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Cancel Culture: Goya Foods CEO calls boycott threats a 'suppression of speech'

Schism said:
It's political, it's right out of the Maoist playbook, and you support it. You just don't like the behavior's origins to be identified.

But they are what they are: Communist Struggle Sessions.

Did you think Pelosi dressing up in an African costume and kneeling before the cameras was genuine? Or white people apologizing for being born with skin of a certain pigment?

The Communist Chinese gave birth to the very logic that you carry with you today; that public shaming and humiliation by mobs is necessary to build an authoritarian nation-state with willing participants. Hong Kong has fallen. Democracy has been tamped down. You don't even realize that you're breeding it for them.

That's genius right there.
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Boycotts have been around since long before Mao was even born..
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yes, this is only about boycotts. Try and keep up.
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No, it's not. It's purely political. It's part of the reeducation process. This isn't about unfair labor practices, unfair wages, price fixing, or even unscrupulous purchasing and procurement practices.

No, this is about a person's support for a politician you don't approve of, and he needs to be taught a lesson. He needs to be publicly humiliated, shamed, and have his livelihood taken away, along with the thousands of workers he employs.

You're going make him pay, from the comfort and anonymity of your mom's basement, hiding behind a made up internet name.

You should look it up since you obviously don't understand the subject matter. You called me a "Bolshevik like you" which demonstrates your ignorance, comrade.

I love it when someone exposes their queen, then declares, I have you surrounded!
 
Threegoofs said:
All these Trumpanzees whining about boycotts hurting freedom are probably the same ones who were smashing up Keurig machines two years ago.


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When right-wingers boycott a business it's acceptable. At least that's what I'm getting out of all this.
 
Schism said:
No, it's not. It's purely political. It's part of the reeducation process. This isn't about unfair labor practices, unfair wages, price fixing, or even unscrupulous purchasing and procurement practices.

No, this is about a person's support for a politician you don't approve of, and he needs to be taught a lesson. He needs to be publicly humiliated, shamed, and have his livelihood taken away, along with the thousands of workers he employs.

You're going make him pay, from the comfort and anonymity of your mom's basement, hiding behind a made up internet name.

You should look it up since you obviously don't understand the subject matter. You called me a "Bolshevik like you" which demonstrates your ignorance, comrade.

I love it when someone exposes their queen, then declares, I have you surrounded!
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:lamo

Awww. Poor little white wingers. Why are you all such victims?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but there is no disagreement with the product (canned beans?) whatsoever - there is a disagreement with the product maker's political opinions. How dare someone who makes charitable donations to food banks praise the POTUS in public? ;)
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Look, you and I both know Trump has treated ethnic minorities terribly.
Regardless of the fact that Unanue has donated generously to poor people, he has made a mistake in his judgment of the current president, at least as far as his own consumer target demographic is concerned.
Last night, Telemundo and Univision ran the Goya-Trump story. It was not their lead item, but they gave it about two minutes.
The vast majority boycotting Goya are hispanics, and there's nothing Trumplandia can do to change that fact.
It is NOT actually an overwhelming majority, because about a third of US hispanics side with Goya, it seems.

I have a couple of Goya products in my own home. There is no point in throwing them out because that will not affect Mr. Unanue.
But if he's doubling down on his support for Trump, it will affect my decision to purchase his products in the future because I think Trump's bigotry is unforgivable. But I don't matter, Goya's main consumer demographic does.

I mentioned Henry Ford earlier. Another member could not understand the analogy, simple as it was.
Ford was a raging antisemite and owned his very own newspaper in which he published an enormous amount of antisemite material, and he hosted the publishing of a book that has fueled the hatred of both Hitler and much of the islamic Middle East, where in some countries it is still regarded as a reference textbook despite the fact that it is a total fraud.
Jews refused to buy his automobiles until he withdrew publication of antisemite material and apologized.

The objective is ridiculously simple: If you support hate and bigotry, a lot of people will not put money in your pockets, no matter how good your product or service is.

