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So many things has been discovered by archeology - interesting finds that relate to things written in the Bible.

They're still digging....and discovering....


Here are what were found so far.....




King Hezekiah in the Bible: Royal Seal of Hezekiah Comes to Light


The stamped clay seal, also known as a bulla, was discovered in the Ophel excavations led by Dr. Eilat Mazar at the foot of the southern wall of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

The bulla, which measures just over a centimeter in diameter, bears a seal impression depicting a two-winged sun disk flanked by ankh symbols and containing a Hebrew inscription that reads “Belonging to Hezekiah, (son of) Ahaz, king of Judah.”

Hezekiah, son and successor of Ahaz and the 13th king of Judah (reigning c. 715–686 B.C.E.), was known for his religious reforms and attempts to gain independence from the Assyrians.



In Aspects of Monotheism: How God Is One (Biblical Archaeology Society, 1997), Biblical scholar P. Kyle McCarter, Jr., summarizes Hezekiah’s religious reforms:

According to 2 Chronicles 29–32, Hezekiah began his reform in the first year of his reign; motivated by the belief that the ancient religion was not being practiced scrupulously, he ordered that the Temple of Yahweh be repaired and cleansed of niddâ (impurity). After celebrating a truly national Passover for the first time since the reign of Solomon (2 Chronicles 30:26), Hezekiah’s officials went into the countryside and dismantled the local shrines or “high places” (bamot) along with their altars, “standing stones” (masseboth) and “sacred poles” (’aásûeµrîm). The account of Hezekiah’s reform activities in 2 Kings 18:1–8 is much briefer. Although he is credited with removing the high places, the major reform is credited to Josiah (2 Kings 22:3–23:25).


Hezekiah’s attempts to save Jerusalem from Assyrian king Sennacherib’s invasion in 701 B.C.E. are chronicled in both the Bible and in Assyrian accounts. According to the Bible, Hezekiah, anticipating the attack, fortified and expanded the city’s walls and built a tunnel, known today as Hezekiah’s Tunnel, to ensure that the besieged city could still receive water (2 Chronicles 32:2–4; 2 Kings 20:20).
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/
 
DEAD SEA SCROLLS



One of the most important finds of in the field of biblical archaeology is the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947 in the Qumran area on the northwest shore of the Dead Sea. There are approximately 900 documents and fragments that comprise the find. The scrolls predate A.D. 100 and include a complete copy of the book of Isaiah. The significance of the find is the age of the documents and the astonishing lack of variants to documents that have been most trustworthy such as the Masoretic Text, Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus. The vast majority of the variants (about 99 percent) are punctuation or spelling errors. Incredibly, none of the variants changed the meaning of the text, nor did they contain any significant theological differences.

This gives us the assurance that the text we have today in our Bible is the same as the early church had two thousand years ago. No other secular manuscripts can make the same claim.
https://www.gotquestions.org/biblical-archaeology.html





"Probably the Dead Sea Scrolls have had the greatest Biblical impact. They have provided Old Testament manuscripts approximately 1,000 years older than our previous oldest manuscript. The Dead Sea Scrolls have demonstrated that the Old Testament was accurately transmitted during this interval. In addition, they provide a wealth of information on the times leading up to, and during, the life of Christ." -- Dr. Bryant Wood



The seven original scrolls, from what came to be called "Cave One," comprised the following:

a well-preserved copy of the entire prophecy of Isaiah—the oldest copy of an Old Testament book ever to be discovered
another fragmentary scroll of Isaiah
a commentary on the first two chapters of Habakkuk—the commentator explained the book allegorically interms of the Qumran brotherhood
the "Manual of Discipline" or "Community Rule"—the most important source of information about the religious sect at Qumran—it described the requirements for those aspiring to join the brotherhood
the "Thanksgiving Hymns," a collection of devotional "psalms" of thanksgiving and praise to God
an Aramaic paraphrase of the Book of Genesis
the "Rule of War" which dealt with the battle between the "Sons of Light" (the men of Qumran) and the "Sons of Darkness" (the Romans?) yet to take place in the "last days," which days the men of Qumran believed were about to arrive.


