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California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews[W:118]

Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

You listed 4 mosques(out of over 2000 in the US), then said "80 percent of U.S. mosques are funded by Saudi money". I was specifically laughing at the part I just quoted. The rest is laughable too, but I was not specifically laughing at that part.

EXPERT: SAUDIS HAVE RADICALIZED 80% OF US MOSQUES

US Muslim organizations are heavily influenced by Saudi-funded extremists, according to Yehudit Barsky, an expert on terrorism at the American Jewish Committee. Worse still, Barsky told The Jerusalem Post last week, these "extremist organizations continue to claim the mantle of leadership" over American Islam. The power of the extremist Wahhabi form of Islam in the United States was created with generous Saudi financing of American Muslim communities over the past few decades. Over 80 percent of the mosques in the United States "have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence,"

Expert: Saudis have radicalized 80% of US mosques - International - Jerusalem Post

Thats funny...Laugh now
 
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Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Yeah, but he thinks he is winning the argument....:lamo

Might want to recheck:lamo
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Might want to recheck:lamo

You have the history of failed threads....maybe you should think before posting.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Some of you people just cant slam Islam no matter what its people do...ISIS would be proud of you

Sure we can: Islam is a scummy religion with nothing but absolute bull**** at the center. So is christianity. The point being, we don't use cherry picked hate-spewing pastors as a reason to attack ALL christians or demand that christians be removed from the country. Both of your religions are plain evil and you need to get rid of them.

I think liberals have a screw loose. You see, anytime a thread about Islam is started, liberals decide it's time to post about Christians instead. Why is that?

Because all religion is poison and if you can cherry pick hate filled imams we can cherry pick hate filled preachers. Both represent their entire religion, right?

This my friends is what we're up against. I post a list of American mosques that funneled money to Osama bin Laden, and the liberal replies that sending bibles to other countries is the same.

I can not believe the lazy stupidity of some of my fellow Americans.

No, what you posted was that Saudi Arabia was funding mosques in the US. How is that different from US christians funding church and their particular flavor of christianity all over the world?
 
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Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

A California imam delivered a ferociously anti-Semitic sermon Friday from his podium at the Islamic Center of Davis, calling for Allah to “annihilate” the Jews “down to the very last one.” video

https://www.conservativereview.com/...muslims-to-annihilate-the-jews#undefined.uxfs


This pollution was brought to our shores by the religion of peace. Deport immediately!!

Islamic Center of Davis needs to be investigated and shut down till its complete

Now if a Christian said kill the Muslims down to the very last one, he’d be locked up for hate speech!

Californians are odd folks.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

They've been funded by the government of Saudi Arabia, I've already told you. Ask yourself why Saudi Arabia would fund the building of mosques in a country on the other side of the world. Especially considering that Muslims of Saudi descent make up a very small number of the Muslims living here.

That doesn't answer what I asked you. Nice fail.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

- The Ibn Tamiyah mosque in Culver City. The government report called it “a site of extremist-related activity.” This mosque appears to be associated with the King Fahad Mosque.
The report: “Several subjects of FBI investigations prior to September 11 had close connections to the mosque and are believed to have laundered money through this mosque to non-profit organizations overseas affiliated with Osama bin Ladin. In an interview, an FBI agent said he believed that Saudi government money was being laundered through the mosque.

-The King Fahad mosque in Culver City, California. Sheik Fahad al-Thumairy was a Saudi diplomat in its mission in Los Angeles and an imam at the mosque.
“The mosque was built in 1998 from funding provided by Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Abdelaziz. The mosque is reportedly attended by members of the Saudi consultant in Los Angeles and is widely recognized for its anti-Western views.”

-Omar al-Bayoumi met two of the hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, in San Diego in 2000. He helped the two find an apartment and obtain driver’s licenses. He managed a mosque in Cajon, California.
He received $400,000 from Saudi Arabia to fund a new mosque in San Diego. The FBI searched his papers and concluded, “after an exhaustive translation of Bayoumi documents, it is clear that in Bayoumi correspondence, he is providing guidance to young Muslims and some of his writings can be interpreted as jihadist.”

-The Islamic Center of San Diego. The FBI suspected it of laundering Saudi money to al Qaeda. A center employee helped Hazmi and Mihdhar attend flight school and served as their translator.

- Al Haramain Islamic Foundation. The FBI was alarmed by its ties to the Saudi kingdom and terrorists.

