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Bloomberg tops Trump by 6 points in hypothetical matchup: poll

dcsports said:
He'd be in the pack. There are too many people frustrated with the Democrat field, as well as a certain group that would love his celebrity status. He may not be liked by establishment democrats, but he would pull support from them, as well as pulling others generally frustrated with DC politics. (Maybe even carving off some Sanders supporters).
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If you think that establishment democrats despise him, just wait until you get a load of what progressives in the party think about this neolib, self-interested opportunist. His only allies are a minority of centrist/establishment Dems and that's precisely his problem. He may do better if Biden melts, but will be completely impotent until then.

Chomsky said:
If it appears Bloomberg's serious, I think he'll easily eclipse Steyer. But I have no idea how high would indeed go.
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As per above. Again, the only way he's going to do well is if he somehow convinces moderates who don't already despise him off of Buttigieg and Biden's ships.
 
mrdeltoid said:
You are correct. You gotta play to win. The Dems are so worried about “ electability “, whatever that means, they are playing scared. Going into the battle against Trump that way is a bad strategy.
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Tailoring a Dem candidate to appeal to Trump voters is a fool's errand ...
 
Chomsky said:
I agree, in part. I'm torn, because there are two ways to slay this:

1] Overwhelming turnout of the base

2] Flipping Trump's battle-ground states back

No matter how overwhelming #1 is, if it doesn't do #2 - it's to no effect. That's what is making me paranoid when I see the battle-ground polling. I think Biden is the only match-up solidly beating Trump there. It would be interesting seeing how Bloomberg does in direct Trump match-ups in these states.
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No one is solidly beating Trump in the battle ground states unfortunately; it's all very much within margin of error; I think Arizona might be the only exception to the rule and even then the exceedance is narrow: One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds - The New York Times

What I do know is that Warren looks consistently bad in the battlegrounds vs Bernie and Biden in theoretical head to heads vs Trump.
 
Surrealistik said:
No one is solidly beating Trump in the battle ground states unfortunately; it's all very much within margin of error; I think Arizona might be the only exception to the rule and even then the exceedance is narrow: One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds - The New York Times

What I do know is that Warren looks consistently bad in the battlegrounds vs Bernie and Biden in theoretical head to heads vs Trump.
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Well, Biden seems to be the solid Dem front-runner in the battle-grounds none-the-less.

But the bolded is very disheartening IMO. Biden seems to be the guy leading in the battlegrounds, and the guy with the highest A-A support. If he can pull the liberal base adequately, that pretty much makes him the front-runner - for better or worse.
 
JacksinPA said:
Bloomberg tops Trump by 6 points in hypothetical matchup: poll | TheHill

Former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg leads President Trump by 6 percentage points in a hypothetical 2020 match-up, a new poll shows.

Bloomberg, who on Friday filed as a Democratic presidential candidate in Alabama but has not announced an official campaign, leads Trump, 43 to 37 percent with 21 percent unsure, according to the Morning Consult/Politico survey released early Sunday.
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The major difference between Bloomberg & Trump: Mike has morals & a spine.
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Well that and he's actually a billionaire, and a truly self made one at that...
 
dcsports said:
That's very interesting. Bloomberg would throw the democrat primary into chaos. I'll bet he's fielding a lot of calls right now begging him to stop.
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I wouldn't worry about it, I'm sure he's not taking Donalds calls anymore...
 
Cardinal said:
3] Fighting voter suppression by creating a massive public campaign to make sure everybody is registered. This, I believe, will be the biggest fight of 2020. The motivation and effort by Republicans to cheat next year will like nothing you or I have ever seen.
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Exactly, we already have Trump caught committing crimes trying to wind and we're still a year out....
 
Chomsky said:
Well, Biden seems to be the solid Dem front-runner in the battle-grounds none-the-less.

But the bolded is very disheartening IMO. Biden seems to be the guy leading in the battlegrounds, and the guy with the highest A-A support. If he can pull the liberal base adequately, that pretty much makes him the front-runner - for better or worse.
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Again, it is folly to look at within margin of error polling and call that a 'solid lead' or even meaningful; that was Hillary's mistake, or do you mean within the primary?

As is, Biden and Sanders are pretty much in a statistical tie vs Trump, which means much more needs to be done.

As to Warren, she has plenty of time to improve her numbers, so I wouldn't be too dismayed; that goes for everyone in this contest.
 
swing_voter said:
That's because voters don't know anything about Bloomberg. If the democrats nominate Bloomberg, media will focus on him and voters will find out all the things they don't like about him.

It's the same with every election.
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interestingly, the voters should now know all the things they shouldn't like about Donald Trump.

doesn't seem to matter with him though. i guess if he represented the Party of God it would.
 
Surrealistik said:
Again, it is folly to look at within margin of error polling and call that a 'solid lead' or even meaningful; that was Hillary's mistake, or do you mean within the primary?

As is, Biden and Sanders are pretty much in a statistical tie vs Trump, which means much more needs to be done.

As to Warren, she has plenty of time to improve her numbers, so I wouldn't be too dismayed; that goes for everyone in this contest.
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Actually, I did mean within the primary. But yours was a good post, regardless.
 
Chomsky said:
Tailoring a Dem candidate to appeal to Trump voters is a fool's errand ...
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It's not about 'appealing to Trump voters' though. It's about appealing to voters, period. As it sits now, the field is playing to the hard left, which doesn't play well with the general electorate either. If you get, say, a Sanders vs. Trump matchup, we'll have another election where most voters don't like either candidate.

Of course the issue at this time is the overshadowing impeachment. Everything is about Trump. It's hard for ANY of the Democrats to get their message out.
 
GDViking said:
I wouldn't worry about it, I'm sure he's not taking Donalds calls anymore...
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Calls from establishment Democrats - and other candidates. Trump would probably welcome Bloomberg coming into the race.
 
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