Those seven original scrolls were just the beginning. Over six hundred scrolls and thousands of fragments have been discovered in the 11 caves of the Qumran area. Fragments of every Biblical book except Esther have been found, as well as many other non-Biblical texts.
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/po...portance-of-the-Dead-Sea-Scrolls.aspx#Article
 
CRUCIFIED MAN



How Jesus died: Extremely rare evidence of Roman crucifixion uncovered in Italy
Although attested to in scores of historical writings, this skeleton is only the second example providing tangible archaeological proof of the cruel method of capital punishment
https://www.timesofisrael.com/extre...ence-of-roman-crucifixion-uncovered-in-italy/



A Tomb in Jerusalem Reveals the History of Crucifixion and Roman Crucifixion Methods
The tomb of Yehohanan contains first physical evidence of crucifixion in antiquity
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...of-crucifixion-and-roman-crucifixion-methods/
 
KETEF HINNOM AMULETS


Numbers 6:24–26 contains one of the central passages of Scripture, known as the “Priestly” or “Aaronic” Benediction:

The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn His face toward you and give you peace.

Evidence for the antiquity of this passage has now been found.


Excavations in Jerusalem in 1979–80 by Gabriel Barkay turned up two amulets dating from the late seventh century BC.1 They were found in the fourth of several burial caves he discovered on an escarpment known as Ketef Hinnom, which overlooks the Hinnom Valley (Gehenna) just opposite Mt. Zion. Each amulet contained a rolled-up sheet of silver which, when unrolled, revealed the Priestly Benediction inscribed on them. The exact Hebrew words (translated into English) are:

May Yahweh bless you and keep you;
May Yahweh cause his face to
Shine upon you and grant you
Peace (Coogan 1995: 45).



Commented the late archaeologist Kathleen Kenyon:

This is now the earliest occurrence of a Biblical text in an extra-Biblical document, significantly predating the earliest of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It is also the oldest extra-Biblical reference to YHWH, the God of Israel (1987: 124; cf. King and Stager 2001: 306)


Michael D. Coogan, professor of religious studies at Stonehill College in Massachusetts, similarly remarked that the two amulets are evidence of the antiquity of traditions preserved in the Bible; it also provides indirect evidence, as do the Dead Sea Scrolls and other manuscripts from the Second Temple period, of the accuracy of scribes who for centuries copied sacred texts (1995: 45).


Especially interesting to note is the fact that the words of the blessing, including the sacred personal name of God, were written on silver. This sheds light on Psalm 12:6: “The words of the LORD [= YHWH] are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace...” Barkay’s discovery thus shows this verse to be literally true as well as spiritually..
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2010/01/06/The-Blessing-of-the-Silver-Scrolls.aspx#Article
 
THE SONS OF JACOB: New Evidence for the Presence of the Israelites in Egypt


Note: a long article with detailed explanation.



Archaeological Evidence

The Israelites and Rameses

When Jacob and his family migrated to Egypt, they were settled in “the land of Rameses.” The Bible tells us, in fact, that they became property owners there (Gn 47:11, 27). During their time in Egypt, the Israelites were used as slave laborers to build the city of Rameses (Ex 1:11), and when they left after 430 years (Ex 12:40), they departed from Rameses (Ex 12:37). From these references, we can conclude that the Israelites spent the years of the Egyptian Sojourn in and around Rameses.

Although the location of Rameses was in dispute for some years, that dispute has now been settled. We not only know where Rameses was located, but we know much about the history of the ancient site. Extensive excavations have been undertaken there under the direction of Manfred Bietak of the Austrian Archaeological Institute, Cairo, since 1966 (for previous reports, see Shea 1990: 100–103; Wood 1991: 104–106; Aling 1996: 20–21). It is possible that Prof. Bietak may have, for the first time, found physical evidence for the presence of the Israelites in Egypt.


