"assault weapon" vs Semi auto rifles [W:598]

[calamity]

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Every revolution started with 1 person and spread. So everyone has the right.

True, but they were not owned by the same people. Most of are largest banks donate to both parties almost 50/50. Their is only one logical reason to fund both parties. That is so no matter who we vote for they own the winner. Neither party will turn down their money and neither party will vote against what they want.

You say that like you actually believe the lie that Trump is for the little guy. :lol:

 

[TurtleDude]

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Speaking of: You've never come close to explaining why so many criminals--especially young teens---have such an easy time getting guns.

Hint: it's probably because of the gun policies you and the NRA's ho-dog politicians support. In other words, you all enable them to have access to those guns.

its probably because their parents do a crappy job of raising them

I guess you are clueless about the laws-its illegal for kids to buy firearms. You're still butt hurt over the NRA helping Trump win so you slander that organization with mindless claims of malfeasance on their part.

 

[TurtleDude]

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The FFA of 34 does BAN guns.

actually it doesn't de jure but de facto it was intended to. Its the Hughes Amendment that bans guns-both are clear violations of the Second and Tenth as well as the ninth amendments.

 

[VanceMack]

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No they didn't. Without a standing army, they needed a militia to resist an alien enemy, not themselves. In order to supply enough troops to form a militia, the population had to be armed and trained.

Shouldnt you be more concerned with your own country where British subjects are now being thrown in prison for saying rude things on Facebook?

 

[TurtleDude]

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Yes they did. They were very much aware that any government can become corrupt and need to be forcibly done away with. They had just done that themselves. They discussed the fact that any government can become corrupt and did everything they could think of to stop it. Unfortunately they did not conceive that our government would be one day run by 2 parties that are funded and owned by a very small percent of the richest people in this country. They said this country would not fall to a foreign power but be destroyed from within. It appears not only were they right about how our country would go down the drain but the fact that we one day will have to forcibly take back our government.

people who love big government and worship it as the source of all good, have a real problem even conceiving the fact that government can become pernicious and evil.

 

[TurtleDude]

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Yet they are weapons of massacre and death. Even you agree with that.
How many deaths from massacre does it take for you to call it mass destruction ?

honest people use the term Weapon of mass destruction to mean something that kills hundreds or thousands (at least) with one use. An atom bomb, an ICBM or perhaps a MOAB dropped in an urban area. Release of poison gas killing hundreds with one use. Calling a rifle that might kill=at most-1 or 2 people per use is not a WMD and its bald faced lie to claim it is.

 

[TurtleDude]

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What's the lowest number? Can you establish the tiers for each level in my previous post?

How come no one in the government agrees with you? Government at all levels seems perfectly happy to arm law enforcement with these so called weapons of mass destruction for use against the citizenry. There are almost no controls over the individual cop who has one - no requirement to get clearance to use it from NCA, or even their first level supervisor. They drive around with them in their cars all the time.

Is 32 dead a massacre or mass destruction? Is 19 dead massacre or mass destruction?

when webs of deceit are woven, the spiders have a hard time telling you how the weaving works.

 

[TurtleDude]

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Rinse repeat

when your real reasons for posting are not based on anything having to really do with the subject matter, but rather a political animus towards one group, your responses become silly and miss the obvious: I think that is what he was trying to tell you

 

[TurtleDude]

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This is a thread about Rifles, how has it degenerated into a discussion of pencils and golf balls. -sad

what' sad is the ignorance of so many who want to ban something and they haven't valid reason why

 

[TurtleDude]

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We’re keeping the rifles, and you will get over it.


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People like him will hope men with guns enforce his idea of progress. Without armed forces on their side, the "progressives" would just be pissing up a rope because most gun owners aren't going to get rid of their guns just to save the gun haters laundry bills.

 

[calamity]

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when your real reasons for posting are not based on anything having to really do with the subject matter, but rather a political animus towards one group, your responses become silly and miss the obvious: I think that is what he was trying to tell you

Translation: Since you cannot come up with a reasonable argument defending weapons which cause massive amounts of destruction to the human body, attack the poster.

 

[Pedestrian]

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Would you rather liberals say "we don't want to take away your guns" and enact commonsense gun control, or would you rather fascists say "we didn't want to take away your guns, but we had no choice?"

Being sticklers is not helping the situation. We're going to move forward, like it or not. You have an opportunity to be a part of that progress.

But I am a very logical and fearful stickler and as I've written before that to conclude that a desire for gun control very similar to the
banning of fully auto guns and other weapons is...to 'take all guns away' .....

.....then I can just as or even more easily conclude, that to buy any semi-auto gun with multiple round-magazines...is to kill people.
That in fact is what the gun was designed for...killing people.

We have gun control now and a 2nd amend. We ban any semi-auto, we'd still have a little more gun control...and the 2nd amend.

 

[TurtleDude]

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Translation: Since you cannot come up with a reasonable argument defending weapons which cause massive amounts of destruction to the human body, attack the poster.

since the weapons you are whining about are issued to civilian police, that alone is a complete destruction of your lies

 

[Irwin Corey]

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what' sad is the ignorance of so many who want to ban something and they haven't valid reason why

I don't want to ban anything, you disingenuously quoted a post I corrected in another post, now I know why I put you on ignore ... back you go.

 

[TurtleDude]

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I don't want to ban anything, you disingenuously quoted a post I corrected in another post, now I know why I put you on ignore ... back you go.

you want to impose a defacto ban on many rifle owners with idiotic fees. Ignore me all you want, I will continue to point out how idiotic your anti gun views are.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

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A revolution is usually caused by exploitation, famine, economic or political decline of the collective, not just one individual. One individual alone isn't going to cause or make a revolution. For that, you need a collective of people.


