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Bob Corker just told the world what he really thinks of Donald Trump

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This is pretty shocking:

(CNN) Tennessee Republican Sen. Bob Corker suggested Wednesday that Gens. John Kelly and James Mattis as well Secretary of State Rex Tillerson are the "people that help separate our country from chaos," a stinging criticism of President Donald Trump from a man once considered an ally in Washington.

Asked directly by a reporter whether he was referring to Trump in using the word "chaos," Corker, who announced last month he would retire in 2018, responded: "(Mattis, Kelly and Tillerson) work very well together to make sure the policies we put forth around the world are sound and coherent. There are other people within the administration that don't. I hope they stay because they're valuable to the national security of our nation."
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/04/politics/bob-corker-trump/index.html

The implication here, made by a prominent republican, is that he fundamentally does not trust President Trump to lead.

I wonder how many other GOP senators have similar reservations, but lack the freedom of retirement to do so publicly.
 
Trump would benefit greatly by having adult supervision.
 
Absentglare said:
This is pretty shocking:



https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/04/politics/bob-corker-trump/index.html

The implication here, made by a prominent republican, is that he fundamentally does not trust President Trump to lead.

I wonder how many other GOP senators have similar reservations, but lack the freedom of retirement to do so publicly.
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makes sense. most if not all of the ruling class are pretty wealthy, and they sure do like it. watching Trump running around tweeting idiocy and playing with war has to make those who are doing pretty well at least a little nervous. after all, this guy might very well burn down the entire playground with his madman strategies and half witted bull****, so yeah, i would guess that those who have the most to lose might be a little less than enthusiastic about it behind the scenes.
 
The wrong people are leaving government . Trump should be one packing his bag.
 
25th Amendment, anyone?

Section 4 would be the money clause, in this case.
 
Trump’s presidency is unraveling. It’s like I’ve been saying he’s a moron. I mean literally a moron.

I understand why other morons don’t see it but there are conservatives here who are smart enough to realize they would never be able to have an intelligent conversation about anything outside of NY real estate with Trump. He doesn’t know anything about anything else.

At a Christian gathering he said he never had to ask God for forgiveness. That’s both moronic and narcissistic. Who doesn’t know that you have to seek forgiveness to be a Christian?

Have you ever seen an interview where he sounded intelligent?

An idiot can be president only IF he listens to his advisers. There have been children as heads of state in the past. But an idiot who thinks he’s smarter than everyone is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

Republicans have to put country before party. Bite the bullet and ask this idiot to resign.


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Absentglare said:
This is pretty shocking:



https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/04/politics/bob-corker-trump/index.html

The implication here, made by a prominent republican, is that he fundamentally does not trust President Trump to lead.

I wonder how many other GOP senators have similar reservations, but lack the freedom of retirement to do so publicly.
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I have to say I don't know how much of this stuff is hyperbole and how much of it is real, but I'm looking forward to 2020 when Trump runs for re-election. Will the GOP try to challenge him in the primary? Not sure if that's ever happened to an encumbant, and if not what are they gonna say if anything. Will the GOP endorse him, another republican, or the demo challenger.

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SonOfDaedalus said:
Trump’s presidency is unraveling. It’s like I’ve been saying he’s a moron. I mean literally a moron.

I understand why other morons don’t see it but there are conservatives here who are smart enough to realize they would never be able to have an intelligent conversation about anything outside of NY real estate with Trump. He doesn’t know anything about anything else.

At a Christian gathering he said he never had to ask God for forgiveness. That’s both moronic and narcissistic. Who doesn’t know that you have to seek forgiveness to be a Christian?

Have you ever seen an interview where he sounded intelligent?

An idiot can be president only IF he listens to his advisers. There have been children as heads of state in the past. But an idiot who thinks he’s smarter than everyone is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

Republicans have to put country before party. Bite the bullet and ask this idiot to resign.


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Where did you get the idea that one must seek forgiveness to be a Christian?
 
trouble13 said:
I have to say I don't know how much of this stuff is hyperbole and how much of it is real, but I'm looking forward to 2020 when Trump runs for re-election. Will the GOP try to challenge him in the primary? Not sure if that's ever happened to an encumbant, and if not what are they gonna say if anything. Will the GOP endorse him, another republican, or the demo challenger.

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I don't think the GOP has any mechanism to replace President Trump.

President Trump is the type of personality who raises the stakes, often through bluffing and hyperbole, until the other guy shows weakness. Republicans showed us in the primaries how ill-equipped they are to control that.