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All of these data support the historicity of the biblical record concerning Jacob, his 12 sons, and the later tribes of Israel.

https://www.biblearchaeology.org/po...sence-of-the-Israelites-in-Egypt.aspx#Article
 
That archaeologist who set out to look for Bible stuff under Jerusalem of all places, found a seal of Isiah the prophet right near that other one. How "lucky"!
 
So if we discover london then that must mean sherlock holmes actually existed.

How about if we discover chimneys then surely santa must exist.

Good fiction writing is based on facts Not facts are based on fictional characters in the bible.
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Just by what you think are "analogies" to the article, is a dead give-away that you hadn't even read the article.


And.....obviously, you have no clue as to what cumulative evidences might mean.
You most likely have no clue at all that such term exists.
For your edification - it means corroborating evidences.
If you don't know what "corroborating" means, go look it up.



If you have nothing substantial to say, go elsewhere.
 
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So if we discover london then that must mean sherlock holmes actually existed.

How about if we discover chimneys then surely santa must exist.

Good fiction writing is based on facts Not facts are based on fictional characters in the bible.

Not sure...but if you're in the theology section, you get to STFU about your atheist stuff. ;) Dem's the rules, bud. I'm telling you, rather than reporting, because I assume you're not here to be a dick, but simply because you got lost. It's ok, happens to me sometimes. :)

That archaeologist who set out to look for Bible stuff under Jerusalem of all places, found a seal of Isiah the prophet right near that other one. How "lucky"!

hehe...would be interesting to see what a future civilization would think of a cache of anything... "I don't believe in Manc Skipper...I mean, look at all these cache of porn mags, right near each other. How "lucky"." Not saying you're right, not saying you're wrong, but unless you have proof of forgery.... :shrug: Could be anything.

Thing is, I don't need any of this for my faith. I tend to look at these archeological finds with a grain of salt, because I think a lot of the time they are "found" by folks who really need a physical something to justify their faith - which, of course, isn't faith.

What about you? Do you need this kind of thing for your faith (I assume you have one, since you're in the Theology forum), or is it just a bit of interesting speculation?
 
ISAIAH'S SIGNATURE




Excavations in Jerusalem have unearthed what may be the first extra-Biblical evidence of the prophet Isaiah. Just south of the Temple Mount, in the Ophel excavations, archaeologist Eilat Mazar and her team have discovered a small seal impression that reads “[belonging] to Isaiah nvy.” The upper portion of the impression is missing, and its left side is damaged. Reconstructing a few Hebrew letters in this damaged area would cause the impression to read, “[belonging] to Isaiah the prophet.”

Mazar’s team found the seal impression in an undisturbed area of Iron Age debris (dated to the eighth–seventh centuries B.C.E.) right outside the southeastern wall of the royal bakery, a structure that had been integrated into the city’s fortifications and had operated until the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem in 586 B.C.E.

“Because the bulla has been slightly damaged at end of the word nvy, it is not known if it originally ended with the Hebrew letter aleph,” explains Mazar, “which would have resulted in the Hebrew word for ‘prophet’ and would have definitively identified the seal as the signature of the prophet Isaiah. The absence of this final letter, however, requires that we leave open the possibility that it could just be the name Navi. The name of Isaiah, however, is clear.”



The close relationship between the prophet Isaiah and King Hezekiah is reflected in the Hebrew Bible. Hezekiah, who ruled from c. 727–698 B.C.E., relied on Isaiah’s counsel throughout his reign—and especially when Jerusalem was besieged by Assyria.


The seal impressions of Isaiah and King Hezekiah were found less than 10 feet apart in the Ophel excavations. If the recently identified bulla does indeed bear the prophet Isaiah’s signature, it seems fitting that it should be found so close to Hezekiah’s personal seal impression. Their legacy—together—continues even after death.
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...the-bible/prophet-isaiah-signature-jerusalem/
 
THE CITY OF SHAARAIM




Remains of a Biblical city, dated to the times of David. Its name means "two gates", which were actually found in the excavations. Recent excavations at Khirbet Qeiyafa (also known as the "Elah fortress"), situated on a north hill above the valley of Elah, have unearthed a fortified city with two four-chamber gates. It is dated to the end of the Iron Age I and beginning of the Iron Age II period. This dating, the unique findings, and the location - all support the identity of the site as the Biblical Sha'araim.



