I have no idea what the hell this argument is in reference to, but... uh... ok, whatever you say.
Its a reference to the fact that you are asking me to simply take your creditably on Arizona gun law simply because you say they are present. And I'm saying I'm assuming you don't just take everyone at their word when they say they have a certain degree of familiarity with a subject, therefore you're apply a different standard to yourself as you do others.
"I don't know what the answer is, but I know you're not right." That's what I'm hearing here. Guns are a proven crime deterrent. This is not an opinion. This is not up for debate.
You're over simplifying the issue again, we both know guns can work either way for example look at Somalia or Mexico. We also know you are specifically talking about legal guns, not just guns in general. If it were just guns that deterred crime in general, it wouldn't matter if they were acquired legally or illegally. However a central pillar of your argument is that criminals will get guns one way or another, and its the availability of guns to the responsible population that really matters. Its these qualifiers and explanations of your positions you constantly leave out.
"So... communism is a great model for what we should do in the United States? We should give up the majority of our freedoms for the illusion of safety. Got it. Btw, I notice you don't list Germany as an example any more, after I called you on their failed attempt at gun control last time you tried that example.
I was simply trying to show there were other solutions to gun crime, something you refused to admit because of politics. If I'm simply trying to show there is not
only one of something, I only need to demonstrate and show there's just one other. A second example wasn't necessary but Germany still works perfect as a case where stricter gun laws and stricter control has led to less gun crime.
Germany Reevaluates Gun Laws After School Shooting | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 23.11.2006
Also, for the I don't know how many-ith time, I'm not advocating any form of policy and I'm certainly not saying we should adopt a Chinese style system. I am, again explaining this after I dunno many how times, simply trying to show its foolish to simply state no additional or changed gun law will work, especially considering you're clear lack of demonstrated knowledge on Arizona gun law.
Cry me a river. Our views are clearly nothing alike. If you don't wish to take personal responsibility for your safety, that's fine, but don't force your misguided moral code on me and my family.
How many times do I have to say I'm not pushing policy? Listen to me carefully, I'm from Arizona, I own a weapon, and I love my state's gun laws. We suffer low crime in part due to them and much of our crime comes from other sources such as south of the border, but its deterred in places like Phoenix due to people owning weapons. I don't disagree with any of that, I just think its silly to suggest that ANY change and ANY additional gun laws will hurt people.