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Bob Woodward’s new book reveals a ‘nervous breakdown’ of Trump’s presidency

I continue repeating that everything we see and learn of Trump’s behavior was exhibited during and well before his campaign for Presidency. Woodward’s disclosure is no different. And now his supporters are getting the someone that they wanted to “shake things up”. That’s what they wanted, that’s what they and everyone else got and are getting, right-up the wazoo.

However, I don’t blame the voters. Nor Comey publicizing, against DOJ practice, the additional investigation of Hillary so close to election day. I blame Hillary. All she had to do was spend more time and work harder in the “battleground” states. You’ve got to fight for votes in those states. That’s why they call them “battleground” states. After the election, Obama was quoted as saying, in effect, “You have to go to every fair in every state and eat the food they give you.” What he was saying, in the context of the interview, was that Hillary didn’t do enough. Also, Big Bill didn’t help by making that asinine move on the tarmac meeting with AG Lynch. Lynch was dumb to have agreed to “chat” with Bill also.
 
jimbo said:
You'll have to ask them. I can't get in to find out.
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Don't be lazy & stop the whining. Use Google, you will find the news links.
 
Cardinal said:
They remove the papers from his desk and he forgets what he wanted to do. That's how they prevent disaster 85% of the time.

As I was reading the article I couldn't help but wonder if publishing it would eliminate that as a viable strategy. Or is trump just so far gone that it simply doesn't matter?
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Luckily, Trump doesn't actually read much. Hopefully nobody on Fox and Friends will mention it.
 
Cardinal said:
It's truly remarkable how one's political orientation will determine whether or not a news link opens for the reader. Did the Washington Post do this on purpose?
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No WaPo account here and the link works for me.
 
jimbo said:
You post a link we can't read? Go to great lengths to tell us why you won't cut and paste the pertinent parts? And now it's Mycroft's fault that he can't respond?

Do we have to pass this before we can read it?
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Solution: buy a subscription.
 
The following quotes from the beginning and the end of the WaPo article pretty much sums it up, in terms of whether (or not) this presidency has been one big criminal enterprise:

Later that month, Dowd told Trump: “Don’t testify. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit.”

But Trump, concerned about the optics of a president refusing to testify and convinced that he could handle Mueller’s questions, had by then decided otherwise.

“I’ll be a real good witness,” Trump told Dowd, according to Woodward.

“You are not a good witness,” Dowd replied. “Mr. President, I’m afraid I just can’t help you.”

The next morning, Dowd resigned
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John Dowd was convinced that President Trump would commit perjury if he talked to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. So, on Jan. 27, the president’s then-personal attorney staged a practice session to try to make his point.

In the White House residence, Dowd peppered Trump with questions about the Russia investigation, provoking stumbles, contradictions and lies until the president eventually lost his cool.

“This thing’s a goddamn hoax,” Trump erupted at the start of a 30-minute rant that finished with him saying, “I don’t really want to testify.”
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Fiddytree said:
And for that, there's a companion piece or two that ought to be pursued.

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Apart-State-America-1960-2010/dp/030745343X
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I get the feeling you've a decent reading list.

Here's one that I can't wait to very soon bite into. It's a storyline I can directly relate to.

In Working Toward Whiteness, Roediger continues that history into the twentieth century. He recounts how ethnic groups considered white today-including Jewish-, Italian-, and Polish-Americans-were once viewed as undesirables by the WASP establishment in the United States. They eventually became part of white America, through the nascent labor movement, New Deal reforms, and a rise in home-buying. Once assimilated as fully white, many of them adopted the racism of those whites who formerly looked down on them as inferior. From ethnic slurs to racially restrictive covenants-the real estate agreements that ensured all-white neighborhoods-Roediger explores the mechanisms by which immigrants came to enjoy the privileges of being white in America.
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Product link: (Amazon) Working Toward Whiteness: How America's Immigrants Became White
 
ultmd said:
The following quotes from the beginning and the end of the WaPo article pretty much sums it up, in terms of whether (or not) this presidency has been one big criminal enterprise:

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That is priceless!!!!! Must have this book!!!!!!!!
 