Biblical



The city of Sha'arayim ("two gates") was one of the cities of the tribe of Judah (Joshua 15: 20, 35-36): "This is the inheritance of the tribe of the children of Judah according to their families.... Socoh, and Azekah, And Sharaim,...".


It is also mentioned in Chronicles, as part of the list of cities occupied by the tribe of Simeon, who co-shared cities with Judah until the reign of David (1 Chronicles 4:31): "The sons of Simeon ... at Bethbirei, and at Sha'araim. These were their cities unto the reign of David".



The city also appeared in the Biblical account of the aftermath of the battle between David and Goliath of Gath. This famous battle is detailed in the web page of the Valley of Elah. According to the Bible, Sha'araim is located near the place of the battle in the valley of Elah (1 Samuel 17: 52): "And the men of Israel and of Judah arose, and shouted, and pursued the Philistines, until thou come to the valley, and to the gates of Ekron. And the wounded of the Philistines fell down by the way to Sha'araim, even unto Gath, and unto Ekron".



The archaeologists found Iron Age floors in each excavated area (A,B,C,D). Only a single Iron Age phase was found, dated to the early Iron IIa period (1000-925 BC) - the times of Judean Kings David and Solomon.



Sha'araim was probably the largest Iron age IIa city in Judea, and was abandoned during the end of the Iron age IIa - at about 925BC. It came to an end in a sudden destruction. The reasons for the destruction was either by war, earthquake or other reasons.
https://biblewalks.com/sites/Shaaraim.html
 
THE TEL DAN STELA AND THE KINGS OF ARAM AND ISRAEL




Tel Dan Inscription, the first royal inscription from the kingdom period to be found in Israel. Fragment A (right) was discovered in 1993 and Fragment B (left) was discovered one year later. Dated to ca. 841 BC, the original inscription named at least eight Biblical kings.


The most stunning aspect of the document is the reference to Judah as the “House of David.”
For the first time, it was thought, the name David appeared in an extra-Biblical document. At about the same time, however, two French scholars, André Lemaire (1994) and Émile Puech (1994), independently recognized the same phrase in the Mesha Inscription, which has been around for well over 100 years (Wood 1995). It now likely that the name David is in a third inscription. Egyptologist K.A. Kitchen believes that the phrase “highland of David” appears in the Shishak inscription in the Temple of Amun at Karnak, Egypt (1997: 39–41). All this at a time when a number of scholars were challenging the existence of the United Monarchy and a king name David!
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/po...n-Stela-and-the-Kings-of-Aram-and-Israel.aspx
 
SEAL IMPRESSION OF JERUSALEM GOVERNOR




Past and present collided last week when an extremely rare seal impression discovered in Jerusalem’s Western Wall plaza and bearing the inscription “Belonging to the governor of the city” was presented to Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat.

According to site excavator Dr. Shlomit Weksler-Bdolah, “This is the first time that such an impression was found in an authorized excavation. It supports the biblical rendering of the existence of a governor of the city in Jerusalem 2,700 years ago.”

At the presentation, Barkat said, “It is very overwhelming to receive greetings from First Temple-period Jerusalem. This shows that already 2,700 years ago, Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, was a strong and central city.”




The bottom section reads, in early Hebrew script: “Belonging to the governor [sar] of the city.”
Weksler-Bdolah explains that the governor most likely functioned much like today’s mayor. The role is referenced in the Hebrew Bible: in 2 Kings, Joshua is listed as the governor of the city in the days of Hezekiah, and in 2 Chronicles, Maaseiah is noted as governor of the city in the days of Josiah.

