CIA controlled global encryption company for decades, says report

[JacksinPA]

CIA controlled global encryption company for decades, says report | US news | The Guardian

Swiss government orders inquiry after revelations Crypto AG was owned and operated by US and German intelligence

The Swiss government has ordered an inquiry into a global encryption company based in Zug following revelations it was owned and controlled for decades by US and German intelligence.

Encryption weaknesses added to products sold by Crypto AG allowed the CIA and its German counterpart, the BND, to eavesdrop on adversaries and allies alike while earning million of dollars from the sales, according the Washington Post and the German public broadcaster ZDF, based on the agencies’ internal histories of the intelligence operation.
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“Foreign governments were paying good money to the US and West Germany for the privilege of having their most secret communications read by at least two (and possibly as many as five or six) foreign countries.” The CIA called it 'the intelligence coup of the century.'

Crypto AG goes back to the 1920s. They manufactured & sold a tactical field crypto unit to the U.S. during WW2 as the M-209, which I owned at one time. See
Crypto AG - Wikipedia

 

[Drawdown]

Nothing like the CIA to keep socialism in America alive and well

 

[danielpalos]

Nothing like the CIA to keep socialism in America alive and well

They were making money with that "public policy"; the right wing only knows how to lose money.
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The Best Tax Cut economics can do.

 

[Mach]

Nothing like the CIA to keep socialism in America alive and well

The thread is about CIA and encryption... not about "socialism", why is your response divorced from reality?

Let me guess. Right wing media has you brainwashed to blame every bad thing on Democrats. I'm not really guessing am I.

 

[ttwtt78640]

They were making money with that "public policy"; the right wing only knows how to lose money.
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
The Best Tax Cut economics can do.

Yep, but don't Forget to mention cinder Blocks and bananas which Both have right-wing Tendencies in our at-will Capitalist employment environment.

 

[Drawdown]

The thread is about CIA and encryption... not about "socialism", why is your response divorced from reality?

Let me guess. Right wing media has you brainwashed to blame every bad thing on Democrats. I'm not really guessing am I.

Government owned for-profit business are socialism at its finest. This thread is about a government-owned for profit business.

 

[danielpalos]

Yep, but don't Forget to mention cinder Blocks and bananas which Both have right-wing Tendencies in our at-will Capitalist employment environment.

nothing but fallacy from the right wing and they want to be taken, really really seriously.

 

[Tigerace117]

CIA controlled global encryption company for decades, says report | US news | The Guardian

Swiss government orders inquiry after revelations Crypto AG was owned and operated by US and German intelligence

The Swiss government has ordered an inquiry into a global encryption company based in Zug following revelations it was owned and controlled for decades by US and German intelligence.

Encryption weaknesses added to products sold by Crypto AG allowed the CIA and its German counterpart, the BND, to eavesdrop on adversaries and allies alike while earning million of dollars from the sales, according the Washington Post and the German public broadcaster ZDF, based on the agencies’ internal histories of the intelligence operation.
============================================================================
“Foreign governments were paying good money to the US and West Germany for the privilege of having their most secret communications read by at least two (and possibly as many as five or six) foreign countries.” The CIA called it 'the intelligence coup of the century.'

Crypto AG goes back to the 1920s. They manufactured & sold a tactical field crypto unit to the U.S. during WW2 as the M-209, which I owned at one time. See
Crypto AG - Wikipedia

So.... in other words the CIA was doing its job and spying.

 

[Mach]

Government owned for-profit business are socialism at its finest. This thread is about a government-owned for profit business.

You still don't appear to know what you're writing. Socialism is typically social ownership...as in we...you and me, own the business., and that's irrelevant.

This is State-owned enterprise, of a tiny segment of the economy. State-owned != socialism.
Every developed nation in the world features some portion of state-owned enterprises, including the U.S., it doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with "socialism".

Just use wikipedia instead of Conservative tree house or Fox news or Rush. You know, use facts/reality instead of propaganda.

One of the pros of a state owned enterprise is even listed as REDUCING political influence (!).

Compared to government bureaucracy, state owned enterprises might be beneficial because they reduce politicians' influence over the service

Oops!

What this is, is a matter of national security choices by the U.S. government, not to interfere in the markets/economies (for good or bad reasons, there are plenty), but to ensure they have the intelligence necessary to ensure U.S. safety.

Whether you agree with that choice or not, has nothing do with socialism, or libs, or dems, it's simply a choice. I suspect if you look hard enough, it's likely predominantly a Republican-led effort. Remember Cheney's 1% doctrine, that's what Republicans tend towards...u.S. national interests even at 1% risk, becomes worth literally going to war against....

