Are US soldiers mercenaries now?

[Fledermaus]

That is typical rank US propaganda. If you actually listened to Mr Putin, you would see that he and his compatriots are very level headed people unlike the always war mongering US politicians.

Invaded Ukraine.

Illegally annexed Crimea.

Hijacked Ukraine ships.

The list goes on.

 

[Fledermaus]

That doesn't mitigate the US war crimes for those events or the US war crimes for firebombing.

1 million+ Japanese would have died in the invasion and subsequent starvation post war.

Do the math.

 

[Higgins86]

Invaded Ukraine.

Illegally annexed Crimea.

Hijacked Ukraine ships.

The list goes on.

Georgia

supported Assad

killed off or imprisoned political opponents

used nerve agents in a NATO country to kill former spies.

 

[joko104]

In my opinion, our bases in Germany are a continuation of post WW2 occupation - and I believe that occupation should continue.

It was Germany and WW2 that gave rise to the Cold War and the necessity for European bases - so hell yes Germans pay for it because Germans caused it.

 

[Higgins86]

That doesn't mitigate the US war crimes for those events or the US war crimes for firebombing.

Look up the casualties inflicted from taking Okinawa both US and civilian.

 

[Tigerace117]

That doesn't mitigate the US war crimes for those events or the US war crimes for firebombing.

So what should we have done instead? That would have actually caused the Japanese(who, by the way, launched a coup even after being nuked to try and continue fighting) to surrender? That would have cost less lives?

There was no realistic alternative, pure and simple.

 

[ralphcdp]

Look up the casualties inflicted from taking Okinawa both US and civilian.

Look up the casualties from the war crimes of the US firebombings and the US war crimes for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

"I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal ... " Curtis LeMay

 

[Tigerace117]

Look up the casualties from the war crimes of the US firebombings and the US war crimes for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

"I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal ... " Curtis LeMay

Look up the projected casualties for Operation Downfall.....for both sides.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Across the globe we are where we are to protect OUR OWN interests.

NO, our troops are AbsaByGodLutely NOT mercenaries.

 

[Higgins86]

Look up the projected casualties for Operation Downfall.....for both sides.

The mass suicides from Japanese civilians alone would have been staggering

 

[Tigerace117]

The mass suicides from Japanese civilians alone would have been staggering

Not to mention the poor conscripts who were going to get chucked at Sherman tanks with spears. Downfall would have turned Japan into a charnel house.

 

[ralphcdp]

Look up the projected casualties for Operation Downfall.....for both sides.

LeMay was a war criminal.

You can't commit war crimes to lessen the likelihood of casualties. The Japanese would have surrendered but the US didn't want to spend all that money on a nuke and not be able to use it. The US's evil is highlighted by the fact that they didn't even wait to drop the second bomb.

You can't pretend to make the USA out to be something good when they purposefully used the Marshall Islanders as guinea pigs for their radiation tests. When the USA put them on an island they knew full well was badly contaminated for 28 years.

 

[Fledermaus]

LeMay was a war criminal.

You can't commit war crimes to lessen the likelihood of casualties. The Japanese would have surrendered but the US didn't want to spend all that money on a nuke and not be able to use it. The US's evil is highlighted by the fact that they didn't even wait to drop the second bomb.

You can't pretend to make the USA out to be something good when they purposefully used the Marshall Islanders as guinea pigs for their radiation tests. When the USA put them on an island they knew full well was badly contaminated for 28 years.

I highlighted the ignorant opinions.

 

[Tigerace117]

LeMay was a war criminal.

You can't commit war crimes to lessen the likelihood of casualties. The Japanese would have surrendered but the US didn't want to spend all that money on a nuke and not be able to use it. The US's evil is highlighted by the fact that they didn't even wait to drop the second bomb.

You can't pretend to make the USA out to be something good when they purposefully used the Marshall Islanders as guinea pigs for their radiation tests. When the USA put them on an island they knew full well was badly contaminated for 28 years.