“The Bible mentions two governors of Jerusalem, and this finding thus reveals that such a position was actually held by someone in the city some 2700 years ago, said Weksler-Bdolah.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/2700-...nts-existence-of-biblical-jerusalem-governor/
 
Not sure...but if you're in the theology section, you get to STFU about your atheist stuff. ;) Dem's the rules, bud. I'm telling you, rather than reporting, because I assume you're not here to be a dick, but simply because you got lost. It's ok, happens to me sometimes. :)



hehe...would be interesting to see what a future civilization would think of a cache of anything... "I don't believe in Manc Skipper...I mean, look at all these cache of porn mags, right near each other. How "lucky"." Not saying you're right, not saying you're wrong, but unless you have proof of forgery.... :shrug: Could be anything.

Thing is, I don't need any of this for my faith. I tend to look at these archeological finds with a grain of salt, because I think a lot of the time they are "found" by folks who really need a physical something to justify their faith - which, of course, isn't faith.

What about you? Do you need this kind of thing for your faith (I assume you have one, since you're in the Theology forum), or is it just a bit of interesting speculation?

I have no religious belief, but have an interest in the abuse of archeology in this way. There's a whole industry who set out with a specific goal of "proving" the Bible. Any scrap or fragment of a find is interpreted to support the tales told in a heavily edited and redacted 2000 year old storybook. There are also "ancient aliens" crowd, who again seek proof, but this time of an alien civilisation who visited Earth in the distant past and were so advanced they were treated as Gods, who gave us intelligence, and also left strange "clues" to their existence.
There's a curious logic that if some of the names/events depicted can be substantiated or the people named can be shown to have existed, then all the magic stuff must be true too. What archeological evidence for a miracle can there be?
The ultimate irony is the odd belief that science can "prove" faith. If you have proof, then faith is unnecessary, since the supporting evidence exists.
 
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So many things has been discovered by archeology - interesting finds that relate to things written in the Bible.

They're still digging....and discovering....


Here are what were found so far.....





https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/

took a brief look; seems like a cool site. my grandma used to get a biblical archeology magazine, and i enjoyed reading it as a kid. going to check out more of this site when i get some time.
 
I have no religious belief, but have an interest in the abuse of archeology in this way. There's a whole industry who set out with a specific goal of "proving" the Bible. Any scrap or fragment of a find is interpreted to support the tales told in a heavily edited and redacted 2000 year old storybook. There are also "ancient aliens" crowd, who again seek proof, but this time of an alien civilisation who visited Earth in the distant past and were so advanced they were treated as Gods, who gave us intelligence, and also left strange "clues" to their existence.
There's a curious logic that if some of the names/events depicted can be substantiated or the people named can be shown to have existed, then all the magic stuff must be true too. What archeological evidence for a miracle can there be?
The ultimate irony is the odd belief that science can "prove" faith. If you have proof, then faith is unnecessary, since the supporting evidence exists.

You’re wrong. Illium (Troy) was dismissed as a myth, but then it was discovered. This proves the existence of the Greek gods.
 
You’re wrong. Illium (Troy) was dismissed as a myth, but then it was discovered. This proves the existence of the Greek gods.

One morning last week, my wife said I had been like a Greek God the previous night in bed. I looked at her with an inquiring eye, and she then said "you snored loud enough to wake the dead." Now, there's proof for you.
 
One morning last week, my wife said I had been like a Greek God the previous night in bed. I looked at her with an inquiring eye, and she then said "you snored loud enough to wake the dead." Now, there's proof for you.

:giggle1:
 
I have no religious belief, but have an interest in the abuse of archeology in this way. There's a whole industry who set out with a specific goal of "proving" the Bible. Any scrap or fragment of a find is interpreted to support the tales told in a heavily edited and redacted 2000 year old storybook. There are also "ancient aliens" crowd, who again seek proof, but this time of an alien civilisation who visited Earth in the distant past and were so advanced they were treated as Gods, who gave us intelligence, and also left strange "clues" to their existence.
There's a curious logic that if some of the names/events depicted can be substantiated or the people named can be shown to have existed, then all the magic stuff must be true too. What archeological evidence for a miracle can there be?
The ultimate irony is the odd belief that science can "prove" faith. If you have proof, then faith is unnecessary, since the supporting evidence exists.

