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Celebrating George Michael while Totally not Getting it

The butthurt is strong in this thread.
 
Projecting again? Tsk tsk tsk

Well, feel free to keep the thread alive. Maybe we can find something worthwhile to discuss. Condom use among the promiscuous would be a good place to start.

Why do you believe so many young gay men refuse to slip one on or even discuss it while promoting the joy of random sex?
 
Well, feel free to keep the thread alive. Maybe we can find something worthwhile to discuss. Condom use among the promiscuous would be a good place to start.

Why do you believe so many young gay men refuse to slip one on or even discuss it while promoting the joy of random sex?
Yup, once you have the integrity to admit that you got it wrong about the article, I'm happy to move onto condom use.

I won't discuss condoms in the Mickey Mouse way that you have gone on to state it though. After all, it would be good to have an adult conversation with you.
 
Yup, once you have the integrity to admit that you got it wrong about the article, I'm happy to move onto condom use.
My review of the article was spot on: promote the concept that nothing is wrong with random sex without pointing out the need for doing it safely. That was a huge failure on the author's part.

I won't discuss condoms in the Mickey Mouse way that you have gone on to state it though. After all, it would be good to have an adult conversation with you.
Disney World is ------> that way
 
Well, feel free to keep the thread alive. Maybe we can find something worthwhile to discuss. Condom use among the promiscuous would be a good place to start.
That wouldn't make any sense. The article was remembering a Persinger that died. Talking about condoms in it would have made admit as much sense as talking about veganism.

Why do you believe so many young gay men refuse to slip one on or even discuss it while promoting the joy of random sex?
my guess, many of these young gay men attention being honest with themselves. They date women and participate in hook up culture so they don't raise suspicion. That's one theory.
Another one is that parents and pastors in an effort to "scare them straight" have convinced them that homosexuality will cause them to get aids and die. So why worry about it if it is inevitable. Another theory is that youth are generally wreckless. Same reason there are ten pregnancies . Another theory is that there is absolutely no effort to educate them. The whole sexual education curriculum completely over looks it. The only time you ever hear about the high rate of infection is from pastors and others who are trying to scare gay youth straight. It isn't used as a warning or a simple fact to educate gay youth to the danger of promiscuous sex with the same sex. You've witnessed this first hand when you get on your little rants about HIV. When you get on your soap box like in this thread the posters you know to be gay, what do they do? You ever stop to wonder why? Or do you just think they are being stupid pc ****s?

Those are a handful of reasons why we see a high rate of HIV infections among homosexual men in our culture.
 
That wouldn't make any sense. The article was remembering a Persinger that died. Talking about condoms in it would have made admit as much sense as talking about veganism.
Well, if the article was celebrating Michael's love of Italian sausage (the processed kind), then a brief mention of the benefits of veganism may indeed be apt. A good example of that was when articles were written after James Gandolfini's early death. The pieces celebrated the man, and his living large, but they also pointed out his poor habits, with suggestions on how we can avoid the same fate.

my guess, many of these young gay men attention being honest with themselves. They date women and participate in hook up culture so they don't raise suspicion. That's one theory.
Another one is that parents and pastors in an effort to "scare them straight" have convinced them that homosexuality will cause them to get aids and die. So why worry about it if it is inevitable. Another theory is that youth are generally wreckless. Same reason there are ten pregnancies . Another theory is that there is absolutely no effort to educate them. The whole sexual education curriculum completely over looks it. The only time you ever hear about the high rate of infection is from pastors and others who are trying to scare gay youth straight. It isn't used as a warning or a simple fact to educate gay youth to the danger of promiscuous sex with the same sex. You've witnessed this first hand when you get on your little rants about HIV. When you get on your soap box like in this thread the posters you know to be gay, what do they do? You ever stop to wonder why? Or do you just think they are being stupid pc ****s?

Those are a handful of reasons why we see a high rate of HIV infections among homosexual men in our culture.
I personally hate condoms. As a result, I have focused on monogamous relationships and take my chances whenever starting a new a new one. However, if I did the random thing, I would strap on, whether I liked them or not. I'm rather surprised that so many people push the envelope, both in randoms and not using condoms.

Besides the obvious risks associated with disease, the random lifestyle also has a host of other drawbacks. But, for me, the fear of catching something every time I slept with someone new was enough to limit my desire to do so. Another factor for me, at least, is that one-shot sex kind of sucks.
 
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Well, if the article was celebrating Michael's love of Italian sausage (the processed kind), then a brief mention of the benefits of veganism may indeed be apt.
It would not be. It would be irritating and pointless.

A good example of that was when articles were written after James Gandolfini's early death. The pieces celebrated the man, and his living large, but they also pointed out his poor habits, with suggestions on how we can avoid the same fate.
George Michael's death didn't have anything to do with his sexuality. So that's a ****ty example.


