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Canada Out, North Korea In...The New America

OlNate said:
I'd love for us to build our own. Or ship our oil to Asia, or Europe. :shrug: We've got lots of options...it's not us who are burning bridges around the world.
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You guys could definitely help Europe ween itself off of Russian oil dependency.
 
veritas1 said:
The people of NK live under extreme oppression and grinding poverty. Their GDP is 5% of South Korea's. Let's not sugarcoat what they are. Without China, they would starve.
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Without Russia they did... in the early 90's after the soviet union collapsed and stopped supporting them.
 
OlNate said:
I'd love for us to build our own. Or ship our oil to Asia, or Europe. :shrug: We've got lots of options...it's not us who are burning bridges around the world.
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What bridges are burnt down Nate?


The USA will be trading with the G7 for years to come.
 
poweRob said:
Why? The hypocritical comedy factor would be at an all time high.
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Comedy is watching you guys whine and stomp your feet over Trump and other Republicans you hate and then using the pretext of morality and decency to do it. It also gets the all time chutzpah award.
 
veritas1 said:
Comedy is watching you guys whine and stomp your feet over Trump and other Republicans you hate and then using the pretext of morality and decency to do it. It also gets the all time chutzpah award.
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I guess you are new to life... you having joined the "Moral Majority" party and all and then at the same time projecting the notion everyone else is always looking down on you.

But alas, the right needs their victim card status to persist.

Get back to us when the left has chosen a specific religion as a party backer to lord over you as some morality means test like the GOP has done to everyone else for the last several decades now.
 
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poweRob said:
I guess you are new to life... you having joined the "Moral Majority" party and all and projecting that it's everyone else looking down on you. But alas, the right needs their victim card status to persist.
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I'm not a victim, just an amused observer of the left's contortions.
 
Very very simple for canada...get on board or get left behind. This is the time for mooseland to get with the program.
As for our president's threats to canada ?
Give them northern Detroit and see what happens...lol.
 
OlNate said:
Trump is doing no favors for Canada. We wouldn't have enemies if it weren't for supporting you guys.

And we've already discussed consequences. I think in your eagerness to believe in your boy, you've arrived at very different conclusions than the rest of the world. But, I mean, cover your embarrassment however you need to. KJU!! KJU!! KJU!!
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You have conflated two entirely different issues; Nuclear disarmament of NK, and our trade imbalance with your country.
I feel embarrassed for you.

Your country needs US way more than we need yours as far as trade goes....and yes, your Mr. Trudeau did stab Trump in the back.
Trump has attempted to make peace in the Korean peninsula, and you're comparing him to a murderous dictator, Kim jong UN?

You're angry.
 
OlNate said:
Given that America enjoys a trade surplus with Canada, ya, I'd say so. All parties, including America, have built protections into NAFTA. We don't want your nasty milk anyway. This is literally nothing more than a sexy number for Trump to get you all bent and twisted over.

As for NATO, you get the trade off of having bases in everyone's countries. And let's face it, at this point in time very few of the NATO countries would have any enemies at all, if not for supporting America. Plus, American military spending creates jobs and makes a few guys who have war material manufacturing companies very rich, with the American people footing the bill. You guys do very well on that front as well - at least, those of you the government cares about most. So probably best to leave NATO out of it, if it were up to me we'd spend even less. Economics is the new battlefield anyway....clearly.

Nah, man, sorry...handy talking points aside, we have enjoyed a mutually beneficial arrangement for a long time. Just because that orange fat ass decides he wants to get greedy doesn't change that history. The future...well, we'll see, I guess.
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Nate would you be agreeable to ending all tariffs and subsidies between us and allowing everyone to trade freely with each other?

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poweRob said:
I guess you are new to life... you having joined the "Moral Majority" party and all and then at the same time projecting the notion everyone else is always looking down on you.

But alas, the right needs their victim card status to persist.