President Trump has overwhelming public support among the GOP, they can't erase that, and he'll happily use it to scorch anyone who challenges him.

President Trump should easily win the primaries in 2020. The really hard thing for me to imagine is how the GOP picks up the pieces when he leaves office. IMO, President Trump's direction is simply not sustainable. He's done too much to close off the GOP from feedback, that's going to be a big shock when it occurs: and the longer they put it off, the bigger the shock.

My bet is that a third party will finally rise to power. It's been a while, and i think we're overdue.
 
Absentglare said:
I don't think the GOP has any mechanism to replace President Trump.

President Trump is the type of personality who raises the stakes, often through bluffing and hyperbole, until the other guy shows weakness. Republicans showed us in the primaries how ill-equipped they are to control that.

President Trump has overwhelming public support among the GOP, they can't erase that, and he'll happily use it to scorch anyone who challenges him.

President Trump should easily win the primaries in 2020. The really hard thing for me to imagine is how the GOP picks up the pieces when he leaves office. IMO, President Trump's direction is simply not sustainable. He's done too much to close off the GOP from feedback, that's going to be a big shock when it occurs: and the longer they put it off, the bigger the shock.

My bet is that a third party will finally rise to power. It's been a while, and i think we're overdue.
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You offer some interesting perspective.

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trouble13 said:
....I'm looking forward to 2020 when Trump runs for re-election. Will the GOP try to challenge him in the primary?...
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Some think Corker is setting himself up to primary Trump.

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...There's no question that Corker feels freer to speak his mind without the worry of angering the President and
potentially stirring up a serious primary challenge....
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countryboy said:
Where did you get the idea that one must seek forgiveness to be a Christian?
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Is that a serious question?

Trump is an absolute moron.



In comments previously unreported, the pastors told CNN, Trump boasted: “I did very, very well with evangelicals in the polls.”

O’Connor and Johnston reminded Trump that neither of them is an evangelical. To which the president-elect reportedly asked: “Well, what are you then?”

The pastors are both mainline Protestants ― like Trump, who describes himself as a Presbyterian. O’Connor and Johnston explained this to the president-elect, who nodded and asked them: “But you’re all Christians?”

“Yes,” they said. “We’re all Christians.”
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Donald Trump Apparently Doesn't Know Which Christians Are Evangelicals | HuffPost
 
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CletusWilbury said:
Some think Corker is setting himself up to primary Trump.

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The line is starting to form. Kasich is there of course,Corker seems slimy enough to join. I'm sure there will be several. Would not be shocked if Trump didn't run for a second term. especially is congress passes nothing.
 
I know who Trump is but I don't know who Bob Corker is.

Corker might be jealous of Trump. And he might feel threatened by him.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Is that a serious question?

Trump is an absolute moron.

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Yes, it's a serious question. Would you please answer it? Where did you get the idea that becoming a Christian, requires one to seek forgiveness?
 
trouble13 said:
I have to say I don't know how much of this stuff is hyperbole and how much of it is real, but I'm looking forward to 2020 when Trump runs for re-election. Will the GOP try to challenge him in the primary? Not sure if that's ever happened to an encumbant, and if not what are they gonna say if anything. Will the GOP endorse him, another republican, or the demo challenger.

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Challenging a sitting president has happened a few times. A couple of the more prominent is Reagan challenging Ford in 1976 and Ted Kennedy challenging Jimmy Carter in 1980. A lot of us forget Pat Buchanan challenged G.H.W. Bush in 1992 and Pete McCloskey challenged Nixon 1972. All challengers lost. That's recent history, there're probably more if one continues to go back.
 
Absentglare said:
I don't think the GOP has any mechanism to replace President Trump.

President Trump is the type of personality who raises the stakes, often through bluffing and hyperbole, until the other guy shows weakness. Republicans showed us in the primaries how ill-equipped they are to control that.

President Trump has overwhelming public support among the GOP, they can't erase that, and he'll happily use it to scorch anyone who challenges him.

President Trump should easily win the primaries in 2020. The really hard thing for me to imagine is how the GOP picks up the pieces when he leaves office. IMO, President Trump's direction is simply not sustainable. He's done too much to close off the GOP from feedback, that's going to be a big shock when it occurs: and the longer they put it off, the bigger the shock.

My bet is that a third party will finally rise to power. It's been a while, and i think we're overdue.
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There's been four challengers to sitting presidents since 1972. 2020 may be a year in which the Republicans acknowledge only a challenger could beat the Democrat, not Trump. Yes, there are still around 15-20% of lifelong Republicans who view Trump more as an opportunistic interloper than a Republican. I can't blame them, after Trump has switch parties 8 times.

