Are today's kids spoiled?

[jaypatriot]

Roger Ailes, former big-wig at Fox news, said a right wing propaganda outlet would "do the thinking for people". Calling them lazy, uneducated...well, I've done that before too, but it really doesn't solve the problem.
Yes, a lot of older, less educated people aren't interested in learning how the modern world works, or about finance, etc. OK...but their support can be won through propaganda. Its' that simple.



But you seem to think that the people influenced by facebook/twitter are idiots, but what about Fox news? Big pharma ads? Rush?
It's "most of the population" jay. I mean, my parents included...you know what I mean? Making you want ot buy a parricular brand of coffee, doesn't sound dangerous to me.
Using lies and rhetoric to run the nation...more problematic.

Yes, banning facebook ads from known-Russian actors, is exactly what occurred, for starters.
Lots of other things we could do, but we'd need to get un-ignorant first. And that's not gonna happen in my lifetime, if ever.

I appreciate your response and you sticking to specific debate points..refreshing around here.

I have no problem at all targeting foreign operators who post political ads designed to sway voters one way or the other. That is against federal law and those FB or Twitter accounts should be deleted. As far as legitimate campaign ads go, if ignorant voters wish to be swayed by flimsy opinions, that is certainly their choice.

 

[BahamaBob]

Your age is showing. I taught school for over 30 years; high school and college. Kids aren't any better or worse than the rest of us, or from previous generations. They follow the same patterns. In some ways they are better; they aren't as racist, they are more accepting of differences, and most of them want to get ahead in the world. I think it's the brats that just get your attention, but they aren't the mainstream. Most kids turn out as well as yours and mine did; good people with good jobs.

And you can't say on one hand that this generation is the best educated ever (though it's not true for many) and then say they're the worst generation ever. Doesn't match up.

First of all, no where did I say they were the worst generation ever. You would think an educator would be able to read.

Second, if you think the current generation is just like any other you are not paying attention to events. I have seen a half dozen or so mass shootings committed by current youth. In fact, homicides by youth is at an all time high. Teenage suicide is at an all time high as well.

 

[vegas giants]

First of all, no where did I say they were the worst generation ever. You would think an educator would be able to read.

Second, if you think the current generation is just like any other you are not paying attention to events. I have seen a half dozen or so mass shootings committed by current youth. In fact, homicides by youth is at an all time high. Teenage suicide is at an all time high as well.

When I was growing up it was teenage drug use that was the all time high.


Every generation does this

 

[BahamaBob]

When I was growing up it was teenage drug use that was the all time high.


Every generation does this

It shows

 

[vegas giants]

It shows

Yes. It does show in every generation.


Homicidal...huh?

 

[Mason66]

It's not like kids have a good example today in the nation's top representative. Most parents usher children out of the room if he's on TV. If they behaved like him, they'd be suspended all the time.

Perhaps the larger concern here is "wtf happened to Trump's generation?"

Has any child ever looked at the President as a role model?

 

[ecofarm]

Has any child ever looked at the President as a role model?

It's not a choice a kid makes. A kid is told, "this is the leader of our country and the free world".

 

[Mason66]

It's not a choice a kid makes. A kid is told, "this is the leader of our country and the free world".

I can't see a 5 year old caring who the President is much less what he does.

 

[Mason66]

It's probably a variety of reasons, because family situations tend to be somewhat unique.

I've had my stints with my parents in the past (more so my mom), but I never treated my momma or father with that amount of disrespect, and I still wouldn't. That video is beyond the pale, and I can't believe some parents get it to be that bad. But honestly, those cases on Dr. Phil need actual therapy, not being thrust onto a TV Show for ratings. But that's another thing altogether.

My son tried that once. Once.

I told him he couldn't go out and play with the soccer ball. he said he was going out anyway.

I took a knife and cut the ball in half. He was upset about that, but I told him he shouldn't have challenged me with that ball.

He hasn't done anything like that again.

 

[Mason66]

That really depends on how far you take it. Like, unlike with my mom, who irritates me because she has something to say about what I'm wearing, or how my hair looks, blah blah blah. My dad doesn't do any of that, and I actually have zero problem talking to him about anything super personal, and I just have an overall more relaxed demeanor around my dad. As a consequence, I like hanging out with my dad more than with my mom. I feel like I always have a guard up with my mom, and our relationship is still strained to an extent.

I think 100% friend is a bit too far, but mutual understanding goes a long way to strengthen a parent-child relationship, I think.

I know you used superficial examples here, but does your mother comment on your looks because she herself is a woman?