Ky& - Wikipedia

There was a coup attempt after the bombs were dropped to try and continue the war! Claiming Japan would have rolled over and surrendered is simply flat out ignorant. Your ignorance is highlighted by the stupidity of your argument.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

The elites of history have regained the initiative due to two in particular struggling their way to the top. Being an elite isn't easy either, it's just easier than is doing it in a democracy.

Deng Xiao Ping told the Chinese what they wanted to hear, i.e., that getting rich is good. And that getting rich again will restore China to its rightful place as lord of the globe.

Vladimir Putin grabbed the Crazy Ivans of Russia by telling 'em Russia is eternal and that it's the United States that's a flash in the pan. And while Russia and China like the USA as a flash in the pan theory, Putin's waiting for China to go the way of the USSR. Russia itself meanwhile continues to fake being a world power.

USA was handling it well on a stable cruising speed until Putin-Trump who are a calculating wrecking crew against the USA. So it's a setback we'll have to resolve by democratic and Constitutional ways and means. We won't do that if democracy in America remains a spectator sport. Democracy has to be participatory to be viable and successful. Given the midterm, so far so good.

Putin-Trump are working against that however so we'll have to see how this develops. Armed forces chiefs and commanders for instance won't act to destroy democracy. The generals will definitely act to restore it however. So while even our best efforts to participate on an even playing field might not be enough, we do have to make the kickoff and then grind forward. We can succeed, yes. But so can Putin-Trump and their Fanboys continue to succeed. Because while we need order and the rule of law to succeed, all they need to continue to accomplish their antidemocratic purposes and goals is continued chaos.

I took your post serious until you started ranting about the conspiracy theory stuff about Trump etc.

 

[Tangmo]

That is typical rank US propaganda. If you actually listened to Mr Putin, you would see that he and his compatriots are very level headed people unlike the always war mongering US politicians.

Watch,

The Coming War On China (John Pilger) | History Documentary | Reel Truth History

YouTube

to see how the US used and still uses Marshall Islanders as radiation test guinea pigs.

Maybe if I have the time and only to study your propaganda.

I say this because you and I can point the finger at the other and say propaganda until the cows come home, i.e., it accomplishes nothing. If everything is propaganda then everything is nothing. That's the logical extension of your saying in virtually your every post, "propaganda."

You demand evidence yet anything that is produced and presented is, well, "propaganda." So you'd need to know I minimize wasting my time on this kind of glib nonsense.

 

[Tangmo]

I took your post serious until you started ranting about the conspiracy theory stuff about Trump etc.

Enjoy your expresso and demitasse.

 

[Casca XV]

No, that's not correct. We spend 200 billion annually on defence, and this is more than enough to be secure. Sadly our defence is poorly organized due to NATO and there is much duplication across Europe, and thus low overall efficiency. So yes, please leave, then we can get alot more for our 200 billion annual defence spending. Streamlining.

And no, defence has nothing to do with socialism in Europe. Defence costs have no influence on that at all.

I guess you have not been keeping up with the news that President Trump is forcing European countries to start paying their fair share of NATO. Now many European countries are collapsing under the weigh of their Socialism. Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

How a Young Joe Biden Became the Architect of the Government’s Asset Forfeiture Program – USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

 

[Casca XV]

Love the stupidity of the blind low IQ right winger.

Venezuela is run by a dictator.

The socialist countries in Europe are run by duly elected representatives, and the programs you speak of are approved of by the people. And the wealth is shared by all of the people, not just a few.

I agree, bring them home. I will bet they are more then willing to come back to this rat hole people like you are creating.

Low IQ? well maybe. But as a Right Winger: I am an Individualist, You as a Left Winger: you are a Collectivist. That is the fundamental difference between the two sides.

Individualism naturally requires a Limited Power Govt. Collectivism requires a Govt running everything, meaning a Govt with a lot of power, meaning a "Dictator."

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

I guess you have not been keeping up with the news that President Trump is forcing European countries to start paying their fair share of NATO. Now many European countries are collapsing under the weigh of their Socialism. Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

How a Young Joe Biden Became the Architect of the Government’s Asset Forfeiture Program – USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page

Right.

