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Blacks and crime

Media Bias/Fact Check works for me. You seem not to like it. You might try AllSides.

It works for you, just don't try to use it to discredit legitimate sources. I know why I see liberals fling MBFC around online, because they think it works for discrediting studies and articles done by conservatives. That may work on Facebook, but this is the big leagues. :lol:
 

Did he say that? Fine. He delivered. Jackie Robinson. my childhood hero in Brooklyn, a lifelong republican, switched parties in 1964.

What's your point? LBJ also accurately predicted that the south would be lost to democrats because of their support for civil rights. It started happening with Goldwater in 1964. Jackie was one prominent example.
 
Did he say that? Fine. He delivered. Jackie Robinson. my childhood hero in Brooklyn, a lifelong republican, switched parties in 1964.

What's your point? LBJ also accurately predicted that the south would be lost to democrats because of their support for civil rights. It started happening with Goldwater in 1964. Jackie was one prominent example.

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Here’s one
 
How many LEOs of color killed un-armed white people?

How many un-armed white men didn't give LEOs of color a reason or a pretext to shoot them would be my question to you?

Every shooting has a different set of facts and circumstances. I wonder how many Black police officers end up shooting young Black men?

At some point Black America has to acknowledge the cultural violence and cultural crime from their own community. In Chicago most young Black men are killed by other young Black men. But liberal progressives blame that on White America as well. Nobody should be allowed to make excuses for their wrong doing. Not police, not White society, not Black society.
 
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Ok chief. Did you know that I infer from your posts that you think black suspects should be summarily executed, but white suspects shouldn't? I'm not going to substantiate this. I'm not going to link any post you've ever made in your life as evidence. I'm just going to infer it.

You can infer whatever you want, but I am sure you are the only one that would infer that, whereas I know I'm not the only one that inferred your posting in this thread that way.
 
Does my avatar change the fact that Columbia University describes MBFC as one guy playing armchair media analyst? We like 'credible sources' round these parts Trippy.

It works for you, just don't try to use it to discredit legitimate sources. I know why I see liberals fling MBFC around online, because they think it works for discrediting studies and articles done by conservatives. That may work on Facebook, but this is the big leagues. :lol:

As usual, you took a source out of context. Big league means something quite different for you than me.

Another passage in your wikipedia source states:

The site has been used by researchers at the University of Michigan to create a tool called the "Iffy Quotient", which draws data from Media Bias/Fact Check and NewsWhip to track the prevalence of "fake news" and questionable sources on social media.[5][6] The site was also used by a research group at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in initial training of an AI to fact check and detect the bias on a website
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Media Bias/Fact Check - Wikipedia

University of Michigan and M.I.T. rank high in credibility.
 
Curious question, do you think the reaction would be this.....severe, (not sure what word to use) if the officer was black or asian or hispanic?

let me put it to you this way...it should not matter the color of the officer, police brutality is WRONG.
 
As usual, you took a source out of context. Big league means something quite different for you than me.

Another passage in your wikipedia source states:

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Media Bias/Fact Check - Wikipedia

University of Michigan and M.I.T. rank high in credibility.

Those are projects conducted by some department at UoM and MIT, not school endorsements. MIT didn't say 'we endorse MBFC'. What the Columbia Journalism Review said still stands; the journalism department doesn't endorse MBFC.

Furthermore, the Poynter Institute specializes in journalism and fact checking. Its a journalism school, not a guy sitting at home in his boxers running a fact checking site.

Poynter Institute - Wikipedia

Come on TT, you're smarter than this.
 
let me put it to you this way...it should not matter the color of the officer, police brutality is WRONG.

Absolutely 100% agreed, so why is this a race issue, and not a corrupt cop issue?
 
How many blacks have died on black on black crimes like between crips and bloods?

Looking for a source covering up 30-40 years
 
Those are projects conducted by some department at UoM and MIT, not school endorsements. MIT didn't say 'we endorse MBFC'. What the Columbia Journalism Review said still stands; the journalism department doesn't endorse MBFC.

Furthermore, the Poynter Institute specializes in journalism and fact checking. Its a journalism school, not a guy sitting at home in his boxers running a fact checking site.

