Clinton: The Russians will run a third party candidate

[Cardinal]

Nobody here needs an unsolicited defense attorney even for pro bono tireless efforts so let's move along.

Trump will be removed from office by Constitutional means one way or the other and for certain.

I’m closer to accepting that as a remote possibility, but I’m not there yet.

 

[Condor060]

Thanks for confirming what Hillary said.If you like her than she is a Russian plant for sure. There is nothing Trumpists won't do for Putn just like there is nothing Trump won't do for him too.

More idiotic responses on claims I never made. Liberals are the most cowardice people in this country.

 

[Phys251]

Oh noooo, Its the "I know you are but what am I" argument.

More proof how cowardly Democrats really are

Good, good, please don't address the actual issue of the thread, which is that Traitor Tulsi may be compromised by Russia.

 

[Condor060]

Good, good, please don't address the actual issue of the thread, which is that Traitor Tulsi may be compromised by Russia.

I did address it quite clearly.

Isn't that cute. Gabbard exposes Democrats for who they really are like calling out Harris for her scams and all of a sudden shes a Russian plant.
You people are pathetic children.

Its more than obvious anyone who would make such a claim has never spent a day in uniform in the service of others. Democrats are gutless cowards who will make up BS like this just because they got their feewings hurt. Bunch of worthless humans wasting oxygen.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Clinton’s primary fault is that she’s eminently unlikable. But she was never stupid.

Well, okay, keeping a private email server was stupid in light of the fact that Republicans had her under a microscope 24/7, but besides that, she was never stupid.

It is just another continuance of and more examples of all the reasons she lost in 2016, against Trump of all people. And given what we know today that really is an epic failure of Hillary and the DNC of historical proportions.

But now we are treading on what Russia we know is doing an perhaps some added in conspiracy level thinking... her **** show tour of whoever will listen to her continues.

(And I am more harsh on plenty of right leaning lunatics that should be ignored as well.)

 

[iguanaman]

More idiotic responses on claims I never made. Liberals are the most cowardice people in this country.

The word would be "cowardly" and you are projecting again. Given the latest news I can hardly blame you for being scared.

 

[iguanaman]

It is just another continuance of and more examples of all the reasons she lost in 2016, against Trump of all people. And given what we know today that really is an epic failure of Hillary and the DNC of historical proportions.

But now we are treading on what Russia we know is doing an perhaps some added in conspiracy level thinking... her **** show tour of whoever will listen to her continues.

(And I am more harsh on plenty of right leaning lunatics that should be ignored as well.)

Trump had a lot of very professional outside help don't forget that. Hillary also got nearly 3 million more votes than Trump.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

More idiotic responses on claims I never made. Liberals are the most cowardice people in this country.

At least they're not afraid of pronouns and men in dresses.

 

[truthatallcost]

As you said, “...and the far left.” That siphons votes from the Democratic candidate. And really, you don’t need to siphon a lot from that candidate. Trump won by just 80,000 votes in three states. If he pulled that off again, say, with a third party candidate, then there’s no reason that couldn’t happen again.

As for zero support, that’s objectively not true in light of the fact that out of a total of 18 candidates, she still managed to qualify for the debate on Tuesday.

Also, it’s doubtful that trump supporters would vote for her. They like her, but not because they would vote for her.

To reiterate, this is entirely speculation, but as speculation goes, it’s quite plausible.

You're well aware that the media's favorite smear tactic against Gabbard has been to paint her as compromised by Russian ties which don't actually exist, as well as someone the far right adores.

The left wing's choice for President is clearly Sanders, not Gabbard. Ask around the forum, most Sanders supporters barely know who Gabbard is, and many couldn't name 3 facts about her. As someone who is exposed to conservative media on a daily basis, I know that Gabbard has been popular with the right for over a year now. Tucker Carlson has given her a platform to speak on his show, I don't believe his competition at MSNBC or CNN have, or will anytime soon.

Lastly, the DNC has been caught fabricating Russian support for Gabbard in the past, which leads me to believe that HRC's comments are just more disinformation in the attempt to end Gabbard's pursuit of a national presence.

