If one's morals are dictated by fear, one has no morals.
If you're talking about selfish fear, I agree with you but one's morals can also be based on the unselfish fear of displeasing God, much like fear of displeasing a parent...
If one's morals are dictated by fear, one has no morals.
The consistent Internet Skeptic denies that atheists exist. Can you prove that you're an atheist?As if I care about your opinion on atheism or anybody's opinion on the subject for that matter.
Unlike religious folks, I don't feel any need to 'prove' I don't believe in any god/s.
I consider myself an atheist and I'm alive. What more proof do I need that I exist and therefore atheism exists?
Another foolish god thread.
You apparently figured it out, yes? How hard could it be?Are you ok? Have I upset you with my little joke? I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were so precious. If this sort of response upsets you, then don't post such ridiculous false generalisations in the first place. It's not hard to figure out, or is it?
The consistent Internet Skeptic denies that atheists exist. Can you prove that you're an atheist?
Do Atheists Exist?
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Apparently not.
Not by the standards of Internet skepticism they don't.
At the very least there is no reason to believe that atheists exist.
(This to match the more tempered skeptical claim.)
Internet skeptics demand proof of God's existence.
Internet skeptics jeer at mystery presented as evidence.
Internet skeptics reject personal testimony out of hand.
(I use the word "prove" throughout in the loose sense popularized by Internet skeptics of course.)
So let us turn the tables on the Internet Skeptic.
Let's demand a proof of the existence of atheists.
Let us reject personal testimony as evidence.
(But let's leave the jeering to the Internet Skeptic, yes?)
The purpose and point of this thread is to show the Internet Skeptic the folly of his ways.
(Drum roll please)
because by the standards of the Internet Skeptic
Atheists Don't Exist
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Proofs?
Concessions?
The consistent Internet Skeptic denies that atheists exist. Can you prove that you're an atheist?
Precisely the point of my thread.Not only can I not prove I'm an atheist, I also cannot prove I had a bowel movement this morning but I did and it was crappy.
Why do I even need to prove something I don't feel the need to defend?
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Prove it. What a waste of time.
Welcome to the forum!I have a hard time comprehending what you just posted, logically it doesn't make any sense to me.
I guess I would classify myself as Diest or sometimes an atheist since I have studied many different religions and have a hard time conforming to one faith and frankly I am skeptical of all of them.
Precisely the point of my thread.
You can't prove you're an atheist anymore than a theist can prove he's a theist or prove that God exists. Anyone can claim to be an atheist.So you make up that "the consistent internet skeptic denies that atheists exist", something that is utter nonsense because "the internet skeptic" does not exist. But as we know atheists do exist.
And yes, I can prove I am an atheist because I have been registered in my countries basic civil administration as atheist. On top of being an atheist to begin with.
almost 400 posts and the fact remains atheists exist and the OP, its lies and made up claims has completely failed.Atheists Don't Exist
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You can't prove you're an atheist anymore than a theist can prove he's a theist or prove that God exists. Anyone can claim to be an atheist.
You can't prove you're an atheist anymore than a theist can prove he's a theist or prove that God exists. Anyone can claim to be an atheist.
The nonsense is yours. You've only proved that you are registered as an atheist. Anyone can register as an atheist. Registration does not prove anything except registration. Atheism, like theism, is a matter of heart and mind, a disposition, and while this can be testified to, testimony, according to Internet Skeptical standards, is not proof.Nonsense. I already proved I am an atheist. Just like any catholic in the Netherlands can prove on several ways that they were catholics (first by registration with the government) and they also get registered by the church they are baptized at.
You claims are just not accurate. Not about the internet skeptic or about atheism.
The comparable question would be: Can you prove you are an alien marooned here after your spaceship crashed in area 51?Can you prove you are not an alien marooned here after your spaceship crashed in area 51?
The nonsense is yours. You've only proved that you are registered as an atheist. Anyone can register as an atheist. Registration does not prove anything except registration. Atheism, like theism, is a matter of heart and mind, a disposition, and while this can be testified to, testimony, according to Internet Skeptical standards, is not proof.
As an Internet Skeptic yourself, you should know this.
How can you claim not to be that which you claim has not been defined sufficiently for you to know what it is?1. not an internet skeptic, because you have no provided a definition for it so it is ludicrous to claim that I am one (which I am not)
You claimed as much only. No proof.2. I did prove I am an atheist, 3rd generation atheist, pure and simple.
Worse yet as proof.3. you are not registered as an atheist, you are registered as an atheist at birth.
Tell that to yourself and your fellow Internet Skeptics.4. and your internet skeptical standards is nonsense.
You apparently figured it out, yes?
How hard could it be?
So it couldn't be that hard, as I said in the deleted portion of the post you quote.Of course I did.
Which "simple concepts" are you referring to?You tell me, as you seem to be having trouble understanding simple concepts.
So it couldn't be that hard, as I said in the deleted portion of the post you quote.
Which "simple concepts" are you referring to?
Is this an ad hominem in your book?Infantile ad hominem noted.
Safely vague and general and false. How about one specific example of a "simple concept" I have not understood.Well, I could go on all day based upon all the interactions with you since I returned to this site, but I'll leave it at the false generalisation intended to be an attack on those who question your distorted reasoning.
Is this an ad hominem in your book?
Safely vague and general and false. How about one specific example of a "simple concept" I have not understood.
Oy! I was referring to your "infantile" remark, boss.Yes, as it obviously questions my intellectual capacity.
Another ad hominem in your book?Ok, how about the term 'burden of proof' for a start. Your abuse of the 'False generalisation' is also a valid example. For one who is supposedly interested in philosophy, your grasp of logic is somewhat 'rudimentary'.