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Child Support Payback

Bodhisattva said:
Me and Vegas/...
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And the Swedish Youth Party - but they seem to be just as interested in legalizing necrophilia and incest - so they might not be able to devote enough time to the two of you. (unless you are siblings interested in necrophilia and knock up a corpse)
 
year2late said:
And the Swedish Youth Party - but they seem to be just as interested in legalizing necrophilia and incest - so they might not be able to devote enough time to the two of you. (unless you are siblings interested in necrophilia and knock up a corpse)
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They laughed at MLK jr too
 
Bodhisattva said:
Give some examples of civil rights that are not equal.



We sure do... Natural Rights.

Me and Vegas/...
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Natural rights are bull****.

And to quote Vegas’ most common reply, “Thanks far your opinion.”
 
year2late said:
And the Swedish Youth Party - but they seem to be just as interested in legalizing necrophilia and incest - so they might not be able to devote enough time to the two of you. (unless you are siblings interested in necrophilia and knock up a corpse)
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That is pretty offensive...
 
Removable Mind said:
Natural rights are bull****.

And to quote Vegas’ most common reply, “Thanks far your opinion.”
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Besides the fact that youbsaid men have no rights yet they do...I can school you on Hobbes and Locke all day long but most glaringly... you provided no examples.
 
Bodhisattva said:
That is pretty offensive...
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Well the Swedish Youth Party is what Vegas used to show rising support for the cause. And legalizing necrophilia and incest are both causes they wholeheartedly support.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Besides the fact that youbsaid men have no rights yet they do...I can school you on Hobbes and Locke all day long but most glaringly... you provided no examples.
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Oh please waste your time on explaining Hobbes and Locke. And do it all day long. That makes for great fairy tales stories. But be aware, I don’t care about 17th century philosophers.

What I do care about is:

What I do care about is the current state of our nation’s rule of law. I care about our 21st century US Constitution Bill of Rights impacts on our society. I care about the current Civil Rights Act. I care about individual State Family Codes. I care about individual State Constitutions.

I’ll be happy to give you a tidbit, which of course won’t resonate with men who believe that they are the poster children for “Inequality in America”.

The 14th Amendment that guarantees equal protection does not cover sex discrimination. In 2011, now-deceased Justice Antonin Scalia made clear the Constitution does "not require discrimination on the basis of sex. The only issue is whether it prohibits it. It doesn't.”

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has said if she could choose any amendment, it would be equal rights for women because “legislation can be repealed. It can be altered."
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True “equal rights for women” (aka “The Equal Rights Amendment”) has never been passed and ratified in America. It has been before Congress for nearly a century - “and many times”. It’s repeatedly failed.

And you should personally know of other examples of inequalities that still exists in the 21st century. You’re educated, and a school teacher. You should be vividly aware of every kind/type of inequalities that exists in every form.
 
Removable Mind said:
Oh please waste your time on explaining Hobbes and Locke. And do it all day long. That makes for great fairy tales stories. But be aware, I don’t care about 17th century philosophers.

What I do care about is:

What I do care about is the current state of our nation’s rule of law. I care about our 21st century US Constitution Bill of Rights impacts on our society. I care about the current Civil Rights Act. I care about individual State Family Codes. I care about individual State Constitutions.

I’ll be happy to give you a tidbit, which of course won’t resonate with men who believe that they are the poster children for “Inequality in America”.



True “equal rights for women” (aka “The Equal Rights Amendment”) has never been passed and ratified in America. It has been before Congress for nearly a century - “and many times”. It’s repeatedly failed.

And you should personally know of other examples of inequalities that still exists in the 21st century. You’re educated, and a school teacher. You should be vividly aware of every kind/type of inequalities that exists in every form.
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Because there are currently some inequalities in the law does not mean we should approve of ALL inequalities in the law
 
Removable Mind said:
So again you refuse to answer a sincere, perfectly legitimate question. Your refusal to answer that very simple, but extremely important question, speaks volumes.
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As if gays didnt remain in the closet for hundreds of years to protect themselves :doh

Because apparently gay men and women had more sense to protect themselves from all sorts of harm, including financial harm being rejected in professions, than some males in today's society.

It seems some men in our society prefer to play the victim card, all while choosing to give up the right they're crying about because they decide to choose sex over their own best interests.
 
Removable Mind said:
Uh huh. I believe it’s obvious why you won’t answers. There’s nothing remotely insulting about my question.
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There is no civil right to have sex without consequences :lamo

But if there was, now men are equal with women, who have never been able to.

:ind::2party::cheers:
 
Removable Mind said:
Actually civil rights aren’t always equal.
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If it was a legitimate civil rights issue, they wouldnt still have child support laws. They would have been overturned as 'unequal'.

And yet...they're not.

The state has no interest in children that do not exist. And men dont have to pay for children that dont exist.