 

[diz]

Seems like Hillary could afford advisers to keep her from looking like an idiot.

 

[Cardinal]

You're well aware that the media's favorite smear tactic against Gabbard has been to paint her as compromised by Russian ties which don't actually exist, as well as someone the far right adores.

The left wing's choice for President is clearly Sanders, not Gabbard. Ask around the forum, most Sanders supporters barely know who Gabbard is, and many couldn't name 3 facts about her. As someone who is exposed to conservative media on a daily basis, I know that Gabbard has been popular with the right for over a year now. Tucker Carlson has given her a platform to speak on his show, I don't believe his competition at MSNBC or CNN have, or will anytime soon.

Lastly, the DNC has been caught fabricating Russian support for Gabbard in the past, which leads me to believe that HRC's comments are just more disinformation in the attempt to end Gabbard's pursuit of a national presence.

I just don't think it's a coincidence that trump supporters, who would never vote for Gabbard in a million years, run to her defense the instant she's criticized or her integrity comes under attack. They have a goofy love affair for Gabbard that lends evidence to the idea that not all is kosher with her.

Oh, and she advances Russian propaganda.

 

[Tangmo]

After Trump is gone USA will need a second national reconstruction to repair, restore, renew.

Putin-Trump Rowers will be dealt with Constitutionally and effectively. Their large numbers in the one organized political party requires the concerted national effort in order to succeed.

The original reconstruction post civil war was sabotaged by the losers using the vehicle of the electoral college and secret societies such as KKK. This will need repair so that it cannot reoccur.

There is no other or better way than a second national reconstruction. First priority is to remake and reestablish the Constitution. Proceed from that and there.

 

[Mach]

Trump supporters have oddly been preaching about Tulsi in various posts...I suppose it's becoming more clear why?

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

On an interview with David Plouffe, Hillary Clinton said this: "I'm not making any predictions but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate. She's the favorite of the Russians.”

Campaign HQ with David Plouffe - Hillary Clinton

Later, when asked to clarify if she was referring to Tulsi Gabbard, Clinton’s spokesperson said, “If the nesting doll fits. This is not some outlandish claim. This is reality.”

This is speculation, of course, but I find this scenario entirely plausible. This is precisely what the Russians would do to guarantee four more years of a world without stability, American leadership, and the furtherment of democracy in global decline.

I don't know why they're attacking Tulsi when nobody is voting for her.

The Russians do like her because of her policies but I doubt they can funnel enough money to her for her to run as a third party candidate.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

On an interview with David Plouffe, Hillary Clinton said this: "I'm not making any predictions but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate. She's the favorite of the Russians.”
Campaign HQ with David Plouffe - Hillary Clinton
Later, when asked to clarify if she was referring to Tulsi Gabbard, Clinton’s spokesperson said, “If the nesting doll fits. This is not some outlandish claim. This is reality.”
This is speculation, of course, but I find this scenario entirely plausible. This is precisely what the Russians would do to guarantee four more years of a world without stability, American leadership, and the furtherment of democracy in global decline.

If it were one our USIC making the assertion, it'd carry more weight.

I have no doubt that there're foreign elements of multiple sorts trying to game our elections.
I wish our Congress and WH were more concerned and more active about it.
The Senate could at least hold votes on the FEC nominees.
But some of the other stronger election protection efforts should also be allowed to go forward.

If this is true, I wonder if Gabbard is a willing accomplice, or just a useful idiot like Trumpco et al.

 

[Cardinal]

If it were one our USIC making the assertion, it'd carry more weight.

I have no doubt that there're foreign elements of multiple sorts trying to game our elections.
I wish our Congress and WH were more concerned and more active about it.
The Senate could at least hold votes on the FEC nominees.
But some of the other stronger election protection efforts should also be allowed to go forward.

If this is true, I wonder if Gabbard is a willing accomplice, or just a useful idiot like Trumpco et al.

Useful idiot. I believe that her irritation at being called a Russian pawn is genuine.