Poynter Institute - Wikipedia

Come on TT, you're smarter than this.

Some DP posters earn a reputation for ill repute. Can you provide a photo of that guy sitting at home in his boxers?

Doh, I grew up with the St. Petersburg Times and Tampa Tribune. They merged into the Tampa Times. I consider the Poynter Institute highly reputable.

Based on personal experience, I prefer Media Bias/Fact Check.

If the Poynter Institute offered a service comparable to Media Bias/Fact Check or AllSides, I would absolutely check it out.

Did you mean to discredit any specific University of Michigan and M.I.T. departments? If yes, please expound on your criticism of said departments.
 
Certainly one has to mourn the killing in Minneapolis, and the officer should have been indicted.

But a huge mythology has been created about race and crime by Academics, Race Hustles and the corrupt liberal MSM.

Let's cut to the chase. The USA has an extremely racist society. Obviously that kind of systemic racism is going to have an effect on everyone in that society. Here are some things that aren't "ancient history" like slavery, but are from my lifetime, and a lot of DP poster's lifetimes. Things that shaped us.

Look at the hatred for a child in those women's eyes. For no other reason than that child has brown skin. Those were the mothers of many of our forum members. Obviously their opinions influenced us.

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How about lynchings? Most of us were alive when lynchings were going on. 1981 anyone?

Lynching of Michael Donald - Wikipedia


How about Redlining - Wikipedia
....the systematic denial of various services by federal government agencies, local governments as well as the private sector, to residents of specific, most notably black, neighborhoods or communities, either directly or through the selective raising of prices.[2][3] Neighborhoods with high proportion of minority residents are more likely to be redlined than other neighborhoods with similar household incomes, housing age and type, and other determinants of risk, but different racial composition.

Redlining is still happening.


To pretend none of this racism is having a major effect on American society today, when the facts are presented over and over again, is willful ignorance in my opinion, an idea put forth by racists in an attempt to justify their beliefs.

The Effects of Systemic Racism on the AcademicAchievement of African American MaleAdolescents

Physiological and Psychological Impact of Racism and Discrimination for African-Americans

Millions of black people affected by racial bias in health-care algorithms
 
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Doh, I grew up with the St. Petersburg Times and Tampa Tribune. They merged into the Tampa Times. I consider the Poynter Institute highly reputable.

Thanks for that bit of information. A quick google confirmed your confidence.
 
Here will show you why profiling is an issue.

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And? Floyd wasn't profiled, he was accused of forgery, and again, that doesn't show why this is a RACE issue and not a corrupt cop issue....we are talking about the Floyd case. The 3 that you linked, are absolutely racial, this still has not shown anything to be a race related issue, the only race related issue is that Floyd was black and the cop who kneeled on him was white. Is there any indication of the cop being racially biased in the past, IF there is, I haven't seen it, and IF there is, then absolutely this can be considered that.

The fact that it's the FIRST place everyone goes to, doesn't make it so. It 100% could be a race thing, it could also 100% be a bad cop thing, and 100% be a cop who absuses his power thing regardless of race. But the last two don't make as good press as the first one.
 
Certainly one has to mourn the killing in Minneapolis, and the officer should have been indicted.

But a huge mythology has been created about race and crime by Academics, Race Hustles and the corrupt liberal MSM.

You need to pay attention to FACTS.... FBI TABLE 44
rrests, by Race and Ethnicity, 2018

In 2018, 69.0 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 27.4 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.

Of arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 18.8 percent were Hispanic or Latino.

Of all juveniles (persons under the age of 18) arrested in 2018, 61.9 percent were White, 34.9 percent were Black or African American, and 3.2 percent were of other races.

Of juvenile arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 22.7 percent were Hispanic or Latino.

Of all adults arrested in 2018, 69.5 percent were White, 26.9 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.

Of adult arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 18.5 percent were Hispanic or Latino.

White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 58.7 percent of those arrests.

Of adults arrested for murder, 53.0 percent were Black or African American, 44.4 percent wereWhite, and 2.6 percent were of other races.