Most European countries are less indebted than the US btw. Socialism has nothing to do with it. Seems like Trump is giving Europe an "out" in regard to US troops. A chance to get rid of the occupying force and to stop supporting the US world aggression. Without Europe, the US has no legitimacy when it does it's illegal actions. It only get's this from European support. And without Europe, the US military has a serious problem in regards to it's military overseas, not being able to project power nearly the same way as before. I think Trump knows this, and the purpose of the whole paying for US defence in Europe, is to get Europe to send US troops home. Thus ending US misadventures and illegal wars around the world.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Enjoy your expresso and demitasse.

It's espresso, and thank you, I do enjoy that. Although not as much and often as just a large plain black coffee, but of some quality, not some muddy McDonalds water or any of those other chains.

 

[Casca XV]

Right.

Most European countries are less indebted than the US btw. Socialism has nothing to do with it. Seems like Trump is giving Europe an "out" in regard to US troops. A chance to get rid of the occupying force and to stop supporting the US world aggression. Without Europe, the US has no legitimacy when it does it's illegal actions. It only get's this from European support. And without Europe, the US military has a serious problem in regards to it's military overseas, not being able to project power nearly the same way as before. I think Trump knows this, and the purpose of the whole paying for US defence in Europe, is to get Europe to send US troops home. Thus ending US misadventures and illegal wars around the world.

With the President slashing the spending of the "Administrative State" the debt will start to decrease.

By every measure most of Europe is in a lot of economic trouble. And most of it's due to The President slowly ending their US Gravy train.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

With the President slashing the spending of the "Administrative State" the debt will start to decrease.
By every measure most of Europe is in a lot of economic trouble. And most of it's due to The President slowly ending their US Gravy train.

Right. The world is in economic trouble, the whole economic model is. I would rather hope it's possible to turn it around, but I don't. I don't really see any way the US can turn it around, I don't really see a way European countries can either.

Fiscal mismanagement is the reason for the issues, alongside the doomed economic model. It couldn't have gone any other way actually. Inside the doomed economic model, we could have kept it going much longer, if not for the fiscal mismanagement. Pension is the main killer though, it might be what eventually brings down the whole thing. The whole thing is mathematically impossible. Social costs are high, but it's not the main "problem". and the US is also a socialist state frankly speaking. It has alot of welfare systems.

 

[Tangmo]

It's espresso, and thank you, I do enjoy that. Although not as much and often as just a large plain black coffee, but of some quality, not some muddy McDonalds water or any of those other chains.

Thanks for noting my typo made in haste. Such a stupid misstep on my part helps to keep me humble as I sip my espresso. Never cared much for coffee or tea but espresso does the trick just fine. And while too much coffee is a bummer there's no such thing for me as too much espresso. Odd indeed given espresso is way stronger than almost any coffee on the market. Starbuck's tea in China is identical to the tea the chain serves in USA and it's one of few teas agreeable to me, weak as it is. Chinese are terribly insulted by the weakness of the Starbuck's tea, with ice, and actually rage against it. Chinese take everything personally and both their tea and their rice is super personal to 'em. Chinese are so parochial they think Americans never had rice until we arrive in China. It's a pretty mindless thought actually. Brainless.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Thanks for noting my typo made in haste. Such a stupid misstep on my part helps to keep me humble as I sip my espresso. Never cared much for coffee or tea but espresso does the trick just fine. And while too much coffee is a bummer there's no such thing for me as too much espresso. Odd indeed given espresso is way stronger than almost any coffee on the market. Starbuck's tea in China is identical to the tea the chain serves in USA and it's one of few teas agreeable to me, weak as it is. Chinese are terribly insulted by the weakness of the Starbuck's tea, with ice, and actually rage against it. Chinese take everything personally and both their tea and their rice is super personal to 'em. Chinese are so parochial they think Americans never had rice until we arrive in China. It's a pretty mindless thought actually. Brainless.

I don't know much about tea to be honest. I never got into that, even though I tried it for awhile. I don't understand those people who drink their coffee in starbucks though, they can make better coffee themselves at home! In Europe we have so many small coffee places, I really don't understand why anyone would drink their coffee in such a chain. TBH I dislike it alot, some small local coffee places had to close due to starbucks. Luckily there are many left though.

Try ristretto?