Brandishing Firearms

[Rich2018]

I can only judge based on the information provided (which is limited), and the victim has claimed the protesters threatened him with a firearm and claimed "You were next." The victim, in this case, will most likely leverage the precedent set by the protesters all across the United States as justifiable fear.

We don't have all the facts, and opinions and rush to judgement are being based on the short clips that demonize this couple.

Well of course the couple brandishing guns claim that they were justified

So you admit you really don't know what happened or if the couple were indeed justified in their actions.

 

[jotathought]

Well of course the couple brandishing guns claim that they were justified

So you admit you really don't know what happened or if the couple were indeed justified in their actions.

Yes .. I don't know the full facts of what happened. Neither does anyone else on this site, yet many rush to judgement based on the contents of a short video clip.

 

[Rich2018]

Yes .. I don't know the full facts of what happened. Neither does anyone else on this site, yet many rush to judgement based on the contents of a short video clip.

So we can't see any justification in the brandishing their guns.

 

[jotathought]

So we can't see any justification in the brandishing their guns.

I'm not sure I'd agree with that, especially when mobile groups of anarchists who have been rioting, looting, vandalizing, committing arson, assaulting and killing people show up in the neighborhood. Why is the focus on the two home owners and not on the real trouble makers?

 

[Rich2018]

I'm not sure I'd agree with that, especially when mobile groups of anarchists who have been rioting, looting, vandalizing, committing arson, assaulting and killing people show up in the neighborhood. Why is the focus on the two home owners and not on the real trouble makers?

Because they brandished gun in a threatening manner

They basically escalated an already volatile situation and did nothing except bring attention down on themselves. Very unwanted attention at that.

 

[jotathought]

Because they brandished gun in a threatening manner

They basically escalated an already volatile situation and did nothing except bring attention down on themselves. Very unwanted attention at that.

The rioting and other illegal activities have been going on for weeks, and this group stormed the mayor's neighborhood because the mayor read the names and addresses of protesters (which she evidently does for each stream) on a Facebook Live stream. It wasn't this couple that made them do that .. that's a ridiculous assertion.

 

[Rich2018]

The rioting and other illegal activities have been going on for weeks, and this group stormed the mayor's neighborhood because the mayor read the names and addresses of protesters (which she evidently does for each stream) on a Facebook Live stream. It wasn't this couple that made them do that .. that's a ridiculous assertion.

What ?

I said the couple escalated an already volatile situation and did nothing except bring unwanted attention down on themselves.

 

[jotathought]

What ?

I said the couple escalated an already volatile situation and did nothing except bring unwanted attention down on themselves.

I misread/misinterpreted your post .. oops.

 

[aociswundumho]

Because they brandished gun in a threatening manner

They basically escalated an already volatile situation and did nothing except bring attention down on themselves. Very unwanted attention at that.

It did do something.



You'd think two lawyers would be smart enough to learn basic gun safety rules, but apparently not.

 

[Eriech]

Those were trespassers on private property and presenting clear and present danger. They were lucky those people were restrained.

I guess they should have waited, stayed in the house and shot them as they approached.

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[Rich2018]

It did do something.

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The people in the image on the left are not the same people as those in the image on the right

They were different incidents.

 

[aociswundumho]

The people in the image on the left are not the same people as those in the image on the right

They were different incidents.

True, but I can keep providing examples of people displaying their weapons and the rioters steering clear of them.

 

[Rich2018]

True, but I can keep providing examples of people displaying their weapons and the rioters steering clear of them.

Why do you think anyone would not steer clear of someone brandishing a weapon ?

It's why I hurry and leave a store restaurant if I see someone (not a cop) obviously armed with a firearm.

 

[RF667799]

Why do you think anyone would not steer clear of someone brandishing a weapon ?

It's why I hurry and leave a store restaurant if I see someone (not a cop) obviously armed with a firearm.

So you're in the column of people who think brandishing a weapon is a good idea when threatened.

 

[TurtleDude]

The people in the image on the left are not the same people as those in the image on the right

They were different incidents.

exactly the point-the armed white folk weren't brutalized. the unarmed white folk were.

 

[TurtleDude]

So you're in the column of people who think brandishing a weapon is a good idea when threatened.

appears so, but I am a big believer that the first time a violent criminal should see a gun is the last thing he will ever see

 

[Rich2018]

I guess they should have waited, stayed in the house and shot them as they approached.

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Probably sounds logical to the RW.

 

[Rich2018]

exactly the point-the armed white folk weren't brutalized. the unarmed white folk were.

But they're different incidents, you can't possibly know what would have happened if the former had no guns or the latter were armed.

 

[RF667799]

But they're different incidents, you can't possibly know what would have happened if the former had no guns or the latter were armed.

Well then, we should hear no more nonsense from you that if so-and-so hadn't had a gun nobody would have been murdered.

 

[RF667799]

appears so, but I am a big believer that the first time a violent criminal should see a gun is the last thing he will ever see

Yeah, I don't think waving a gun around is a good defensive tactic.

 

[TurtleDude]

Yeah, I don't think waving a gun around is a good defensive tactic.

I trained with several guys who are really good with knives. They all said that someone attacking you shouldn't know you have a knife until you cut them - several times.

 

[Logician Man]

appears so, but I am a big believer that the first time a violent criminal should see a gun is the last thing he will ever see

^^^ A classic example of why those who advocate for annual psychiatric evaluations for legal firearm owners have a valid argument.

 

[joko104]

Generally I agree with the idea what this couple did was foolish, maybe illegal in some sense, but since wild tribes of uncivilized people are broadly being allowed to destroy property, block roads, and topple statues I don’t really care.

It’s a bad idea to brandish a gun to unarmed people though, because If an uncivilized savage decides to try you and test you then you either end up shooting an unarmed person or need to runaway anyway

That's the challenge. In my opinion, anyone could shoot an unarmed, unknown attacker that appears intent to seriously harm the person being attacked. No one should be required to be the best fighter on a complete sudden surprise violent attack.

 

[TurtleDude]

That's the challenge. In my opinion, anyone could shoot an unarmed, unknown attacker that appears intent to seriously harm the person being attacked. No one should be required to be the best fighter on a complete sudden surprise violent attack.

situational awareness and studying "furtive movement" is something the top defensive firearms schools teach their students. This helps you avoid being surprised or at least in a better position to solve a problem imposed on you by a mope.

 

[calamity]

appears so, but I am a big believer that the first time a violent criminal should see a gun is the last thing he will ever see

Typical arm chair warrior, Right Wing fantasy.