Chris Matthews Predicts Trump Could Resign ‘In The Coming Weeks’

[OscarLevant]

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Myself, I don't think Trump's ego will EVER let him resign .[...]

Where was Trump's ego when he folded on so many lawsuits? (hint, he seems to always fold --- bluster at first, and folds later when public attention has moved on)


No, I believe Trump is perfectly capable of resigning, but he will do so in a way that HE perceives saves face.

 

[OscarLevant]

I agree with much you and others have said about Trump not going quietly and having to be dragged out kicking and screaming. And IF McConnell and the other top GOP Senators stay in his corner, the is well what could happen. I feel however, that once the report comes out and all the investigations bear fruit of Trump crimes, even McConnell will see the writing on the wall and desperately want to throw the toxic Trump overboard so they can prepare to salvage something for 2020.

I suspect that in the end McConnell and Trump will make a deal where they use as phony "health problems" scenario to get Trump out sometime in 2019. In return for his resignation Trump and family will get a Pence pardon and the rest of the GOP will act like Russia and the other crimes never happened.

Its a win/win situation as best as could be given the reeking steaming bowl of crap it could otherwise be for all on the Trump/GOP side.

I think his resigning will not be based on "health" ( 'cause of his ego ) and will be based on going down in flames and blaming dems for it all, thus saving face with his base, for THAT is all he cares about. Then he will go on love fest tours, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It won't be health.

 

[SoCal]

Well most legal scholars say you can't arrest a sitting President...

Matthews point was that if he didn't resign, he opens his children up to prosecution. Making a deal by retiring voluntarily could keep them out of jail...

 

[OscarLevant]

There also is the fact that some like that he is president. He not only helps democrats get elected, he is creating huge turnout and getting more people aware. While I am sure many want him removed the fact remains that he has single handedly rebuilt the democratic party.

....inadvertantly.

 

[justabubba]

Matthews point was that if he didn't resign, he opens his children up to prosecution. Making a deal by retiring voluntarily could keep them out of jail...

i have never seen an instance in which tRump placed another's interests above his own

 

[SoCal]

i have never seen an instance in which tRump placed another's interests above his own

Very true, but giving up his own kids?!? That would be a new low even for a lowlife.

Just heard his charity foundation was a scam, what a pathetic man...

 

[NeverTrump]

The Pee tape came out? When? Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.

grab them by the ***** tape :mrgreen:

 

[OscarLevant]

Yes, most on the left blame Hillary's loss on Russia. They over look her laziness to campaign, her inept campaign strategy, peeving off Sanders supporters by jury rigging the Democratic primaries by the DNC and state Democratic party leaders. They ignore, as Hillary herself ignored her blue wall states allowing Trump to win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. They ignore how much she was disliked by independents, more than even Trump. They ignore her hiding from the media, only going on shows very friendly to her like the view while Trump was on almost every morning show daily, at least calling into them. Hilly's campaign was a ho hum campaign, Trump's was full of energy. They ignore the fact Hillary did worst by 3-5 points than Obama did in 2012 in almost ever voting group. There are many more reasons why Hillary lost other than Russia. Almost all she had control over. Russia she didn't. In short, Hillary did much more to cause her own defeat than Russia. The numbers prove that. I just get tired of all the blaming on put on Russia for her defeat. She caused by her lonesome self to make the election close. Close enough that Trump could eek out a victory in the electoral college, that was her doings, her responsibility.

As for Matthews, if Trump walked away today, resigned. I would be happy with that. I'd much rather have Mike Pence as president. I don't like Trump, I didn't vote for him and could never vote for him. I didn't vote for Hillary either, but against both Hillary and Trump. Pence on the other hand, I most certainly could support. With Trump as president, the Republicans weren't even on the playing field for my consideration for this midterm. I voted against him. With Pence in 2020, the GOP would be right back at full strength, back in play. Depending on whom the democrats nominate, even having the advantage as far as my vote is concerned. Certainly with Pence, there would be no third party voting again. I wonder how many of the other third party voters, some 9 million of us would vote in 2020 with no Trump on the ballot.

I blame Hillary for losing in the following way:

1. First, let us not forget she got some 3 million votes more than Trump, so in that sense, she didn't lose, but no one foresaw a fluke of the electoral college putting Trump over the top.


2. In the Jill Stein lawsuit, part of it was to get the provisional ballots that were not counted, counted. Had they allowed her a recount, it's quite conceivable, given that the republican program "Interstate Crosscheck" purged far more voters from reg rolls than Trump won by ( by a factor of 10 in the swing states forcing them to be handed provisional ballots) Hillary would have easily won the swing states and she would be president.


3. Given that Jill was ruled "not having standing" in the suite, well, Hillary did, and she did not insert herself into the suit. So, I blame her for taht, but the question is, why didn't she?

4. The only reason I can determine is that because she pulled some shenanigans in the primary, inserting herself in the Jill Stein suit would have brought the spotlight on her shady actions in the primary.