 

[Harshaw]

 

[Cardinal]

Trump supporters have oddly been preaching about Tulsi in various posts...I suppose it's becoming more clear why?

They run to her defense with almost the same zeal that they run to the defense of Trump. It's odd, to say the least.

Also, there's this article from February:

The Russian propaganda machine that tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election is now promoting the presidential aspirations of a controversial Hawaii Democrat who earlier this month declared her intention to run for president in 2020.

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.

Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.

Russia'''s propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard

 

[truthatallcost]

I just don't think it's a coincidence that trump supporters, who would never vote for Gabbard in a million years, run to her defense the instant she's criticized or her integrity comes under attack. They have a goofy love affair for Gabbard that lends evidence to the idea that not all is kosher with her.

Unhinged democrats are literally referring to a military vet with active deployment status overseas as a traitor. Yep, that's certainly going to ruffle the feathers of those right wingers who support our American military service members. In the current bizzaro land that is the Democratic party, Gabbard is a traitor to the country she serves, while Antifa aren't traitors. You have a big problem on your hands Card; Americans rejected the Lefts overt hatred of traditional American values in 2016, yet you guys seem to be doubling down now.

Oh, and she advances Russian propaganda.

Such as ? Give me some examples.

 

[diz]

I don't know why they're attacking Tulsi when nobody is voting for her.

The Russians do like her because of her policies but I doubt they can funnel enough money to her for her to run as a third party candidate.

If I were going to pick the candidate whose policies the Russians would like best it would be Warren or Sanders.

Ban fracking in the US? Putin probably gets a hard-on wishing he could do that.

 

[truthatallcost]

They run to her defense with almost the same zeal that they run to the defense of Trump. It's odd, to say the least.

Also, there's this article from February:



Russia'''s propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard

Discredited-

https://www.debatepolitics.com/poll...vestigate.html?highlight=Tulsi+Gabbard+Russia

 

[Cardinal]

Unhinged democrats are literally referring to a military vet with active deployment status overseas as a traitor. Yep, that's certainly going to ruffle the feathers of those right wingers who support our American military service members. In the current bizzaro land that is the Democratic party, Gabbard is a traitor to the country she serves, while Antifa aren't traitors. You have a big problem on your hands Card; Americans rejected the Lefts overt hatred of traditional American values in 2016, yet you guys seem to be doubling down now.
Such as ? Give me some examples.

You, a trump supporter, are giving a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth defense of a candidate that has become a favorite of the Russian propaganda machine. And you're not the only trump supporter to do this. It's a pattern, and I know I'm not the only one who's noticed the oddity of that.

 

[iguanaman]

Unhinged democrats are literally referring to a military vet with active deployment status overseas as a traitor. Yep, that's certainly going to ruffle the feathers of those right wingers who support our American military service members. In the current bizzaro land that is the Democratic party, Gabbard is a traitor to the country she serves, while Antifa aren't traitors. You have a big problem on your hands Card; Americans rejected the Lefts overt hatred of traditional American values in 2016, yet you guys seem to be doubling down now.



Such as ? Give me some examples.

I don't think many of us think Gabbard is complicit with the Russians any more than Bernie was in 2016. That does not change the fact that they may be using her to help Trump.

Bernie Sanders Voters Helped Trump Win and Here's Proof

 

[Hypothetical]

So the russian plant is outing others as a russian plant? That is rich.

 

[truthatallcost]

You, a trump supporter, are giving a rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth defense of a candidate that has become a favorite of the Russian propaganda machine. And you're not the only trump supporter to do this. It's a pattern, and I know I'm not the only one who's noticed the oddity of that.

No evidence exists to support the claim that Russia backs Gabbard.

I'm not 'foaming at the mouth' Card. I'm the one replying rationally here, while you stated that you were abandoning the thread by page #3.

I voiced support for Bernie Sanders back when the DNC were putting the screws to him in 2016. So what? Everyone deserves a fair shot at running for office. They're supposed to be public servants after all.