AOC Hits it out of the Park again

[sangha]

Amazon deal helps New York, which in turn, helps her constituents. That isn't debatable.

No, it wouldn't help her constituents

 

[NWRatCon]

Obviously, but I guess that more than qualifies you to use it in an example...


Here is where your example went wrong.



Let's call "Criminal Banking Operations" Set B and "White Collar Crime" Set A. Set B is a Subset of Set A.

However, you're implying that when Set A declines, Set A also declines. This would imply that Set A is also a subset of Set B, which means they are equal.

It's quite possible for two sets to be equal to one another; in other words, "proper subsets." However, your own data refutes this notion.

If only you would have thought about your position more clearly, we wouldn't be in this situation.



I dunno. Sounds like your logic left apart the moment you said "Sets and Subsets..."

Sorry, you missed the operative function: inference. Reference my last post. Read for understanding.

 

[Tanya]

You were obviously referring to the general election because you referred to the total number of voters in her district and they can't all vote in the Democratic primary

Either that or you don't understand how primaries work

I don't know how many can or cannot vote in the primary. All I said was 17,000 relative to 700,000 registered voters. The district votes heavily democrat. It's not incorrect to assume that the vast majority can vote in the primary.

There is an American saying about making assumptions...

 

[Hedgology]

Sorry, you missed the operative function: inference. Reference my last post. Read for understanding.

Math isn't about inference; math is about what you can prove through induction. You inferred incorrect information based on your misunderstanding of set theory.

 

[Tanya]

The point is that jumping a turnstile, an act that has a minimally detrimental effect, can send you to prison while the actions of GS, which had significant detrimental effects, are perfectly legal

These are apples and oranges comparisons. They only make sense in the minds of the financially illiterate.

Which is pretty much why Dimon pretty much told her to "ask a lawyer." They will tell you the same.

 

[Deuce]

Amazon deal helps New York, which in turn, helps her constituents. That isn't debatable.

It’s debatable and what does she have to do with it in the first place?

 

[noonereal]

No, it wouldn't help her constituents

Well, technically you are correct as it was the Amazon deal was not in her district but still, it would have benefited her district too, just not as directly.

I support AOC in principle but her stance on the Amazon deal was awful.

The VAST majority of people did want Amazon.. Less than 20% were against it.

 

[Grokmaster]

Boy, your third grade education is showing...

Boy, your lameass "English Major" is showing.

Big hands...small phone.


I did far better in Life than The Spelling Police on an internet forum, like you.


BS in Chemistry, University of Missouri Rolla, 1977. Now known as the Missouri Institute of Science and Technology.


Neither YOU, OR AOC, could have even earned ADMISSION THERE, much less into the Bachelor of Sciences program(s).

 

[noonereal]

It’s debatable and what does she have to do with it in the first place?

Really not much except that after the fact she applauded a big mistake and she gets all the attention nationally.

 

[Tanya]

It’s debatable and what does she have to do with it in the first place?

$27 billion in tax revenue, tens of thousands of jobs... Not sure who this math is working in your mind.

The only reason why we are still talking about it is because someone mentioned that she, unlike Trump, has shown a "willingness to learn." I merely replied, "No, she hasn't. She still defends her actions on the Amazon deal."

 

[NWRatCon]

I'm going to clarify my last post, and explain your error, then I'm done with the deflection:

Let's call "Criminal Banking Operations" Set B and "White Collar Crime" Set A. Set B is a Subset of Set A.

However, you're implying that when Set A declines, Set [B -edit] also declines. This would imply that Set A is also a subset of Set B, which means they are equal.

No, it doesn't. When I said "inferentially", I clearly meant, "not provably" (in a mathematical sense) - but you knew that. You want to apply a different standard to confuse the obvious meaning. I get that, it's why it is called "deflection." The point was quite obvious - when "white collar prosecution resources" decline, it generally (inferentially) applies to all subsets of the category, which would include "criminal banking operations". It is possible that within the category of "white collar crime" resources might be steered specifically to "criminal banking activities", but not likely. The rest is just smoke (to put it politely).

 

[Deuce]

Boy, your lameass "English Major" is showing.

Big hands...small phone.


I did far better in Life than The Spelling Police on an internet forum, like you.


BS in Chemistry, University of Missouri Rolla, 1977. Now known as the Missouri Institute of Science and Technology.


Neither YOU, OR AOC, could have even earned ADMISSION THERE, much less into the Bachelor of Sciences program(s).