I think you missed the point...the founders had a two or more party system which negates your claim they didn't want or have one.

You missed the point. I did not say the founding fathers didn't have several parties.

1 person can start anything. We have been blessed and cursed by many individuals that changed the world. Where have you been?

Ever hear of MLK?
Ever hear of Hitler?

These are just 2 examples of thousands maybe millions of individuals that started a revolution or significantly changed the world we live in by persuading millions to join in. Some for good and some for evil.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

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You say that like you actually believe the lie that Trump is for the little guy. :lol:

Yea I think he is in it to help the average American. I also believe he relishes the power and notoriety as well. No different than every president before him and after him.

Well he is not in it for the money. He already has the money.

He is clearly not a bought and paid for party puppet.

His days were numbered when he threatened to drain the swamp of corruption both parties have become.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

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people who love big government and worship it as the source of all good, have a real problem even conceiving the fact that government can become pernicious and evil.

I think it is the herd mentality of the sheep. Millions of Germans were not evil people like Hitler but they did support him until the *** hit the fan.

 

[calamity]

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Yea I think he is in it to help the average American. I also believe he relishes the power and notoriety as well. No different than every president before him and after him.

Well he is not in it for the money. He already has the money.

He is clearly not a bought and paid for party puppet.

His days were numbered when he threatened to drain the swamp of corruption both parties have become.

If he really had money, he would not be pulling a bunch of cheap marketing ploys and be up to his eyeballs in debt. :roll:

 

[calamity]

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I think it is the herd mentality of the sheep. Millions of Germans were not evil people like Hitler but they did support him until the *** hit the fan.

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Trump rallies?

 

[Moot]

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You missed the point. I did not say the founding fathers didn't have several parties.

1 person can start anything. We have been blessed and cursed by many individuals that changed the world. Where have you been?

Ever hear of MLK?
Ever hear of Hitler?

These are just 2 examples of thousands maybe millions of individuals that started a revolution or significantly changed the world we live in by persuading millions to join in. Some for good and some for evil.

Um...yes, you did.

Yes they did. They were very much aware that any government can become corrupt and need to be forcibly done away with. They had just done that themselves. They discussed the fact that any government can become corrupt and did everything they could think of to stop it. Unfortunately they did not conceive that our government would be one day run by 2 parties that are funded and owned by a very small percent of the richest people in this country. They said this country would not fall to a foreign power but be destroyed from within. It appears not only were they right about how our country would go down the drain but the fact that we one day will have to forcibly take back our government.

rev·o·lu·tion
noun

1. a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system.
synonyms: rebellion, revolt, insurrection, mutiny, uprising, riot, rioting, insurgence, seizure of power, coup (d'état)
"the French aristocracy was ill-prepared to quell a revolution"


"...Although some explanations of the right of revolution leave open the possibility of its exercise as an individual right, it was clearly understood to be a collective right under English constitutional and political theory.[8]

As Pauline Maier has noted in her study From Resistance to Revolution, “private individuals were forbidden to take force against their rulers either for malice or because of private injuries....”[9] Instead, “not just a few individuals, but the ‘Body of the People’ had to feel concerned” before the right of revolution was justified and with most writers speaking of a “ ‘whole people who are the Publick,’ or the body of the people acting in their ‘public Authority,’ indicating a broad consensus involving all ranks of society.”[10]..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_revolution#Individual_or_collective_right​

A revolution does not consist of one person. There were many people that came before MLK in the civil rights movement....and Hitler did not act alone anymore than Trump did.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

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Trump rallies?

In his mind only.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

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Um...yes, you did.

rev·o·lu·tion
noun

1. a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system.
synonyms: rebellion, revolt, insurrection, mutiny, uprising, riot, rioting, insurgence, seizure of power, coup (d'état)
"the French aristocracy was ill-prepared to quell a revolution"


"...Although some explanations of the right of revolution leave open the possibility of its exercise as an individual right, it was clearly understood to be a collective right under English constitutional and political theory.[8]

As Pauline Maier has noted in her study From Resistance to Revolution, “private individuals were forbidden to take force against their rulers either for malice or because of private injuries....”[9] Instead, “not just a few individuals, but the ‘Body of the People’ had to feel concerned” before the right of revolution was justified and with most writers speaking of a “ ‘whole people who are the Publick,’ or the body of the people acting in their ‘public Authority,’ indicating a broad consensus involving all ranks of society.”[10]..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_revolution#Individual_or_collective_right​

A revolution does not consist of one person. There were many people that came before MLK in the civil rights movement....and Hitler did not act alone anymore than Trump did.

You need to learn how to finish reading a sentence in order to comprehend the meaning. I will explain if you are confused.

I did not say a revolution consist of 1 person. You seem to be very confused.

 

[VanceMack]

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Its truly pathetic. Earlier this month Merriam-Webster changed their definition of 'Assault Rifle' to now fit the anti-gun leftist rhetoric. Which shows that even a company famed solely for being a dictionary doesnt understand the meaning of the word 'integrity'.
As of 31 March, they added a second definition




Definition of assault rifle
: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire; also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

 

[Moot]

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You need to learn how to finish reading a sentence in order to comprehend the meaning. I will explain if you are confused.

I did not say a revolution consist of 1 person. You seem to be very confused.

Um...yeah, you did...right after I said 'the right to revolution' is a collective right'...you responded that it was an individual right to start one. So either you are very confused about what I said...or your argument is a strawman.