SoCal said:
This the crux of the problem, everyone keeps pissing and moaning about the lech in the WH, but can we blame a 72 year old paranoid set in his ways? He can't help who he is. Do we blame someone who suffers from paranoia to the extent that he needs to be committed?

It would be like blaming your 12 year old dog for biting the Postman or your senile father who forgets about the stove and sets the kitchen on fire. We're always go on and on about Trump when it's Americans who're directly responsible. It's about time the focus is put the paranoids who find him acceptable and buy into the most bizarre conspiracy theories.

Thank God there're some in his administration who're based in reality, trying to educate and keep him from doing more damage than he's already done...
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If that is true, let those "in his administration" invoke the 25th Amendment and remove this crazy man from power.
 
haymarket said:
If that is true, let those "in his administration" invoke the 25th Amendment and remove this crazy man from power.
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If they are able to curb his excesses this way, perhaps truly worrying excesses, there is no need to test the exercise of the 25th amendment, now is there?

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Xelor said:
Red:
I wonder how many things simply never make it into the briefing documents Trump receives....Some quantity of things likely don't get to his desk because the USIC is equally aware that Trump is unhinged and likely compromised/compromising.
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Actually I suspect that the briefing documents are more complete than the oral briefings, since Trump doesn't read.
 
Fiddytree said:
If they are able to curb his excesses this way, perhaps truly worrying excesses, there is no need to test the exercise of the 25th amendment, now is there?

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Curb his excesses?!?!?!?!?!?! You are talking small potatoes when the nation needs the entire Thanksgiving feast.
 
Chomsky said:
You're still playing logic games. I hope you've heard every tree that's ever fallen ...
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Perhaps you can present something that indicates these rumors are actually facts?
 
Mycroft said:
There should be a forum rule against using WaPo links. You know...the paywall and all.

Especially when the OP refuses to link even a little bit of the article.
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It's easy to get around it. If someone is too lazy to do that, the probability is just about zero that they bothered to get a sufficient basis of knowledge elsewhere.
 
TRUMP: Yeah, okay. Well, accurate is that nobody’s ever done a better job than I’m doing as president. So that’s . . . and that’s the way a lot of people feel that know what’s going on, and you’ll see that over the years. But a lot of people feel that, Bob
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Move over, Lincoln, we've got a new hero in town. He's gone done saved the union by traumatizing brown children and paying 130 grand for a two minute lay...
 
haymarket said:
Curb his excesses?!?!?!?!?!?! You are talking small potatoes when the nation needs the entire Thanksgiving feast.
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We know your predilections for exposing the mentally ill in public life, but you yourself could do without the "hysteria."
 
Mr Person said:
It's easy to get around it. If someone is too lazy to do that, the probability is just about zero that they bothered to get a sufficient basis of knowledge elsewhere.
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You are a day late and a dollar short and your comment is now irrelevant.

A member gave me a tip on how to access WaPo. I've read the article. I've commented based on what I've read.
 
Mycroft said:
Until these rumors are confirmed as fact, that is all the are...rumors. The track record of the writer doesn't confirm a single rumor.
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Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots, the former the fuel of the left's echo chamber.
 
Cardinal said:
Bob Woodward called Trump to explain to him that he tried to get a one-one-interview with him, and what's really fascinating is how the level of dysfunction in the process to speak to him directly mirrors the chaos described in the book.

It's a really great listen if you have 5 minutes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...oodward/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.aa1d640ca444
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Trump lies so comfortably that I missed it the first time around, but he spends most of the phone call telling Woodward that nobody told him about Woodward's request to interview him directly. Eventually Trump admits that Senator Graham passed on the request to him.
 
Chomsky said:
I can believe that, though as individuals we all have our own tolerances and individual responses.

I'm very happy to report I'm fresh off a "no internet - no cable" three day weekend. And I must admit it was pretty good. A little boring, but refreshing of sorts. I did find myself jonesing a bit late last night, though! So I checked in here!
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LOL, I don't blame you. I too need a break from Trump.
 
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