Unless a third party is well funded, like Perot who was willing to spend millions of his own money, a third party candidate isn't going anywhere. Last year was the ideal year for a third party candidate to win with both major party candidates unfavorable's at around 60% nationwide. Yet none arose. Who knows about 2020?

Trump has averaged between 75-80% approval rating among Republicans only. Never going above 80% or below 75%. So a good chunk of the GOP isn't happy with him and never has been. The numbers in almost every category are showing that the 2018 midterms will be very good to the Democrats. If the GOP loses the house, there may be a push to unseat Trump for 2020. There is the real possibility the GOP will split right down the middle. Lifelong/true Republicans vs. Trump supporters within the GOP.
 
CletusWilbury said:
Some think Corker is setting himself up to primary Trump.

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I love contentious races imo the voters win when they gight amongst each other

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Perotista said:
There's been four challengers to sitting presidents since 1972. 2020 may be a year in which the Republicans acknowledge only a challenger could beat the Democrat, not Trump. Yes, there are still around 15-20% of lifelong Republicans who view Trump more as an opportunistic interloper than a Republican. I can't blame them, after Trump has switch parties 8 times.

Unless a third party is well funded, like Perot who was willing to spend millions of his own money, a third party candidate isn't going anywhere. Last year was the ideal year for a third party candidate to win with both major party candidates unfavorable's at around 60% nationwide. Yet none arose. Who knows about 2020?

Trump has averaged between 75-80% approval rating among Republicans only. Never going above 80% or below 75%. So a good chunk of the GOP isn't happy with him and never has been. The numbers in almost every category are showing that the 2018 midterms will be very good to the Democrats. If the GOP loses the house, there may be a push to unseat Trump for 2020. There is the real possibility the GOP will split right down the middle. Lifelong/true Republicans vs. Trump supporters within the GOP.
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Well, i suppose it's not a very good bet! A third party won't grow overnight. This growing discontent with the two major parties is not viable in the long term.

I wouldn't be too surprised if we start to see more of the principled conservatives make their way to the libertarian party. The big unknown is what the donors will do. Let's face facts, the GOP is stalling on its legislative agenda. They had a golden ticket to repeal Obamacare, but they don't have a single strategy they could all agree on to do it. So i could see the donors, eventually, abandoning the expensive rhetoric and putting people in power who can get things done, even if the steps taken in the conservative direction aren't as ambitious.

In this situation, i think it's very hard to predict what will happen in the future, but i get the feeling that the rift within the GOP will not be mended by this administration.
 
Absentglare said:
Well, i suppose it's not a very good bet! A third party won't grow overnight. This growing discontent with the two major parties is not viable in the long term.

I wouldn't be too surprised if we start to see more of the principled conservatives make their way to the libertarian party. The big unknown is what the donors will do. Let's face facts, the GOP is stalling on its legislative agenda. They had a golden ticket to repeal Obamacare, but they don't have a single strategy they could all agree on to do it. So i could see the donors, eventually, abandoning the expensive rhetoric and putting people in power who can get things done, even if the steps taken in the conservative direction aren't as ambitious.

In this situation, i think it's very hard to predict what will happen in the future, but i get the feeling that the rift within the GOP will not be mended by this administration.
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There will be no mending. I think the rift will only grow. How much is anyone's guess? Trump never tried to unite the Republicans after the primaries. It turned out he didn't need to. But that had more to due with the public as a whole dislike of Hillary Clinton than not uniting the party. Even the anti or never Trumpers would never vote for Clinton.

But not trying to unite the congressional members behind him has led to what we see today. Basically failure on legislation, in particular the repeal of Obamacare. Trump is trying to horse whip them with his angry, personal attacks on congressional members via twitter. That won't work. Trump is use to bullying people to get his way, that won't work on certain Republican senators and representatives.

Next year will be interesting. Will we see Trump supporters ditch those GOP senators and representatives who at times stood against Trump and help elect Democrats to congress? It is beginning to look that way. It seems Trump has fractured the Republican Party and there may be no mending or fixing of that fracture until he is gone.
 
Absentglare said:
This is pretty shocking:



https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/04/politics/bob-corker-trump/index.html

The implication here, made by a prominent republican, is that he fundamentally does not trust President Trump to lead.

I wonder how many other GOP senators have similar reservations, but lack the freedom of retirement to do so publicly.
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Corker's "chaos" comment yesterday resonated. He said what everyone around him with a brain has been thinking. People are deeply worried, even afraid. The fear is now articulated and announced.
 
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