Austria's Trump-like populist anti-immigration party busted in Russian scandal video

[Athanasius68]

1. The Ukraine government that Manafort was working for was a Kremlin back puppet government.

2. Was Trump saying that Russia should be let back into the G8 an example of Trump being tougher on Russia? Keep in mind that it's the Obama sanctions that Russia was trying to get lifted in the Trump Tower meeting. Is Trump believing Putin over our own intelligence an example of him being tough on Russia?

If you're honestly going to claim that Trump has been tougher on Russia after all the praise he has heaped on Putin then you're no longer a rational person regarding this subject.

1. Not entirely. But in any event, it wasn't Russia for whom Manafort repped.

2. Clinton supported the admission of Russia, and Obama favored its expulsion. However, Russia remains a member of the g-20, which people, who follow this kind of stuff anyhow, say is more important than g-7.
Is sending military aid to Ukraine tougher on Russia than not sending military aid? How about striking energy deals with the Baltic states and Poland, the objective being to undercut their reliance on Russia?

 

[Athanasius68]

You are lying again

Page was hired because of his Russian connections and he wasn't fired. He resigned

It's not clear why the expectation should be that the Trump campaign would hire Russian experts who knew nothing about Russia.

 

[Athanasius68]

That is a very Trumpian lie.

Trump called the Mueller investigation a witch hunt. Many times. But Mueller never claimed that Trump was working with the Russians.

Mueller in fact was quite clear that Trump was NOT working with Russia.
Mueller had no choice in investigating this. It was one of his directives from Rosenstein. In reality, it was the reason why he was appointed.

 

[Helix]

No, the claim has always been that Trump's relationship with Russians and his out of character obsequiousness to Putin warrant investigation.

Just because no video has been found doesn't mean that Trump hasn't been working with Russians through Manafort or directly. We already know he was secretly trying to build a tower in Moscow.

1. The investigation was necessary

2. Russia is an enemy actively trying to undermine and manipulate NATO allies

3. Russia did actively attempt to infiltrate the Trump campaign with some success

4. Just because we don't have video evidence or any concrete evidence doesn't make Trump's behavior any less suspicious and concerning.

don't even waste your time.

 

[ocean515]

Strache is the Vice-Chancellor and members of Austria's populist anti-immigration party. He was forced to resign when a video showed him cutting deals with a Russian oligarch who planned to funnel money into their party.

This is the same way the Russians funneled money into the RNC and NRA and did everything to help Trump's anti-immigration populist party win.

This proves that the Russian probe was no witch hunt. The Russians have been working with far-right politicians around the world to affect elections. The FBI was just doing their job investigating suspicious members of Trump's campaign.



Far-right Austrian vice chancellor resigns after video surfaces showing contract offers to Russian for illegal donations, press coverage - Chicago Tribune

Oh, let me add this...



Sound familiar?

President Trump is not anti-immigration.

As such, your premise and OP is a total FAIL.

These claims are so dishonest, I don't understand why advocates keep using them.

Perhaps you could start a thread about illegal aliens, which would be a more credible discussion.

 

[sangha]

It's not clear why the expectation should be that the Trump campaign would hire Russian experts who knew nothing about Russia.

You are lying again

Page spent most of his career working on Russian affairs

 

[sangha]

Mueller in fact was quite clear that Trump was NOT working with Russia.
Mueller had no choice in investigating this. It was one of his directives from Rosenstein. In reality, it was the reason why he was appointed.

You're lying again

Mueller made it very clear that he was not investigating Trump working with Russia

Therefore Trump could not have called Mueller's claims that Trump was working with Russia a "witch hunt" because Mueller never made that claim

 

[sangha]

don't even waste your time.

I have come to the conclusion that anathawhatever makes it up as he goes with no hesitation about lying

 

[Athanasius68]

You are lying again

Page spent most of his career working on Russian affairs

Ok-- so would it have been better to get a guy as his Russian advisor who spent his career working on USA-Canadian affairs?

 

[Athanasius68]

You're lying again

Mueller made it very clear that he was not investigating Trump working with Russia

Therefore Trump could not have called Mueller's claims that Trump was working with Russia a "witch hunt" because Mueller never made that claim

It's been barelya month and the historical revisionism begins...