I was dating a woman that had a lot of nieces. It always bothered me that the family would only comment on their looks when they came over. Not one time did anybody ask them how they were doing in school or if they needed any help doing better.

Long term does that kind of treatment tell a girl that the only thing important is her looks?

 

[ecofarm]

I can't see a 5 year old caring who the President is much less what he does.

"Who's that?"

"Our President."

"What's he doing?"

"Making fun of disabled people."

 

[Mason66]

The most common problem I see with "kids today" are parents that make threats they have no intention of ever following through on. At some point the kids realize the parent is full of ****.

That is a very Mexican thing to do.

I hear mothers all the time saying to their kids "te pego". They never do so the kid doesn't care what his mom says, he does what he wants anyway.

 

[ecofarm]

That is a very Mexican thing to do.

Have you seen Trump's birth certificate?

 

[Mason66]

Have you seen Trump's birth certificate?

Who cares about his birth certificate?

You have a real problem.

 

[Mason66]

And awareness of laws that scare parents because kids know they can cry child abuse to social services or police if they are sent to bed with no TV, really helps.

My girlfriends 9 year old daughter tried that once.

She said she was going to call the number.

I told her, you want to see real abuse, go ahead, call the number. Do you want me to dial it for you?

She never brought it up again.

In case you were going to ask, no she was not being abused. She didn't get something she wanted.

 

[vegas giants]

My girlfriends 9 year old daughter tried that once.

She said she was going to call the number.

I told her, you want to see real abuse, go ahead, call the number. Do you want me to dial it for you?

She never brought it up again.

In case you were going to ask, no she was not being abused. She didn't get something she wanted.

So you threatened her with child abuse.


Wow

 

[Vadinho]

Parents, more and more, don't say 'no' or discipline their kids at a very young age, so they become spoiled little monsters as teenagers.

I watched my sister raise her child with absolutely no discipline, manners and never said no. They were terrified of her outbursts. At 23 now, she's been arrested twice for road rage, agg battery, and a few other felonies. Her parents paid a fortune for her bond and when I asked my sister, "I bet you wished you had raised her different, she said no. I don't think all of today's children are raised to be brats but there's far more of it than the preceding decades. What's the cause(s)?

Kids always have always acted out. The only difference now is we do not beat them when they do. Are kids spoiled? Every generation over the last 200 years has been accused of this sin of progress. The kid that once went to work in a textile mill at 8 no longer exists, does that mean kids that were not working at 8 were spoiled in comparison? I guess so but I am sure glad they were spoiled.

 

[americanwoman]

That is a very Mexican thing to do.

I hear mothers all the time saying to their kids "te pego". They never do so the kid doesn't care what his mom says, he does what he wants anyway.

Mexican mothers not following through or not being strict and authoritan? :lol: I know many chanclas that would disagree.

 

[beancounter]

My father thought I was spoiled, and I think my son is spoiled.

It's a generational thing...

 

[Mason66]

So you threatened her with child abuse.


Wow

How did you get that from what I said?

 

[Mason66]

Mexican mothers not following through or not being strict and authoritan? :lol: I know many chanclas that would disagree.

Maybe some, but it is a growing trend to not follow through. It is hard to even go into a store to shop without kids running around crazy with no action from the parents.

 

[americanwoman]

Maybe some, but it is a growing trend to not follow through. It is hard to even go into a store to shop without kids running around crazy with no action from the parents.

Maybe as a result of having those strict and authoritan parents these newer ones are going the opposite way?

 

[The AntiDonald]

Yes, kids are spoiled.
Everyday, I monitor the children walking to and from school.
Just waiting for them to step out of line or, worse yet, step on my lawn.
I'm always ready with a water hose....ha-ha...just kidding....maybe.
Kids are spoiled, entitled little punks....except for my wonderful grandchildren.

I was raised by very strict parents. My dad was a Marine and mom was a stay at home mom. There were 4 kids, two boys, two girls. When discipline was warranted, it was administered. Now granted I've had my bad moments in life. But the main thing I think I retained was respect for my elders.

In my day, you did not even go in someone else's yard without first getting permission. I am appalled at what these neighborhood punks do these days.

A well groomed respectable teen is real hard to find nowadays.

 

[justabubba]

Socrates famously spoke about how kids were spoiled in his time

Socrates (469–399 B.C.) QUOTATION: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households.

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[grip]

Maybe some, but it is a growing trend to not follow through. It is hard to even go into a store to shop without kids running around crazy with no action from the parents.

The parents were so bad at letting their kids destroy store property in my business that I would tell the kids real loud, so the unattentive mother would hear, "Mommy is going to have to pay $300 if you break that!"

Talk about making a parent control their kid fast.