White juveniles comprised 48.8 percent of all juveniles arrested for violent crimes, and Black or African American juveniles accounted for 48.4 percent of juveniles arrested for violent crimes.White juveniles comprised 55.0 percent of all juveniles arrested for property crimes.

Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 73.5 percent were White.

White juveniles comprised 55.5 percent of juveniles arrested for aggravated assault and 56.3 percent of juveniles arrested for larceny-theft.

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Facts demonstrate that "whites" are the higher number of violence makers in America, it has nothing to do with any academia, media network or any of the elements used to try and "sanitize away the facts". FBI States are FACTS.


America has too much violence !!! for a nations billing itself as the most advance and the wealthiest nation, it should not be among the highest in being the most violent and among any listing as a racist nation, which is has persisted to be.
 
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And? Floyd wasn't profiled, he was accused of forgery, and again, that doesn't show why this is a RACE issue and not a corrupt cop issue....we are talking about the Floyd case. The 3 that you linked, are absolutely racial, this still has not shown anything to be a race related issue, the only race related issue is that Floyd was black and the cop who kneeled on him was white. Is there any indication of the cop being racially biased in the past, IF there is, I haven't seen it, and IF there is, then absolutely this can be considered that.

The fact that it's the FIRST place everyone goes to, doesn't make it so. It 100% could be a race thing, it could also 100% be a bad cop thing, and 100% be a cop who absuses his power thing regardless of race. But the last two don't make as good press as the first one.

No, he was accused of having a fake 20...they suspected it, we still do not have the answer on if that 20 was even fake. I got accused of that in Dollar Tree once...my 20 was real and had just came out of the bank ATM. I had proof of it....thank God, I am not black...I cannot even fathom being killed in that fashion for something that is SUSPECTED, but not proven.

George Floyd: how a suspected counterfeit $20 bill led to protests across the US - AS.com
 
Let's cut to the chase. The USA has an extremely racist society.

Racism exists in countries where different races exist. It's that simple. The USA happens to be the most racially diverse country, which causes problems, which leads people to say we're an extremely racist society. Countries that never racially diversified, like Japan and Norway, aren't known as racist countries. No racial tension exists there, no bad blood. Japan gets to celebrate its history and culture, without having people constantly bring up the bad parts. The US is a country divided.
 
No, he was accused of having a fake 20...they suspected it, we still do not have the answer on if that 20 was even fake. I got accused of that in Dollar Tree once...my 20 was real and had just came out of the bank ATM. I had proof of it....thank God, I am not black...I cannot even fathom being killed in that fashion for something that is SUSPECTED, but not proven.

George Floyd: how a suspected counterfeit $20 bill led to protests across the US - AS.com

Absolutely agree with you, but HOW THE **** IS THAT PROFILING???? It's not, it's the actions of corrupt cops......show me a history of racially motivated actions by the cop arrested, and THEN I will say yea, THIS INCIDENT WAS RACIALLY MOTIVATED, as of right now, I'm not willing to do that, because....wait for it.....THERE'S NO ****ING PROOF OF IT BEING RACIALLY MOTIVATED.
 
You need to pay attention to FACTS.... FBI TABLE 44



Facts demonstrate that "whites" are the higher number of violence makers in America, it has nothing to do with any academia, media network or any of the elements used to try and "sanitize away the facts". FBI States are FACTS.


America has too much violence !!! for a nations billing itself as the most advance and the wealthiest nation, it should not be among the highest in being the most violent and among any listing as a racist nation, which is has persisted to be.

Interesting chart there, if you look at it,

White on Black crime - 10.4 %
White on White crime - 56%
Black on White crime - 13.7%
Black on Black crime - 62%

That's just...interesting and I agree, too much violence regardless of race.
 
Absolutely agree with you, but HOW THE **** IS THAT PROFILING???? It's not, it's the actions of corrupt cops......show me a history of racially motivated actions by the cop arrested, and THEN I will say yea, THIS INCIDENT WAS RACIALLY MOTIVATED, as of right now, I'm not willing to do that, because....wait for it.....THERE'S NO ****ING PROOF OF IT BEING RACIALLY MOTIVATED.

Did you watch the video of the FBI agent? You didn't did you?
 
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