Get back to us when the left has chosen a specific religion as a party backer to lord over you as some morality means test like the GOP has done to everyone else for the last several decades now.
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The lefts offical religion is progressivism

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trouble13 said:
The lefts offical religion is progressivism

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That is a political ideology. Not a group of officially tax exempt political orgs masquerading as faith. Why are you so confused about that?
 
poweRob said:
That is a political ideology. Not a group of officially tax exempt political orgs masquerading as faith. Why are you so confused about that?
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Religion is an ideology too. They both preach moral standards. They both are faith based. Not sure why you think taxes exemption status is relivent but many political groups are tax exempt nonprofits and not all things religious are tax exempt.

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trouble13 said:
Religion is an ideology too. They both preach moral standards. They both are faith based. Not sure why you think taxes exemption status is relivent but many political groups are tax exempt nonprofits and not all things religious are tax exempt.

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Because religions get a tax exempt status. Just being progressive doesn't. I think the burden of proof is on you to prove that progressivism is a religion. Since that was your claim.
 
poweRob said:
Because religions get a tax exempt status. Just being progressive doesn't. I think the burden of proof is on you to prove that progressivism is a religion. Since that was your claim.
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I already explained the comparison in the post you quoted. You can either accept that or don't but I'm not going to get into some semantical argument about the differences. They are both belief systems that attract devout zealots. They are both part of the same family.

The SJW warriors are no different than the moral majority. They both believe they are righteous. The only difference between the two is what is and is not tolerated by each.

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trouble13 said:
I already explained the comparison in the post you quoted. You can either accept that or don't but I'm not going to get into some semantical argument about the differences. They are both belief systems that attract devout zealots. They are both part of the same family.

The SJW warriors are no different than the moral majority. They both believe they are righteous. The only difference between the two is what is and is not tolerated by each.

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I see you don't really understand what progressive is. You demonize it with platitudes because it's from the left. That's about all one could possibly get from your input on that topic.
 
poweRob said:
I see you don't really understand what progressive is. You demonize it with platitudes because it's from the left. That's about all one could possibly get from your input on that topic.
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Feel free to point out my errors
Otherwise
If the shoe fits, wear it

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trouble13 said:
Feel free to point out my errors
Otherwise
If the shoe fits, wear it

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Your error is that you have not illustrated in any fashion that you have one inkling of what progressive means. All I can gather from your post is that you may think progressive means farther left than you like. Which it doesn't mean that at all.
 
OlNate said:
Trump says he'll punish 'the people of Canada' because of Trudeau's news conference.

So Canada is the enemy, and KJU is very talented, very smart, a great personality, and loves his people. I gotta ask, how does everyone feel about that being said on your behalf? KJU loves his people? That's what you're going with?

I find myself agreeing with a Republican:

America, who are you? I feel like I barely recognize you anymore.
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You really bought into this propaganda, eh? Talk about hyperbole. Listen to the fake hyperventilation of the media and pundits less, it will help you out.
 
poweRob said:
Your error is that you have not illustrated in any fashion that you have one inkling of what progressive means. All I can gather from your post is that you may think progressive means farther left than you like. Which it doesn't mean that at all.
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Liking it or disliking it has nothing to do with it. It's characteristically similar to cult religions. That is all I said and it's a comparison you seem to have an issue with

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trouble13 said:
Liking it or disliking it has nothing to do with it. It's characteristically similar to cult religions. That is all I said and it's a comparison you seem to have an issue with

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Because you can't back it up. Things don't just become so just because you say it is.

You've shown no similarities or any such thing. You just say there are similarities and brush you hands together as if you just had a hard days work then walk away.
 
poweRob said:
Because you can't back it up. Things don't just become so just because you say it is.

You've shown no similarities or any such thing. You just say there are similarities and brush you hands together as if you just had a hard days work then walk away.
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Let me make sure I have this straight
You want me to back up my claim how exactly
Do you want examples of progressives acting like zealots?

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