Or, it could just be cool for people to see the stories they were told validated in the real world. This is a religion that is practiced by 2.2 billion people around the world. It can't all be bull****... ;) It's cool to see things validated, it's interesting. :shrug: What's in it for you to jump all over it? Again, this is the theology sub forum. You got your whole section to tell us we're crazy. :)
 
Jerusalem Burial Cave Reveals: Names, Testimonies of First Christians

"One of the first-century coffins found on the Mt. of Olives contains a commemorative dedication to: "Yeshua" = "Jesus". Bagatti also found evidence which clearly indicated that the tomb was in use in the early part of the first century AD. Inside, the sign of the cross was found on numerous first-century coffins"

Photos included in the article.

Jerusalem Burial Cave Reveals Names, Testimonies of First Christians
 
JERICHO







When we compare the archaeological evidence at Jericho with the Biblical narrative describing the Israelite destruction of Jericho, we find a quite remarkable agreement.



First, a few words about the Israelite crossing of the Jordan River. The Bible describes the crossing of the Jordan River in vivid and very explicit language:


The waters coming down from above stood and rose up in a heap far off, at Adam, the city that is beside Zarethan, and those flowing down toward the sea of the Arabah, the Salt Sea, were wholly cut off; and the people passed over opposite Jericho" (Joshua 3:16).

The Jordan was apparently blocked at Adam, modern Damiya, some 18 miles upstream from the fords opposite Jericho. How could this happen? Historians and Bible scholars have focused on the "miraculous" nature of the event, with little regard for the seismology of the southern Jordan Valley. In fact, the blocking of the Jordan has happened a number of times in recent recorded history. Jericho is located in the Rift Valley, an unstable region where earthquakes are frequent. Geophysicist Amos Nur of Stanford University has studied the well-documented earthquakes of this area in an effort to find ways to predict them. He has noted several earthquakes that caused phenomena quite similar to what is described in the Book of Joshua:

Today Adam is Damiya, the site of the 1927 mud slides that cut off the flow of the Jordan. Such cutoffs, typically lasting one to two days, have also been recorded in A.D. 1906, 1834, 1546, 1267, and 1160.40

The 1267 C.E. mudslide was recorded by the Arab historian Nowairi. He writes that a large mound on the west side of the Jordan at Damiya fell into the river damming it up. No water flowed south from Damiya for 16 hours. In the 1927 quake, a section of a cliff 150 feet high collapsed into the Jordan near the ford at Damiya, blocking the river for some 21 hours.




Now let us turn to the remains of the city itself. One of the most intriguing questions about the story in Joshua concerns the location of Rahab’s house. We know her house had a roof exposed to the elements because she hid the spies under some flax that was drying there (Joshua 2:6). It was also built against the city wall, thus facilitating the escape of the spies: "Then she let them down by a rope through an opening, for her house was at the surface of the wall, since she lived within the wall" (Joshua 2:15).


Remnants of the final phase of City IV were also found on the southeast slope, just above the spring, by both Garstang and Kenyon. What Garstang and Kenyon found here is most revealing. Garstang dug a large area, about 115 feet by 165 feet, which he called the "palace storeroom area"; Kenyon found remains from the final phase of City IV only in two excavation squares (H II and H III). The results reveal that City IV was massively destroyed in a violent conflagration51 that left a layer of destruction debris a yard or more thick across the entire excavation area.52 Again, we will let Kenyon describe the calamity:

The destruction was complete. Walls and floors were blackened or reddened by fire, and every room was filled with fallen bricks, timbers, and household utensils; in most rooms the fallen debris was heavily burnt, but the collapse of the walls of the eastern rooms seems to have taken place before they were affected by the fire."53

The last observation in this quotation suggests that an earthquake preceded the conflagration. This description may be compared with the Biblical account. According to the Bible, after the Israelites gained access to the city, they "burned the city with fire and all that was therein" (Joshua 6:24). In short, after the collapse of the walls – perhaps by earthquake – the city was put to the torch.



