AZ Shooting Survivor Arrested for Death Threat Against Tea Party Leader | The Blaze
Stop the madness, people! :shock:
The interview does not alter the accuracy of my statements about Fuller.
Why don't any of YOU feel something for Fuller as a victim? He's struggling to deal with what happened to him - no, he's not doing the right thing - but he needs HELP (by this I mean he needs therapy and support) - not judgment.
victims of all different tragedies deal with guilt, anger, frustration, heartbreak, and even survivor's remorse - Some even commit suicide. They need HELP and support - not ridicule and judgment.
I hope he pulls through - I hope that he can let go of the anger and accept what's happened and actually piece his heart and mind back together.
Why is everyone else reading into this sentiment of mine and seeing that I'm acting out of line and horribly wrong for WANTING him to be OK in the end? Yes - I hope and pray that Fuller can recover from his physical and mental trauma.
And so should all of you.
He threatened someone's life. A congress critter, at that. Any sympathy as a victim that I might have had for his, is officially gone.
He threatened someone's life. A congress critter, at that. Any sympathy as a victim that I might have had for his, is officially gone.
From what I've read you have little sympathy for anyone suffering from any sort of a mental issue.
You expect everyone - no matter what - to react reasonably in every situation.
But that's not how things work.
From what I've read you have little sympathy for anyone suffering from any sort of a mental issue.
You expect everyone - no matter what - to react reasonably in every situation.
But that's not how things work.
The problem is, there were really irresponsible members of the media casting accusations and assumptions without anything to back that up. Now that it's clear the shooter was a nutzoid, their sins are even more reprehensible. The fact this loser made threats against someone based on lies indicts those media folks spreading said lies. Perhaps it would be good if they would publicly acknowledge their lies and retract them.
Oh I dunno, maybe the fact there were folks in the media blaming the Tea Party from the word Go... now this guy makes death threats against the Tea Party Leader...
Seems like a clear case of believing lies to me.
YOU made accusations towards the left by claiming that Loughner was a lefty. So, since you are all into retractions of lies and misinformation, how about retracting.
There's nothing wrong with this dude. He's just pissed off and wants to blame someone. He's just like every other dumbass that wants to blame, "The Right". And that, I have zero sympathy for.
At some point, people have to take responsibility for their actions and stop making excuses for doing stupid ****. He should be prosecuted and made an example, just like Loughner.
There's nothing wrong with this dude. He's just pissed off and wants to blame someone. He's just like every other dumbass that wants to blame, "The Right". And that, I have zero sympathy for.
At some point, people have to take responsibility for their actions and stop making excuses for doing stupid ****. He should be prosecuted and made an example, just like Loughner.
You realize this is the exact same thing that people who were going "Oh I don't know, Palin puts crosshairs on this woman and says she needs to be taken out, and then someone shoots her, seems like a clear case to me."
Aunt Spiker, other people got shot by Loughner, none of them threatened somebody who had nothing to so with the shooting. Don't you wonder if, maybe, he's using his status as "victim" to excuse his behavior? I've seen some mention here that they guy already disliked the T party. If he's pissed, I don't blame him, but he's directing it to somebody who doesn't deserve it.*snip*
Wait a minute - on second thought - what the hell is your point, here? Are you actually suggesting that we shouldn't try to rehabilitate people who are suffering from mental illnesses and emotional problems? Gee - let's just throw the baby out with the bathwater, then, yeah?
Fuller is having issues dealing with what happened to him - he needs medical assistance and intervention so he can move on with his life in a *good way* - he's not a thug on a street corner.
If they had given notice and adequate medical intervention and threw Loughner in the psych-ward because he was a proven a threat to OTHERS then Fuller wouldn't even BE injured and struggling to recover right now.
So obviously - YES - the importance of helping those who have MENTAL issues is VERY important.
But an amount of understanding should be extended to Fuller - you don't have to AGREE with him (heavens - I don't) - but people MUST understand that being a victim of a horrible tragedy is VERY hard for the mind to cope with.
People all to often DON'T care and DON'T give such people the medical help they need - and the individual, their families - or others they know - suffer, often with their own lives.
Need I go into suicide and family-homicide horror stories from the countless soldiers who are suffering from PTSD and *don't get help for their mental problems?*
*why* is it that whenever someone is given *medical help* in a psych-ward people ALWAYS toss around the notion that said individual is 'getting off the hook' or 'being coddled'
Have you been institutionalized? Was it fun or something?
The system FAILED to protect Fuller and the many others - I think we at least OWE Fuller *that much* help on his path to real recovery.
Where does this come from? What am I doing again?You're doing it again. Don't claim that people are making arguments that they are not actually making.
You realize this is the exact same thing that people who were going "Oh I don't know, Palin puts crosshairs on this woman and says she needs to be taken out, and then someone shoots her, seems like a clear case to me."
A victim of the Arizona shootings who had been widely quoted in the news media as blaming the massacre on rhetoric from Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin is a known liberal activist who has previously campaigned against Beck.
The victim, James Eric Fuller, was arrested yesterday at a Tuscan town hall meeting after shouting "You're dead!" at Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.
He was charged with making threats, intimidation and disorderly conduct and was involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation, said Pima County Sheriff's Department spokesman Jason Ogan.
Fuller, a 63 year-old disabled military veteran, was shot in the knee and back during the attack that wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and left six people dead and 13 others wounded.
Following the shooting, Fuller gave an interview to the far-left Democracy NOW, in which he did not mince words at apportioning blame for the tragedy.
"It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target," Fuller said.
"Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled – senseless hatred leading to murder, lunatic fringe anarchism, subscribed to by John Boehner, mainstream rebels with vengeance for all, even 9-year-old girls," he added, referring to the death of nine year old Christina Taylor Green.
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Aunt Spiker, other people got shot by Loughner, none of them threatened somebody who had nothing to so with the shooting. Don't you wonder if, maybe, he's using his status as "victim" to excuse his behavior? I've seen some mention here that they guy already disliked the T party. If he's pissed, I don't blame him, but he's directing it to somebody who doesn't deserve it.
Aunt Spiker, other people got shot by Loughner, none of them threatened somebody who had nothing to so with the shooting. Don't you wonder if, maybe, he's using his status as "victim" to excuse his behavior? I've seen some mention here that they guy already disliked the T party. If he's pissed, I don't blame him, but he's directing it to somebody who doesn't deserve it.
Except that there is this sir:
Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.
It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.
The shooter was a Libertarian, socialist and hardcore Atheist :doh
Yeah that's really your typical T-bager :lol:
I hope the SOB gets the maximum punishment afforded under the law just for being a dumbass.
It is the best evidence that the leftists are themselves biggest terrorists.