Anti-jihad scholars estimate that 80 percent of U.S. mosques are funded by Saudi money.


9/11 report details Saudi Arabia funding of Muslim extremists in U.S. - Washington Times

Still doesn't answer what I asked you. And the Moonie Times? Really?
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

A California imam delivered a ferociously anti-Semitic sermon Friday from his podium at the Islamic Center of Davis, calling for Allah to “annihilate” the Jews “down to the very last one.” video

https://www.conservativereview.com/...muslims-to-annihilate-the-jews#undefined.uxfs


This pollution was brought to our shores by the religion of peace. Deport immediately!!

Islamic Center of Davis needs to be investigated and shut down till its complete

Now if a Christian said kill the Muslims down to the very last one, he’d be locked up for hate speech!

Thankfully enough, nobody is obligated to listen to this whacko or do anything he says.

Not to mention, of course, that now we have a key observation point to detect the meetings and movements of radicals.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

What a pile of poop. 'Muslims are entitled to hate speech because I found a video on YouTube.' Beyond lazy.

Which isn't actually what was said anywhere, but that won't stop you from believing what you want.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

I get it...you support a Muslim calling for all Jews to be annihilated, just come out and say it!


ISIS would agree with you, they would not slam this Muslim ether!

I support people using the English language properly. So far you've proven that you can't read or write.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Oh look at this, the mosque in question has ties to CAIR, the 'voice of moderate Islam' according to liberals who've never bothered researching CAIR.

Civil Rights Group Searches for Suspect who Left Bacon on Smashed Door at Davis Mosque | FOX40

I wonder what this 'civil rights group' will say about the Imam saying 'let's kill the Jews'?

Well obviously they support it because all liberals are closet Muslims who want Sharia law. Duh...
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

I support people using the English language properly. So far you've proven that you can't read or write.

What were you quoting then?
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Go back and read it yourself.

No. Stick to post content rather than commenting on reading/writing ability.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

A California imam delivered a ferociously anti-Semitic sermon Friday from his podium at the Islamic Center of Davis, calling for Allah to “annihilate” the Jews “down to the very last one.” video

https://www.conservativereview.com/...muslims-to-annihilate-the-jews#undefined.uxfs


This pollution was brought to our shores by the religion of peace. Deport immediately!!

Islamic Center of Davis needs to be investigated and shut down till its complete

Now if a Christian said kill the Muslims down to the very last one, he’d be locked up for hate speech!
A couple things. First this is filthy prophecy of something good happening after the Muslims and Jewish people fight. It is very similar to the Christians who support Israel unquestioning because their prophecy requires it.

People don't have a good understanding of how much people of faith are driving this warefare between Muslims and Jews. It is sick and it should railed against by any good decent people.

That includes railing against this jack wagon Imam and jack wagon Ted Cruz who is on the record stating the US has to unquestiongly support Israel because we will be cursed if not.


Secondly, as far as whether this speech is protected or not requires understanding the context. If there is one thing I have learned, it is that there are different meanings that need to be considered. His call to ahnilate Jews was a call to God to perform that act the not Muslims. It would be hard to prove as a threat.

It leads to a third point that conservatives who are anti-muslim are unable to be a reliable source of discontent because:

1. They fail to recognize the involvement of their faith in contributing to the entire f'ing mess.

2. They are unable to differentiate radical to moderate Muslims who are very misguided in their faith from progressive to moderate Muslims who are compatible with Western values.

3. Related to number two, as a result they do not support progressives trying transform the religion.

4. They also support radical Islamic regimes who supress those we should be supporting in #3.


To cap it all, since this Imam was not directly threatening anyone he gets freedom of speech, but he is still a jack arse who needs to get a clue.


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Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

A California imam delivered a ferociously anti-Semitic sermon Friday from his podium at the Islamic Center of Davis, calling for Allah to “annihilate” the Jews “down to the very last one.” video

https://www.conservativereview.com/...muslims-to-annihilate-the-jews#undefined.uxfs


This pollution was brought to our shores by the religion of peace. Deport immediately!!

Islamic Center of Davis needs to be investigated and shut down till its complete

Now if a Christian said kill the Muslims down to the very last one, he’d be locked up for hate speech!



Stephen Molyneux who runs a popular online philosophy geared program (he tries to bring a philosophers mind to contemporary issues and news story) has an episode on the Israeli vs Palestinian conflict.