In short, the reason she is not president is because of her shady actions in the primary caused her not to insert herself in the Stein lawsuit, which was shot down for reasons of lack of standing.

 

[Mr Person]

“But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative. What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids.”

Who's Don Jr.? I never met him.

 

[OscarLevant]

Trump won't resign. His narcissism will not allow such an ignoble epitaph.

If it is clear he will lose an impeachment trial, he will fold and try and find a way to save face. Note that Trump has folded many times on various lawsuits.

 

[tres borrachos]

Unless his mounting troubles disable him from discharging his duties, he will be pressured to resign, and if push comes to shove, they will pressure Pence to execute the 25th amendment, and if there is considerable support form the right in the senate to do that, he just might do it.


But, of course, the knee jerk rebuttal is to suggest that no way the spineless senate would do that. Not currently, no. But, there are signs of cracks appearing on the damn.

They could blow the dam apart and who knows what will happen.

Possibly. I think as we get closer to 2020 we'll find out. It depends on how much the Republican lawmakers value their own jobs.

 

[TurtleDude]

lololol!!!

Chris just got another tingle!!

more than that-he probably had to change his trousers.

 

[markjs]

I'm a Russian lesbian troll. Infecting America with the ghey.

:2rofll:

 

[TurtleDude]

I'm a Russian lesbian troll. Infecting America with the ghey.

I knew it-you were that Russian lady who threw the hammer 700 meters in the Olympic games!!

 

[sangha]

He'll throw everything he can at the wall to see what sticks in order to save himself and maybe Ivanka.

including his kids

 

[jghiretire]

There are some on the left that view his presidency to be illegitimate, however, almost all on the left KNOW that since the election was certified valid the only thing that "could" be done to remove Trump is impeachment and that is simply never going to happen. Even if it were to happen, you would have Pence as president. So those on the left still saying the presidency is illegitimate are fooling themselves. Like it or not, Trump's presidency is VALID and CERTIFIED. He is the 45th president and nothing the left (or anyone else) can do will change that. Pence may be the 46th president should Trump be impeached, but that's it. That's the facts.

Myself, I don't think Trump's ego will EVER let him resign as he lives in a reality where he thinks he is king. Only if an impeachment happens (by both the senate and the house), followed by an orange jump suit, will ever change his mind and that is highly unlikely to ever occur. Trump will not resign, EVER, and that is my prediction.

If there is enough evidence, even the GOP congress will turn to saving themselves. What makes you think that Pence is innocent?? Just think 3rd in line would be........................NANCY PELOSI.

 

[haymarket]

I think his resigning will not be based on "health" ( 'cause of his ego ) and will be based on going down in flames and blaming dems for it all, thus saving face with his base, for THAT is all he cares about. Then he will go on love fest tours, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

It won't be health.

Time will tell.

 

[haymarket]

Possibly. I think as we get closer to 2020 we'll find out. It depends on how much the Republican lawmakers value their own jobs.

The thing the vast vast majority of elected politicians value more than anything is their own ass.

 

[veritas1]

If I had a buck for every time Matthews is wrong, i'd be quite wealthy.

 

[Helix]

He will if forced and is presented with a face saving way for his base.

My feeling is that Trump really doesn't want to be president, never did, actually.

well, he's not much of one, so there's that. however, he won't step down. if he were to be impeached and convicted (which is also exceptionally unlikely to happen,) my guess is that they'd have to drag him out in handcuffs.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

including his kids

I've known about Trump for 30+ years. Heard him speak dozens of times, twice in person.

Trump loves 2 things:

1) Donald Trump

2) Donald Trump's wealth.

He will throw his family under the bus in a NY minute if it means protecting himself and his money. I am SHOCKED so many millions of people in this country are so gullible and ignorant to believe Trump is honest, and looking out for the little guy. They are in for a very rude awakening. Quite honestly his family is in for a rude awakening too..

 

[sangha]

I've known about Trump for 30+ years. Heard him speak dozens of times, twice in person.

Trump loves 2 things:

1) Donald Trump

2) Donald Trump's wealth.

He will throw his family under the bus in a NY minute if it means protecting himself and his money. I am SHOCKED so many millions of people in this country are so gullible and ignorant to believe Trump is honest, and looking out for the little guy. They are in for a very rude awakening. Quite honestly his family is in for a rude awakening too..

One of the many Trump Dirty Little Secrets is that they do not build anymore. They make money in real estate by selling their name to brand buildings and real estate mgmt - ie they are in charge of the janitors, maintenance, doormen, etc

After e is impeached and convicted, no building is going to want that name on their building or his employess running their services.

 

[pilot16]

Trump has no out nor does Trump want an out. Which leaves Trump in Putin's bag. The two of 'em see a mutual gain by it.

That should terrify us and every other western nation with an election looming.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

After e is impeached and convicted, no building is going to want that name on their building or his employess running their services.

Already happening in NYC... A few have already removed his name from their buildings.

 

[veritas1]

Trump will not be removed except by losing an election. Sorry to wake y'all up from your wet dreams.