

A vaccine was later proposed but never materialized. Why? Lack of interest and funding. Pure carelessness in other words. If a vaccine had been developed shortly after the 2003 outbreak the current Corona virus infection rate could have been reduced.

You don't quite understand. What we have now is SARS-CoV-2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus-2) (COVID-19)

What we had previously was SARS-CoV-1 (the original Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome)

The two coronavirus are different which is why we need a new vaccine.

 

[Rogue Valley]

I'm not a huge Trump supporter but let's be real. He had zilch to do with why a SARS-Corona treatment was in the works and then suddenly discarded.

They are different diseases with a different genome.

A vaccine for SARS-CoV-1 (the original Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) would not be effective for SARS-CoV-2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus-2) (COVID-19).

I strongly suggest that you brush up on the subject matter.

 

[Metric Mouse]

It wasn't the same virus, genius. You can't make a super vaccine to cure all future viruses and yes it's Trump's fault we don't have the testing and PPE infrastructure other countries were able to put together.

True, but there has never been a Corona virus vaccine for any of the strains despite decades of work and multiple spreads. It's odd people think that SARS-CoV-2 will be any different.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

The blame goes back long before Trump became president.

When SARS broke out in Asia 15-20 years ago there was no follow-up vaccine created. Corona is related to SARS so think about it. If a vaccine had been created after the SARS scare, Corona at the very least could have been lessened.

At least one team in the U.S. had started and got to the human trial phase but no one would fund further study

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

" Dr. Peter Hotez says he made the pitch to anyone who would listen. After years of research, his team of scientists in Texas had helped develop a vaccine to protect against a deadly strain of coronavirus. Now they needed money to begin testing it in humans.

But this was 2016. More than a decade had passed since the viral disease known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, had spread through China, killing more than 770 people. That disease, an earlier coronavirus similar to the one now sweeping the globe, was a distant memory by the time Hotez and his team sought funding to test whether their vaccine would work in humans.

"We tried like heck to see if we could get investors or grants to move this into the clinic," said Hotez, co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "But we just could not generate much interest."

 

[Metric Mouse]

They are different diseases with a different genome.

A vaccine for SARS-CoV-1 (the original Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) would not be effective for SARS-CoV-2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus-2) (COVID-19).

I strongly suggest that you brush up on the subject matter.

No, but seeing as humans are zero for 7 on corona virus vaccines, I'm not sure why people think SARS-CoV-2 is going to be significantly different.

 

[Metric Mouse]

They are different diseases with a different genome.

A vaccine for SARS-CoV-1 (the original Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) would not be effective for SARS-CoV-2 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus-2) (COVID-19).

I strongly suggest that you brush up on the subject matter.

No, but seeing as humans are zero for 7 on corona virus vaccines, I'm not sure why people think SARS-CoV-2 is going to be significantly different. Ignorance, most likely.

 

[TomFitz]

Coronavirus testing is 'a mess' in the US, report says

There are no national standards for what kind of tests should be used and in what settings. Right now testing is just a crazy jumbled-up quilt across the nation.

Related: Smart Testing for COVID-19 Virus and Antibodies

Vote for your Democrat candidate for US Senate on November 3[sup]rd[/sup]​

No one is in charge. Didn’t you hear the announcement?

 

[ldsrptcvt]

They had ample time to create a vaccine after the 2003 SARS outbreak. The blood is mostly on their hands.

I'm not a huge Trump supporter but let's be real. He had zilch to do with why a SARS-Corona treatment was in the works and then suddenly discarded.

At least one team in the U.S. had started and got to the human trial phase but no one would fund further study

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

" Dr. Peter Hotez says he made the pitch to anyone who would listen. After years of research, his team of scientists in Texas had helped develop a vaccine to protect against a deadly strain of coronavirus. Now they needed money to begin testing it in humans.

But this was 2016. More than a decade had passed since the viral disease known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, had spread through China, killing more than 770 people. That disease, an earlier coronavirus similar to the one now sweeping the globe, was a distant memory by the time Hotez and his team sought funding to test whether their vaccine would work in humans.

"We tried like heck to see if we could get investors or grants to move this into the clinic," said Hotez, co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "But we just could not generate much interest."

Hmmmm..... 2016...... what president could have put some money into this?

 

[Razoo]

The Trump administration is ill-prepared for a global pandemic
www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/...
Apr 08, 2017 · April 8, 2017 The Trump administration has failed to fill crucial public health positions across the government, leaving the nation ill-prepared to face one of its greatest potential threats:

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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government’s top infectious disease specialist, warned in early 2017 that a “surprise outbreak” would occur during the Trump administration, and he said that more needed to be done to prepare for a pandemic.

Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump’s Presidency — in 2017?
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In 2017, Obama officials briefed Trump's team on dealing with a pandemic like the coronavirus. One Cabinet member reportedly fell asleep, and others didn't want to be there.

 

[Indie guy]

At least one team in the U.S. had started and got to the human trial phase but no one would fund further study

Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

" Dr. Peter Hotez says he made the pitch to anyone who would listen. After years of research, his team of scientists in Texas had helped develop a vaccine to protect against a deadly strain of coronavirus. Now they needed money to begin testing it in humans.

But this was 2016. More than a decade had passed since the viral disease known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, had spread through China, killing more than 770 people. That disease, an earlier coronavirus similar to the one now sweeping the globe, was a distant memory by the time Hotez and his team sought funding to test whether their vaccine would work in humans.

"We tried like heck to see if we could get investors or grants to move this into the clinic," said Hotez, co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "But we just could not generate much interest."

Hmmmm..... 2016...... what president could have put some money into this?

Obama. He was still president in 2016.

 

[gboisjo]

No one is in charge. Didn’t you hear the announcement?

Rudderless!!