Women do pay....they pay with their health, with sacrifices in their lives, with $$$, even with their lives...all possible in cases of miscarriage (medical expenses), abortion (costs $$$) , pregnancy (medical expenses)....All before there is a child....and the state doesnt care enough to make that equal by making men share those expenses.

So yes it's not equal...and it's all in favor of men having the advantages, not women.
 
Lursa said:
As if gays didnt remain in the closet for hundreds of years to protect themselves :doh

Because apparently gay men and women had more sense to protect themselves from all sorts of harm, including financial harm being rejected in professions, than some males in today's society.

It seems some men in our society prefer to play the victim card, all while choosing to give up the right they're crying about because they decide to choose sex over their own best interests.
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It’s totally mind boggling to me that any man, who clearly knows the current consequences of not going to any length to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, would truly believe that it’s an insult to ask men the following question:

“Until (if or when) there is any Constitutional/Legislative changes that will enable men to opt out of parenthood and all financial responsibilities of an unwanted pregnancies. What can men do to prevent and or priotect themselves from becoming a parent against - if the woman chooses the legal option not to abort - the State “must” statutorily mandate them to pay child support for nearly 2 decades?”

I find the “civil rights arguments” to be perplexing. There’s no component of the Civil Rights Bill that you’ll find any reference to reproductive rights.

Claims that “The 14th Amendment, Equal Protection Clause” is the civil instrument that a SC decision will finally give life to the “Financial Opt Out for Men” based on the Equal Protection Clause is bewildering. Thus far no member has yet presented any “reasonable evidence” as to why they place their faith in the decision coming out of the EPC.

Few even remotely understand the various measures used by the SC to come to a decision related to the EPC.

I opine that such a profound right for men can only come from a newly ratified Amendment.
 
year2late said:
Well the Swedish Youth Party is what Vegas used to show rising support for the cause. And legalizing necrophilia and incest are both causes they wholeheartedly support.
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You indicated me in that...
 
Removable Mind said:
Oh please waste your time on explaining Hobbes and Locke. And do it all day long. That makes for great fairy tales stories. But be aware, I don’t care about 17th century philosophers.

What I do care about is:

What I do care about is the current state of our nation’s rule of law. I care about our 21st century US Constitution Bill of Rights impacts on our society. I care about the current Civil Rights Act. I care about individual State Family Codes. I care about individual State Constitutions.

I’ll be happy to give you a tidbit, which of course won’t resonate with men who believe that they are the poster children for “Inequality in America”.



True “equal rights for women” (aka “The Equal Rights Amendment”) has never been passed and ratified in America. It has been before Congress for nearly a century - “and many times”. It’s repeatedly failed.

And you should personally know of other examples of inequalities that still exists in the 21st century. You’re educated, and a school teacher. You should be vividly aware of every kind/type of inequalities that exists in every form.
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You said that men do not have rights... they do. The fact that you don't care about them does not negate them.
 
Bodhisattva said:
You said that men do not have rights... they do. The fact that you don't care about them does not negate them.
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You're playing games, Bodhi. Copy and paste any post that I've made in which I claim "men have no rights." All born citizens, regardless of age have rights.

But now that you've claimed that you're going to school me on rights....What reproductive rights to men have?
 
Removable Mind said:
You're playing games, Bodhi. Copy and paste any post that I've made in which I claim "men have no rights." All born citizens, regardless of age have rights.

But now that you've claimed that you're going to school me on rights....What reproductive rights to men have?
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My claim was that you said that men do not have reproductive rights... not "no rights".

I countered with the following:

vegas giants said:
Men. I know you hate us but we have rights too
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Removable Mind said:
No reproductive rights.
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Bodhisattva said:
We sure do... Natural Rights.
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You then said Natural Rights were stupid. I said that was irrelevant... men do have Reproductive Rights. In the State of Nature we have Natural Rights... I made my point. It is not that big a deal but you want to not be wrong on anything apparently.
 
Removable Mind said:
It’s totally mind boggling to me that any man, who clearly knows the current consequences of not going to any length to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, would truly believe that it’s an insult to ask men the following question:

“Until (if or when) there is any Constitutional/Legislative changes that will enable men to opt out of parenthood and all financial responsibilities of an unwanted pregnancies. What can men do to prevent and or priotect themselves from becoming a parent against - if the woman chooses the legal option not to abort - the State “must” statutorily mandate them to pay child support for nearly 2 decades?”

I find the “civil rights arguments” to be perplexing. There’s no component of the Civil Rights Bill that you’ll find any reference to reproductive rights.

Claims that “The 14th Amendment, Equal Protection Clause” is the civil instrument that a SC decision will finally give life to the “Financial Opt Out for Men” based on the Equal Protection Clause is bewildering. Thus far no member has yet presented any “reasonable evidence” as to why they place their faith in the decision coming out of the EPC.

Few even remotely understand the various measures used by the SC to come to a decision related to the EPC.

I opine that such a profound right for men can only come from a newly ratified Amendment.
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It is incredibly insulting for you to simply accept civil rights violations and ask men to find a way to put up with it
 
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