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That doesn't disprove what I said.
I think it does.
That doesn't disprove what I said.
I think it does.
Nope. And what was the penalty again? LOL
Already set forth in #199.
Those involved in the possession, sale, or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance are subject to discipline by the commissioner and risk permanent expulsion from the game.
Obviously it wasn't enforced, so therefore irrelevant.
Not at all irrelevant. Players were put on notice. Any steroid use thereafter invalidates all achievements.
Nope. And it was all illegal drugs, including amphetamines.
So if it nullifies their achievements, then anyone else caught using an illegal drug, nullifies theirs. Can't have it just one way champ.
There was no such notice about amphetamines from the Commissioner's office until 2005. Use before then was OK in my book.
Compromise? How about this/
1) Bonds was the greatest steroid ballplayer of all time
2) Chuck Klein was the greatest home field ballplayer of all time
3) Williams & Ruth are the greatest offensive ballplayers of all time
it mentions all illegal substances.
No for #2. Mel Ott was the greatest home field ballplayer of all time.
Everyone understood it was steroids.
Captain, here are some homefield stats to consider:
Klein's top 5 home seasons
1) 1933 AVG .467 HR's 20 SLG .789 RBI's 81
2) 1930 AVG .437 HR's 26 SLG .792 RBI's 109
3) 1932 AVG .423 HR's 29 SLG .799 RBI's 97
4) 1931 AVG .401 HR's 22 SLG .740 RBI's 78
5) 1929 AVG .467 HR's 20 SLG .789 RBI's 81
Ott's top 5 home seasons
1) 1932 AVG .285 HR's 24 SLG .622 RBI's 66
2) 1942 AVG .349 HR's 23 SLG .643 RBI's 62
3) 1930 AVG .358 HR's 21 SLG .658 RBI's 65
4) 1944 AVG .251 HR's 21 SLG .596 RBI's 46
5) 1929 AVG .297 HR's 20 SLG .584 RBI's 65
highest average any season at home
1) Hornsby .478 (Sportsmans Park)
2) Klein .467 (Baker Bowl)
3) L. Walker .461 (Coors Field)
4) Klein .437 (Baker Bowl)
5) Klein .423 (Baker Bowl)
Most HR's in a season home field
1) Greenberg 39
2) McGuire 38
3) Bonds 37
4) Foxx 35
5) Sosa 35
Way back
33rd) Klein 29
190th) Ott 24
LIFETIME, Ott hit 323 of his 511 home runs at home... 63%. Percentages tell us more than bare numbers. Chuck Klein hit 174 of 300, 58%.
Like all sports it is stupid to compare athletes in a sport that is nothing like it was back when it started.
They understood. They just decided to cheat.
Obviously it wasn't considered cheating, hence them never facing any penalties for it.
They cheated. A bank robber who gets away is still a bank robber.
Nope, if they cheated, they would have faced penalties.
Bonds was a great player, even before his steroid years say 2000 to the end of his career, after all he won the MVP award 3 times
before he became Barroid! But please don't 'erect a cathedral' around his peak years which BTW he attained his peak at the ages of
36 to 40, that in itself is strange.
This is what you miss:
THE STEROID ERA
FROM 1903-1949 that's 47 years THERE WERE 44 PLAYERS WHO HIT OVER 30 HR'S IN A SEASON, Less than 1 a year
In the year before Bonds hit 73 HR's, 2000, 46 Major Leaguers League hit over 30 HR's, these were video game stats!
In one year more players had over 30 HR's than than the 1st 47 years of the modern baseball era combined.
In the steroid era only slightly more than run of the mill players Luis Gonzalez, Brady Anderson & Greg Vaughn hit 50 HR's in a season
From 1903 to 1949 Ruth, Foxx, Greenberg, Kiner, Wilson & Mize Hall of Famers all were the only players to reach that mark.
Before the steroid era Ruth's record of 60 seemed unapproachable until Maris hit 61 in 61.
What's remarkable during the steroid era Sammy Sosa hit over 60 HR's 3X & get this didn't win the HR title during those 3 seasons.
What is more amazing about Bonds is he played in AT&T Park, which is the hardest stadium for a left-handed hitter to hit homeruns. If he played in Yankee Stadium, he could have hit for 90 hrs.