The most abundant item found in the destruction, apart from pottery, was grain.
As noted above, both Garstang and Kenyon found large quantities of grain stored in the ground-floor rooms of the houses.
54 In her limited excavation area, Kenyon recovered six bushels of grain in one season!55 This is unique in the annals of Palestinian archaeology.

But in the case of Jericho the Israelites were told that "the city and all that is within it shall be devoted to the Lord for destruction," and they were commanded, "Keep yourselves from the things devoted to destruction" (Joshua 6:17-18).

So the Israelites were forbidden to take any plunder from Jericho.
56 This could explain why so much grain was left to burn when City IV met its end.
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/po...-New-Look-at-the-Archaeological-Evidence.aspx
 
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Just by what you think are "analogies" to the article, is a dead give-away that you hadn't even read the article.


And.....obviously, you have no clue as to what cumulative evidences might mean.
You most likely have no clue at all that such term exists.
For your edification - it means corroborating evidences.
If you don't know what "corroborating" means, go look it up.



If you have nothing substantial to say, go elsewhere.

Where did i speak of analogies? Perhaps it is you ho needs to look up the meaning of words.

And no, you do not have corroborating evidence. You have what any fiction writer has, some facts to bulk up a fictional story. All you are doing is adding on your superstitious beliefs to some artifacts.
 
Where did i speak of analogies? Perhaps it is you ho needs to look up the meaning of words.

And no, you do not have corroborating evidence. You have what any fiction writer has, some facts to bulk up a fictional story. All you are doing is adding on your superstitious beliefs to some artifacts.

Seriously, what's so hard to understand:

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Not sure...but if you're in the theology section, you get to STFU about your atheist stuff. ;) Dem's the rules, bud. I'm telling you, rather than reporting, because I assume you're not here to be a dick, but simply because you got lost. It's ok, happens to me sometimes. :)



hehe...would be interesting to see what a future civilization would think of a cache of anything... "I don't believe in Manc Skipper...I mean, look at all these cache of porn mags, right near each other. How "lucky"." Not saying you're right, not saying you're wrong, but unless you have proof of forgery.... :shrug: Could be anything.

Thing is, I don't need any of this for my faith. I tend to look at these archeological finds with a grain of salt, because I think a lot of the time they are "found" by folks who really need a physical something to justify their faith - which, of course, isn't faith.

What about you? Do you need this kind of thing for your faith (I assume you have one, since you're in the Theology forum), or is it just a bit of interesting speculation?

Go ahead and report i have not broken any rules by pointing out that the reasoning used is based on association and not causation. I am attacking his reasoning not his religion. Or is the use of logic and reason to be deemed automatically an attack on religious belief? Or possibly you are saying that this particular forum is only for those ho agree with all that is said? o religious people not have differences of opinions?

Again, let me lay out the mistake being made. If in the future they find a bunch of superman comics they would be foolish indeed to just assume a superman existed. Just as it is foolish to think sherlock holmes existed simply because there is a london. If he can demonstrate the actual magical properties of any object then he might have something. But to simply hold up a royal seal and say it as the one mentioned in the bible so therefor go exists is not good reasoning. It is simply layering on a fictional belief to an object.
 
Go ahead and report i have not broken any rules by pointing out that the reasoning used is based on association and not causation. I am attacking his reasoning not his religion. Or is the use of logic and reason to be deemed automatically an attack on religious belief? Or possibly you are saying that this particular forum is only for those ho agree with all that is said? o religious people not have differences of opinions?

Again, let me lay out the mistake being made. If in the future they find a bunch of superman comics they would be foolish indeed to just assume a superman existed. Just as it is foolish to think sherlock holmes existed simply because there is a london. If he can demonstrate the actual magical properties of any object then he might have something. But to simply hold up a royal seal and say it as the one mentioned in the bible so therefor go exists is not good reasoning. It is simply layering on a fictional belief to an object.


Ok... :shrug:
 
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