It's not free speech or censorship.
It's "If you act like a hateful asshole, you will get slapped upside the head."
And obviously since most can't actually do that, they do it with their wallets instead.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Look, you and I both know Trump has treated ethnic minorities terribly.
Regardless of the fact that Unanue has donated generously to poor people, he has made a mistake in his judgment of the current president, at least as far as his own consumer target demographic is concerned.
Last night, Telemundo and Univision ran the Goya-Trump story. It was not their lead item, but they gave it about two minutes.
The vast majority boycotting Goya are hispanics, and there's nothing Trumplandia can do to change that fact.
It is NOT actually an overwhelming majority, because about a third of US hispanics side with Goya, it seems.

I have a couple of Goya products in my own home. There is no point in throwing them out because that will not affect Mr. Unanue.
But if he's doubling down on his support for Trump, it will affect my decision to purchase his products in the future because I think Trump's bigotry is unforgivable. But I don't matter, Goya's main consumer demographic does.

I mentioned Henry Ford earlier. Another member could not understand the analogy, simple as it was.
Ford was a raging antisemite and owned his very own newspaper in which he published an enormous amount of antisemite material, and he hosted the publishing of a book that has fueled the hatred of both Hitler and much of the islamic Middle East, where in some countries it is still regarded as a reference textbook despite the fact that it is a total fraud.
Jews refused to buy his automobiles until he withdrew publication of antisemite material and apologized.

The objective is ridiculously simple: If you support hate and bigotry, a lot of people will not put money in your pockets, no matter how good your product or service is.

It's not free speech or censorship.
It's "If you act like a hateful asshole, you will get slapped upside the head."
And obviously since most can't actually do that, they do it with their wallets instead.
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Time will tell whether the free media publicity given the Goya brand results in more or less sales. Chick-fil-a seems to have survived. ;)
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Look, you and I both know Trump has treated ethnic minorities terribly.
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No he hasn't.

Regardless of the fact that Unanue has donated generously to poor people, he has made a mistake in his judgment of the current president, at least as far as his own consumer target demographic is concerned.
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Not unless they're here illegally.

Last night, Telemundo and Univision ran the Goya-Trump story. It was not their lead item, but they gave it about two minutes.
The vast majority boycotting Goya are hispanics, and there's nothing Trumplandia can do to change that fact.
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Link to support: "The vast majority boycotting Goya are hispanics" _ I assert that you just made that up.

Prove it.

It is NOT actually an overwhelming majority, because about a third of US hispanics side with Goya, it seems.
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Well, then.

I have a couple of Goya products in my own home. There is no point in throwing them out because that will not affect Mr. Unanue.
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Nonsense! You're obligated NOT to eat those politically incorrect beans! It's an affront to all things civil!

But if he's doubling down on his support for Trump, it will affect my decision to purchase his products in the future because I think Trump's bigotry is unforgivable. But I don't matter, Goya's main consumer demographic does.
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You CANNOT eat those beans! EVER!

I mentioned Henry Ford earlier. Another member could not understand the analogy, simple as it was.
Ford was a raging antisemite and owned his very own newspaper in which he published an enormous amount of antisemite material, and he hosted the publishing of a book that has fueled the hatred of both Hitler and much of the islamic Middle East, where in some countries it is still regarded as a reference textbook despite the fact that it is a total fraud.
Jews refused to buy his automobiles until he withdrew publication of antisemite material and apologized.
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And you allow that nazi company to continue operating?

The objective is ridiculously simple: If you support hate and bigotry, a lot of people will not put money in your pockets, no matter how good your product or service is.
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Who is demonstrating hate and bigotry?

It's not free speech or censorship.
It's "If you act like a hateful asshole, you will get slapped upside the head."
And obviously since most can't actually do that, they do it with their wallets instead.
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Yes, violence. That comes after the Communist Maoist Struggle Sessions. Along with the disappearances.

You're doing a great job.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Time will tell whether the free media publicity given the Goya brand results in more or less sales. Chick-fil-a seems to have survived. ;)
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Well, I for one see no reason to buy it anymore. There are plenty of other brands that are equivalent.

Just another reason to buy local- La Preferida is my go to.

