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Beyond ridiculous.... "Robert Lee"

I went to school with a bodybuilder named Robert Lee.... a black guy.


We've lost our collective mind.
 
Goshin said:
I went to school with a bodybuilder named Robert Lee.... a black guy.


We've lost our collective mind.
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I agree that some have lost their minds. It was one of the stupid moves ESPN could have done.
What is next. Have everyone named Robert Lee or any other noted South military leader change their names.

This country is heading for the sewer pretty quickly. Who knows, maybe the south will rise again. :mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
I agree that some have lost their minds. It was one of the stupid moves ESPN could have done.
What is next. Have everyone named Robert Lee or any other noted South military leader change their names.

This country is heading for the sewer pretty quickly. Who knows, maybe the south will rise again. :mrgreen:
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Surely what they are supposed to do is legally change their names....

We are going to scrub this country pure!
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Surely what they are supposed to do is legally change their names....

We are going to scrub this country pure!
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Like I said. the South may rise again.

ESPN should have kept the sports announcer. If some of the people get upset. That is their problem not ESPN. People need to get their heads on straight. The civil war ended a long time ago.
 
mike2810 said:
Like I said. the South may rise again.

ESPN should have kept the sports announcer. If some of the people get upset. That is their problem not ESPN. People need to get their heads on straight. The civil war ended a long time ago.
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This is not about that really, this is about American Sadism which has been out of control for awhile....those found with impure thoughts which we know because they are dumb enough to defy orders and speak need to get their beat-downs.
 
If this is where we're heading then society has collectively gone clinically insane.



In recent days I've been feeling a certain sympathy for the anti-Confederate-statue crowd, given the argument that many were more about Jim Crow than remembering history... but if this is where this is going, screw that: it is time to draw a line well short of this madness and say "enough... not one more step".
 
Goshin said:
If this is where we're heading then society has collectively gone clinically insane.



In recent days I've been feeling a certain sympathy for the anti-Confederate-statue crowd, given the argument that many were more about Jim Crow than remembering history... but if this is where this is going, screw that: it is time to draw a line well short of this madness and say "enough... not one more step".
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I don't see why we can't do both.

We can recognize that this is, indeed, clinically insane (and worth noting also that it came from within ESPN).

And we can also recognize the Jim Crow-era history of most of our Confederate monuments and why a lot of people have a problem with them.

Those two things don't conflict.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
I don't see why we can't do both.

We can recognize that this is, indeed, clinically insane (and worth noting also that it came from within ESPN).

And we can also recognize the Jim Crow-era history of most of our Confederate monuments and why a lot of people have a problem with them.

Those two things don't conflict.
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The one leads to the other, as both are born of hypersensitivity to being offended.


There are already issues arising about other non-Confederate statues, because the historical persons depicted by them don't measure up to modern standards of racial/etc insensitivity.... this has to stop, we need to acknowledge history was history and just quit being so damn offended by everything
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I don't see why we can't do both.

We can recognize that this is, indeed, clinically insane (and worth noting also that it came from within ESPN).

And we can also recognize the Jim Crow-era history of most of our Confederate monuments and why a lot of people have a problem with them.

Those two things don't conflict.
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Agreed. I personally have absolutely no problem with removing the statues at all. What I have a problem with is their being torn down, set on fire and sledge-hammered to bits. It's like a third world country. What happened to due process?
 
How did the folks at ESPN not already know this?

From Wiki:

In America, Lee is the most common surname for Chinese and Korean Americans and the second-most-common surname for Asian and Pacific Islanders, behind the Nguyen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_(English_surname)
 
Goshin said:
The one leads to the other, as both are born of hypersensitivity to being offended.
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I don't see why they do.

Monuments are statements of honor. It's a sign of growth for us to reconsider what we honor.

It is stupid for ESPN to assume we're affraid of a "Robert Lee." Surely if we can get over a president whose middle name is "Hussein," we're capable of handling that.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I don't see why they do.

Monuments are statements of honor. It's a sign of growth for us to reconsider what we honor.

It is stupid for ESPN to assume we're affraid of a "Robert Lee." Surely if we can get over a president whose middle name is "Hussein," we're capable of handling that.
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See my edit above. Where does it stop? When Washington and Jefferson are removed from Rushmore?
 
Goshin said:
If this is where we're heading then society has collectively gone clinically insane.



In recent days I've been feeling a certain sympathy for the anti-Confederate-statue crowd, given the argument that many were more about Jim Crow than remembering history... but if this is where this is going, screw that: it is time to draw a line well short of this madness and say "enough... not one more step".
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Racist, slave supporting scum.
 
KevinKohler said:
Racist, slave supporting scum.
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Apparently it doesn't take much to be considered that, these days. Being an Asian-American with the moniker "Robert Lee" is sufficient to make people quake in their boots.
 
Goshin said:
An Asian sportscaster named Robert Lee gets pulled from announcing a game in Virginia on ESPN, because of a simple coincidence of names....


ESPN pulls Asian-American announcer from Virginia football game because he has a Confederate general's name | Fox News


This is simply so far beyond ridiculous, it is actually insane.
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Yes it is. Agreed. But that's the reality that awaits further infection by the SJW / excessive PC bull**** reality, as forced on the nation by those on the left.

It's time to stop this bull****. High time too.
 
Goshin said:
See my edit above. Where does it stop? When Washington and Jefferson are removed from Rushmore?
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Well, to me, the line in the sand is pretty clear.

Things that reasonable people can actually disagree on. And maybe not all of even those things ever happen, but it's completely understandable how someone would see statues erected 80 years after the war during Jim Crow as... questionable.

I don't see how anyone could see ESPN as anything short of one crayon short of a box for this.

And again, let's remember: this is ESPN making its own stupid decision. It's not like people were writing in about this.

This is not an actual human actually having a problem with Mr. Robert Lee. This is ESPN making a cluster**** of a PR decision based on the assumption that Americans are a whole lot less rational than they really are -- even in times like these.

This is like Play-Doh accidentally releasing a molding kit that looks like a dong. (Yes, they did.)
 
Who will protect Sarah ?
 
Goshin said:
If this is where we're heading then society has collectively gone clinically insane.



In recent days I've been feeling a certain sympathy for the anti-Confederate-statue crowd, given the argument that many were more about Jim Crow than remembering history... but if this is where this is going, screw that: it is time to draw a line well short of this madness and say "enough... not one more step".
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I don't quite agree with this. I understand being incensed by this bit of ridiculous idiocy by ESPN, so I get where you're coming from, but I still think the line should be right at the edge. The things that should stay should stay, and the things that shouldn't, shouldn't. No need to draw a line somewhere else just to escape the possibility of momentum taking it too far to the other side.
 
Anagram said:
I don't quite agree with this. I understand being incensed by this bit of ridiculous idiocy by ESPN, so I get where you're coming from, but I still think the line should be right at the edge. The things that should stay should stay, and the things that shouldn't, shouldn't. No need to draw a line somewhere else just to escape the possibility of momentum taking it too far to the other side.
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Bear in mind the slippery slope is not a fallacy, when the slope is greased and you're being pushed.
 
Goshin said:
Bear in mind the slippery slope is not a fallacy, when the slope is greased and you're being pushed.
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The slippery slope is not always wrong. But in this case, I think it is. Whether you think confederate monuments should stay or go, there are some pretty clear lines between Washington and Jefferson compared to confederate generals and the reasons they were put up. Enough that I think the slippery slope does not hold water.
 
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