This nation needs you to be smarter and learn, and stop watching Fox news. CIA ensuring they have backdoors built into much of the worlds encryption has almost nothing meaningful in any way with ownership of means of production...lol, and everything to do with a savvy way to ensure U.S. intelligence proliferation.

 

[Drawdown]

You still don't appear to know what you're writing. Socialism is typically social ownership...as in we...you and me, own the business., and that's irrelevant.

This is State-owned enterprise, of a tiny segment of the economy. State-owned != socialism.
Every developed nation in the world features some portion of state-owned enterprises, including the U.S., it doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with "socialism".

Just use wikipedia instead of Conservative tree house or Fox news or Rush. You know, use facts/reality instead of propaganda.

One of the pros of a state owned enterprise is even listed as REDUCING political influence (!).

Oops!

What this is, is a matter of national security choices by the U.S. government, not to interfere in the markets/economies (for good or bad reasons, there are plenty), but to ensure they have the intelligence necessary to ensure U.S. safety.

Whether you agree with that choice or not, has nothing do with socialism, or libs, or dems, it's simply a choice. I suspect if you look hard enough, it's likely predominantly a Republican-led effort. Remember Cheney's 1% doctrine, that's what Republicans tend towards...u.S. national interests even at 1% risk, becomes worth literally going to war against....

This nation needs you to be smarter and learn, and stop watching Fox news. CIA ensuring they have backdoors built into much of the worlds encryption has almost nothing meaningful in any way with ownership of means of production...lol, and everything to do with a savvy way to ensure U.S. intelligence proliferation.

Socialism is government ownership. The government through the CIA owns all the information in your computer now via this encryption company.

 

[ecofarm]

Socialism is government ownership. The government through the CIA owns all the information in your computer now via this encryption company.

I have IPR protected stuff on my computer. I'm sure the CIA does not own it.

 

[Aberration]

Socialism is government ownership. The government through the CIA owns all the information in your computer now via this encryption company.

Public ownership is but one aspect of Socialism. It also requires the public control of the means of production. And it’s impossible for anyone or organization to control the manufacture of information.

 

[Mach]

Socialism is government ownership. The government through the CIA owns all the information in your computer now via this encryption company.

You were corrected once, an ddin't learn. What's the point.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Learn something for a change. Stop watching Fox news, it makes people stupid.

CIA being involved in a private company != "Socialism".
Be best.

P.S. Americans are dumb and sold their data to Facebook and Google and Amazon a decade ago, for the pleasure of getting ads in their face. CIA getting into the mix, to keep the U.S. safe, is a drop in the bucket. Good lord man.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The thread is about CIA and encryption... not about "socialism", why is your response divorced from reality?

Let me guess. Right wing media has you brainwashed to blame every bad thing on Democrats. I'm not really guessing am I.

Rush and Sean.

 

[danielpalos]

You still don't appear to know what you're writing. Socialism is typically social ownership...as in we...you and me, own the business., and that's irrelevant.

This is State-owned enterprise, of a tiny segment of the economy. State-owned != socialism.
Every developed nation in the world features some portion of state-owned enterprises, including the U.S., it doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with "socialism".

Just use wikipedia instead of Conservative tree house or Fox news or Rush. You know, use facts/reality instead of propaganda.

One of the pros of a state owned enterprise is even listed as REDUCING political influence (!).

Oops!

What this is, is a matter of national security choices by the U.S. government, not to interfere in the markets/economies (for good or bad reasons, there are plenty), but to ensure they have the intelligence necessary to ensure U.S. safety.

Whether you agree with that choice or not, has nothing do with socialism, or libs, or dems, it's simply a choice. I suspect if you look hard enough, it's likely predominantly a Republican-led effort. Remember Cheney's 1% doctrine, that's what Republicans tend towards...u.S. national interests even at 1% risk, becomes worth literally going to war against....

This nation needs you to be smarter and learn, and stop watching Fox news. CIA ensuring they have backdoors built into much of the worlds encryption has almost nothing meaningful in any way with ownership of means of production...lol, and everything to do with a savvy way to ensure U.S. intelligence proliferation.

The right wing only has a problem with the socialism required for the general welfare not the general warfare.

 

[Fledermaus]

The right wing only has a problem with the socialism required for the general welfare not the general warfare.

Concept stew that has nothing to do with the thread.

 

[danielpalos]

Concept stew that has nothing to do with the thread.

only for the clueless and the Causeless.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Yep, but don't Forget to mention cinder Blocks and bananas which Both have right-wing Tendencies in our at-will Capitalist employment environment.

Bananas are radioactive because: Democrats.
Oh and, voting Democrat turns frogs gay. Alex Jones said so.