I personally hate condoms. As a result, I have focused on monogamous relationships and take my chances whenever starting a new a new one. However, if I did the random thing, I would strap on, whether I liked them or not. I'm rather surprised that so many people push the envelope, both in randoms and not using condoms.

Besides the obvious risks associated with disease, the random lifestyle also has a host of other drawbacks. But, for me, the fear of catching something every time I slept with someone new was enough to limit my desire to do so. Another factor for me, at least, is that one-shot sex kind of sucks.

I wouldn't know, I've never done the one night stand thing. The idea of doing something so intimate with a person I've never met seemed unappealing.
 
It would not be. It would be irritating and pointless.

George Michael's death didn't have anything to do with his sexuality. So that's a ****ty example.

You don't know that. His drug use and hang ups with acceptance may have been connected. In fact, I bet they were.




I wouldn't know, I've never done the one night stand thing. The idea of doing something so intimate with a person I've never met seemed unappealing.
We at least agree on that.
 
You don't know that.
Well heartfailure isn't a symptom of homosexuality or promiscuity, so yes I do.
His drug use and hang ups with acceptance may have been connected. In fact, I bet they were.
I'd bet his promiscuity was just another symptom of what made him a drug addict. Likely something associated with being famous more than being gay.





We at least agree on that.[/QUOTE]
 
Well heartfailure isn't a symptom of homosexuality or promiscuity, so yes I do.
No, but it most def can be a result of drug abuse, be it coke, opiates or both.

I'd bet his promiscuity was just another symptom of what made him a drug addict. Likely something associated with being famous more than being gay.
Who knows? Being gay is not a problem, IMO. But, how someone handles being gay most certainly can be.
 
Homophobia doesn't help the problem, and that includes stupid threads like this.

You weren't invited, but yet you came in anyway. Thread must have a magnetic properties. :roll:

How about this? Michael made his bones in the 80's by fooling adoring women into thinking he was straight. Lots of guilt there, IMO. Guilt can **** with your head. That is for sure.
 
No, but it most def can be a result of drug abuse, be it coke, opiates or both.
Yes, i agree, heartfailure is a result of drug abuse. Drug abuse isn't a symptom of homosexuality or promiscuity.


Who knows? Being gay is not a problem, IMO. But, how someone handles being gay most certainly can be.
Well people that experience it know. Accepting homosexuality was difficult, but not accepting it is destructive. Seems the fellow accepted it but he lived in a different time than I do. So I dint know if he ever could.
 
You weren't invited, but yet you came in anyway. Thread must have a magnetic properties. :roll:

How about this? Michael made his bones in the 80's by fooling adoring women into thinking he was straight. Lots of guilt there, IMO. Guilt can **** with your head. That is for sure.

He messed around with a lot of women?
 
He messed around with a lot of women?

No, his faux image was selling sex appeal to adoring women. Many cried when they found out he was gay. I still remember that time. It was weird.
 
You weren't invited, but yet you came in anyway. Thread must have a magnetic properties. :roll:

How about this? Michael made his bones in the 80's by fooling adoring women into thinking he was straight. Lots of guilt there, IMO. Guilt can **** with your head. That is for sure.

Oh, we need an invitation to join threads now? I hadn't read that in the DP rules.
 
No, his faux image was selling sex appeal to adoring women. Many cried when they found out he was gay. I still remember that time. It was weird.
Feeling guilt for being liked? That isn't likely. I don't feel guilty of women like me or find me attractive. Would you feel guilty of a homosexual person the same sex as you was attracted to you?
 
No, his faux image was selling sex appeal to adoring women. Many cried when they found out he was gay. I still remember that time. It was weird.

Why the **** are they crying? He wasn't going to get with them anyways.
 
Why the **** are they crying? He wasn't going to get with them anyways.

I don't think that is why. Some people are oddly interested in the lives of famous people. They may have wanted to see him with this woman or that woman. I wouldn't feel guilty for that.
 
I don't think that is why. Some people are oddly interested in the lives of famous people. They may have wanted to see him with this woman or that woman. I wouldn't feel guilty for that.

I believe that maybe what it was, and the author sort of alludes to this in the piece linked in the op, is that because of this image thing--hell, for all we know it was even in his record contract, knowing how those POS companies operate--George Michael could not come out right away. And, that would suck. That is what I think messed with his head.

GM does not strike me as someone who would care if people knew he was gay, at least not on his own if his livelihood was not involved in the equation.
 
Oh, we need an invitation to join threads now? I hadn't read that in the DP rules.

Well, since you bitched about the thread, I had to wonder why you decided to join us.
 
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