Apparently, he is half ethnic Jewish, or his mother and her side came from Jewish ancestry. I don't know. And the word "apparently" contrary to what most Americans think does not mean nor connote certainty. It connotes judging by appearances or "it would seem" is another way of thinking about the terms "apparent" and "apparently." I have to bring this up because while it is not a problem for Americans educated in the natural or especially the physical sciences, it is often a problem in misreading for Americans not from that educational background.

Being half Jewish does not mean one can't hate Jews though. Plenty of German Nazis were half Jews themselves. On the other hand, there are videos of Stephen Molyneux speaking highly of Jews.

Here in this very short clip he says his mother was Jewish:









I have not listened to most this video of his below. Not yet. But I have listened to some earlier version--or maybe some white supremacist edited--video of the same or similar theme. And it seems that one I listened to was placed up on youtube by a white supremacist. Anyways, in the one I watched it does not depict Zionist Jews in the most saintly light. Actually, religious Jews in general were not depicted in the most favorable light. But he tries to give a picture of a window through which Palestinian or Arab Muslims might see the Jews through.

One thing he tried to do was give what a comparable example would be like in the United States, if the United States were in the position of the Palestinians. That is roughly 1 million (as opposed to the relatively few thousand Americans in 9-11 that died he points out) Americans would be killed, 200 million American would be forced to flee the USA, and the remaining Americans would be left with a territories the size of Alaska and Texas, with the remainder of the former US territory taken and colonized by invading (he gave Muslims in this case) forces.

He makes clear the Brits were complicit in this. The Americans too do to $$$$ by wealth Jews in lobbying. By "Brits" and "Americans" *originally* they were merely politicians.

I don't agree fully with Palestinian and Muslim rhetoric. Entirely. But one can if they are fair see were anger and resentment and call for war comes from. I mean it only took a tap on the butt in 9-11 with a relatively few deaths and Americans were ready to jihad against Afghanistan. The Palestinians relative to that took a far more sociological devastation.


Stefan Molyneux


Now, to what extent the Arab Palestinian problem should affect Arab Muslims elsewhere in the world that are not Palestinian I don't know. But for some it seems to be a big issue to them.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Well obviously they support it because all liberals are closet Muslims who want Sharia law. Duh...

Most liberals don't have a clue what sharia is. They've proven that repeatedly on this very website.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Which isn't actually what was said anywhere, but that won't stop you from believing what you want.

Explain why you posted a video of a Christian pastor on a Muslim thread.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Still doesn't answer what I asked you. And the Moonie Times? Really?

Every fact reported in that article can be verified by you, but of course it won't be. So pretend that attacking the source invalidates the fact that Californian mosques laundered money for al Qaeda. It only makes you look ridiculous.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Every fact reported in that article can be verified by you, but of course it won't be. So pretend that attacking the source invalidates the fact that Californian mosques laundered money for al Qaeda. It only makes you look ridiculous.

The only one here who looks ridiculous here is the one who claimed that 'many' CA mosques have terror ties and couldn't back it up.

Have someone explain the word 'many' to you again.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Explain why you posted a video of a Christian pastor on a Muslim thread.

It's not just Muslims. Also because I knew the small minded would freak out.
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

It's not just Muslims. Also because I knew the small minded would freak out.

Challenge for you

List your Non Muslim Terror attacks last 2 years on the public, when u are done I will list Muslim Terror attacks
 
Re: California imam calls on Muslims to ‘annihilate’ the Jews

Yeah, but he thinks he is winning the argument....:lamo

I was posed with a question about mosques in California, now you and Red are moving the goalposts to include all mosques in the United States. The need to move goalposts usually means that you're grasping at straws.

Since you'd like to discuss what national data suggests about mosques, I'll share this information with you;

"Ihsan Bagby, a professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky who was the primary researcher of the study. Bagby, who is Muslim, writes that “if there are 2.6 million Muslims who pray the Eid prayer, then the total Muslim population should be closer to estimates of up to 7 million.” That contrasts with other surveys, such as a 2010 one by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, which said there were 2.6 million Muslims in the country. A Pew report from last year said there were 2.75 million Muslims."
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Islam In America: Mosques See Dramatic Increase In Just Over A Decade, According To Muslim Survey | HuffPost

Off topic, yet completely newsworthy that a leading American Muslim scholar suggests we're being lied to about how many Muslims are here. Don't you think?
 
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