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Schism said:
Sure. :lol:

I love how your name is the polar opposite of your remarks.
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How many posts about my name do you think its going to take to convince everyone you're not obsessed and insecure over it? :shrug:
 
Schism said:
No he hasn't.



Not unless they're here illegally.



Link to support: "The vast majority boycotting Goya are hispanics" _ I assert that you just made that up.

Prove it.



Well, then.



Nonsense! You're obligated NOT to eat those politically incorrect beans! It's an affront to all things civil!



You CANNOT eat those beans! EVER!



And you allow that nazi company to continue operating?



Who is demonstrating hate and bigotry?



Yes, violence. That comes after the Communist Maoist Struggle Sessions. Along with the disappearances.

You're doing a great job.
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He did do a great job. You are just mad because there is not one thing you can do about consumers voting with their pocketbook unless you want to get rid of capitalism. Americans have every right to decide which companies they wish to support.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Time will tell whether the free media publicity given the Goya brand results in more or less sales. Chick-fil-a seems to have survived. ;)
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Wall Street Journal

Chick-fil-A Inc. said it would limit its focus on charitable giving starting next year to education, homelessness and hunger, following criticism of donations to groups that had a history of opposing same-sex marriage or were criticized as antigay for other reasons.
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I honestly do not believe the Goya kerfuffle has much to do with political parties.
Lots of hispanics are conservative, particularly the hispanic evangelical segment of the population, which IS a pretty big slice of the demographic. The other large conservative demographic is the Cuban expat population, a reliable wellspring of Trump support. But you have to also compare to the Chicano segment, which is also significant. Chicanos are NOT conservatives, most of them are either middle of the road or center left, and a handful are far left.

It has almost everything to do with this one person, Trump.
If Trump had wound up as President of the United States Chamber of Commerce instead, I bet you would still see some kind of similar boycotts happening, perhaps on a smaller scale, but Trump's personality flaws and his bigotry would surely trigger a revolt against his position at the Chamber.
 
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iguanaman said:
He did do a great job. You are just mad because there is not one thing you can do about consumers voting with their pocketbook unless you want to get rid of capitalism. Americans have every right to decide which companies they wish to support.
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Sure they do. It's just that in this instance, the reason is political.

It's the communist-Maoist tactic of public shaming and reeducation.

Don't be embarrassed by it; embrace it for what it is. Enjoy the rush of power.
 
Threegoofs said:
Well, I for one see no reason to buy it anymore. There are plenty of other brands that are equivalent.

Just another reason to buy local- La Preferida is my go to.

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We frequent a tiny mom and pop butcher shop about three miles away which is Mexican owned, and more often than not we buy bean products there because he packages his own pre-cooked stuff. The quality of his meats, veggies and everything else is a cut above, and when the recent meat shortages were happening, he had plenty.
We've pretty much stopped buying meat at the super. His stuff is better, way better.

I do not know his political lean, I've never asked him.
But I probably don't need to either, because I've had hints already.
He has family and friends who have been caught up in the meatgrinder of Trump's actions.
There are "dreamers" in his family.
 
Master Debator said:
How many posts about my name do you think its going to take to convince everyone you're not obsessed and insecure over it? :shrug:
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The Master Debator is on post #3 without an argument for/against the OP in hand. :lol:

The world is your classroom, the topic is, Debating like a Master. :lamo
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
We frequent a tiny mom and pop butcher shop about three miles away which is Mexican owned, and more often than not we buy bean products there because he packages his own pre-cooked stuff. The quality of his meats, veggies and everything else is a cut above, and when the recent meat shortages were happening, he had plenty.
We've pretty much stopped buying meat at the super. His stuff is better, way better.

I do not know his political lean, I've never asked him.
But I probably don't need to either, because I've had hints already.
He has family and friends who have been caught up in the meatgrinder of Trump's actions.
There are "dreamers" in his family.
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Mexican supermarkets here are always cheap and the meat counters are always high quality and super inexpensive for what you get. One sells a killer al Pastor pork for $1.99/lb.

The produce, not so much, but the specific Mexican produce like nopales or mangos are always better than you can get anywhere else.
 
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