Missouri :lamo

 

[Deuce]

$27 billion in tax revenue, tens of thousands of jobs... Not sure who this math is working in your mind.

The only reason why we are still talking about it is because someone mentioned that she, unlike Trump, has shown a "willingness to learn." I merely replied, "No, she hasn't. She still defends her actions on the Amazon deal."

You bought all that propaganda, did you?

What actions?

 

[sangha]

I don't know how many can or cannot vote in the primary. All I said was 17,000 relative to 700,000 registered voters. The district votes heavily democrat. It's not incorrect to assume that the vast majority can vote in the primary.

There is an American saying about making assumptions...

First, there's only 405,000 registered voters in her district.

Second, many of them are inactive

Third, she received more votes, in both the primary and the general election, than anyone else in her district

Fourth, she received more votes, in both the primary and the general election, than anyone in her district had ever received

Tanya's conclusion: AOC is not popular

 

[sangha]

These are apples and oranges comparisons. They only make sense in the minds of the financially illiterate.

Which is pretty much why Dimon pretty much told her to "ask a lawyer." They will tell you the same.

Once again, the point escapes you

 

[noonereal]

Neither YOU, OR AOC, could have even earned ADMISSION THERE, much less into the Bachelor of Sciences program(s).

I am willing to bet dollars to donuts you are dead wrong.

Few realize Miss Cortez came in second in the Microbiology category of the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on the lifespan of the nematode C. elegans.

She even has a small asteroid named after her for her work.

Do you?

A thought. Sometimes social skills are better learned than is science. (if you catch my meaning)

 

[Grokmaster]

Missouri :lamo

Beautiful state.

Average SAT : 1262...SIXTH in the NATION.


And?

 

[Tanya]

I admit, I get frustrated.

Fair. We all get frustrated. There are my frustrations with YOU.

1) Kudos for acknowledging that you are not an expert on some things. However, if you're going to be using a snide tone, you better be able to make error free points. You haven't been able to do this.

When someone who should know better pretends not to understand; when someone gets so fixated on their own point of view they refuse to accept any other input; when someone covers their lack of knowledge with obfuscation and deflection.

I probably don't know whatever it is that you're referring to. But guess what, whatever that subject is has no relation to the argument. You tried to point out how they were, and failed miserably.

Yes, I get frustrated. I get annoyed when the same point is made over and over without any substance, or someone pretends to have knowledge that they don't elucidate because it makes them seem smarter. Sometimes I overreact. Sometimes... it's just about right.

No one is claiming to be "smarter" and the same points are being made over and over because you have yet to address them.

 

[Tanya]

Once again, the point escapes you

It's not a good point. Not every premise is a good premise; not every argument is a strong argument. Surely, you must realise this.

 

[Deuce]

Beautiful state. And?

And I can’t help but notice you still think her only job was bar tending. You blindly accept right wing propaganda and didn’t even take two minutes to check on any of it. You didn’t even know what her major was.

 

[Deuce]

It's not a good point. Not premise is a good premise; not every argument is a strong argument. Surely, you must realise this.

Yours is quite weak. Turnout for her was above average. What data do you use to claim she is unpopular? Surely your strong argument is backed up by data.

 

[noonereal]

What data do you use to claim she is unpopular?

Likely the "personal hate matrix."

although it could be the "Fox put it in his head" phenomena.

 

[Grokmaster]

Yours is quite weak. Turnout for her was above average. What data do you use to claim she is unpopular? Surely your strong argument is backed up by data.

I know...it's "MATH"; have one of the smarter kids help with it.

Most voters stayed home for stunning Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez win



the race that caused an earthquake in the Democratic Party, 28-year-old newcomer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez upset longtime Rep. Joe Crowley, 57 percent to 42 percent.

But only about 13 percent of registered Democrats turned out to vote in the 14th Congressional District that takes in parts of Queens and the Bronx, according to a preliminary city Board of Elections tally.

Most voters stayed home for stunning Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez win

 

[Tanya]

First, there's only 405,000 registered voters in her district.

Second, many of them are inactive

Third, she received more votes, in both the primary and the general election, than anyone else in her district

Fourth, she received more votes, in both the primary and the general election, than anyone in her district had ever received

Okay. It appears I was mistaken about the total number registered voteres in NY-14. First point well taken.

Second, third and fourth points I've already acknowledged.

Tanya's conclusion: AOC is not popular

This isn't my conclusion.

 

[Tanya]

Yours is quite weak. Turnout for her was above average. What data do you use to claim she is unpopular? Surely your strong argument is backed up by data.

You are addressing a completely different arugment.