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anti vaxers spread disease

Captain Adverse said:
You seem to think your personal opinion of other's has special merit.

Still, you are of course entitled to any opinion you wish.

I am free to not give a **** :shrug:
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I don't believe in God, but I do respect the Ten Commandments. Sounds like you don't.
 
Russell797 said:
I don't believe in God, but I do respect the Ten Commandments. Sounds like you don't.
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Really?

You don't seem to know the Ten Commandments either. Short form:

1. I am the LORD thy God, No other gods before me
2. No graven images or likenesses
3. Not take the LORD's name in vain
4. Remember the sabbath day
5. Honour thy father and thy mother
6. Thou shalt not kill
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness
10. Thou shalt not covet

Strange. I don't see anywhere it saying "Thou shalt vaccinate or suffer My wrath" in there. Go figure. :shrug:

Oh wait! Here's where YOU try to say "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is the applicable command. :naughty

Not quite. The command applies to willful murder, (and in Hebrew it also means intentionally destructive behavior i.e. willful intent to harm).

Now let me say something else. SURPRISE! SURPRISE! I actually have no problems personally about vaccination.

I was vaccinated for Polio, I had whole series of vaccinations while in the Army. I recognize that if I want to travel overseas I am required to take certain vaccinations in order to do so. I have no problem with Tetanus boosters. Etc.

Nope! My argument is for CHOICE! I can choose NOT to travel overseas and thus avoid vaccinations. I can choose to get Flu shots, but I personally opt not to because I don't catch colds...so why make myself intentionally ill for no reason?

I am all about individual liberty, therefore I oppose government compulsion when it comes to the most important Liberty...how one governs the vessel of their consciousness, their own human body.

So if people don't want to be vaccinated, they should not have to be. However, choices have consequences and members of the rest of society can then act to accept or reject further association with them.

That's freedom of association, freedom of expression, freedom, Period!

So I will never support compulsory impositions on an individual's right to choose what goes in or out of their own bodies. :no:
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Tsk! Tsk!

You really have no arguments, do you.

Just attempts at snappy come-backs and weak ad hominem comments.

Simply an observation, take it any way you wish. :coffeepap:
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Seems I actually need protection from you on several levels
 
Captain Adverse said:
Really?

You don't seem to know the Ten Commandments either. Short form:

1. I am the LORD thy God, No other gods before me
2. No graven images or likenesses
3. Not take the LORD's name in vain
4. Remember the sabbath day
5. Honour thy father and thy mother
6. Thou shalt not kill
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness
10. Thou shalt not covet

Strange. I don't see anywhere it saying "Thou shalt vaccinate or suffer My wrath" in there. Go figure. :shrug:

Oh wait! Here's where YOU try to say "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is the applicable command. :naughty

Not quite. The command applies to willful murder, (and in Hebrew it also means intentionally destructive behavior i.e. willful intent to harm).

Now let me say something else. SURPRISE! SURPRISE! I actually have no problems personally about vaccination.

I was vaccinated for Polio, I had whole series of vaccinations while in the Army. I recognize that if I want to travel overseas I am required to take certain vaccinations in order to do so. I have no problem with Tetanus boosters. Etc.

Nope! My argument is for CHOICE! I can choose NOT to travel overseas and thus avoid vaccinations. I can choose to get Flu shots, but I personally opt not to because I don't catch colds...so why make myself intentionally ill for no reason?

I am all about individual liberty, therefore I oppose government compulsion when it comes to the most important Liberty...how one governs the vessel of their consciousness, their own human body.

So if people don't want to be vaccinated, they should not have to be. However, choices have consequences and members of the rest of society can then act to accept or reject further association with them.

That's freedom of association, freedom of expression, freedom, Period!

So I will never support compulsory impositions on an individual's right to choose what goes in or out of their own bodies. :no:
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Fortunately this is one case where the law and the courts went with the science and not the mythology
 
Captain Adverse said:
Really?

You don't seem to know the Ten Commandments either. Short form:

1. I am the LORD thy God, No other gods before me
2. No graven images or likenesses
3. Not take the LORD's name in vain
4. Remember the sabbath day
5. Honour thy father and thy mother
6. Thou shalt not kill
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness
10. Thou shalt not covet

Strange. I don't see anywhere it saying "Thou shalt vaccinate or suffer My wrath" in there. Go figure. :shrug:

Oh wait! Here's where YOU try to say "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is the applicable command. :naughty

Not quite. The command applies to willful murder, (and in Hebrew it also means intentionally destructive behavior i.e. willful intent to harm).

Now let me say something else. SURPRISE! SURPRISE! I actually have no problems personally about vaccination.

I was vaccinated for Polio, I had whole series of vaccinations while in the Army. I recognize that if I want to travel overseas I am required to take certain vaccinations in order to do so. I have no problem with Tetanus boosters. Etc.

Nope! My argument is for CHOICE! I can choose NOT to travel overseas and thus avoid vaccinations. I can choose to get Flu shots, but I personally opt not to because I don't catch colds...so why make myself intentionally ill for no reason?

I am all about individual liberty, therefore I oppose government compulsion when it comes to the most important Liberty...how one governs the vessel of their consciousness, their own human body.

So if people don't want to be vaccinated, they should not have to be. However, choices have consequences and members of the rest of society can then act to accept or reject further association with them.

That's freedom of association, freedom of expression, freedom, Period!

So I will never support compulsory impositions on an individual's right to choose what goes in or out of their own bodies. :no:
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For me the gist of the 10 Commandments is how they teach to respect others. Your very comments indicate that you don't "give a ****" what I think, and what I think is that we all should behave with concern for the effects our behaviours have on others....get it?

You and I are on the same page with regard to voluntary vaccination. I agree entirely with your stance concerning "compulsory impositions" on a person's body. I am not for mandatory vaccination programs...I am for imposed exclusion from public participation as a consequence however.

However, don't tell me you don't "give a ****". You are better than that. That was said out of anger I presume.
 
apdst said:
If your kids are vaccinated, then there isn't a problem...right?
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You don't understand how vaccinations work. Do you?

I am not surprised to see that though. :lol: Not at all.
 
katzgar said:
your anti science is useless
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Yeah. For a split second there, I was tempted to explain the whole herd immunity theory thing to him, but then I realized who I was talking to and said, "why the **** bother?"

And, knowing that I would have to explain to someone like that why some people cannot be immunized or may not be protected from vaccinations would be a complete waste of time, I doubled down on that thought.
 
katzgar said:
its simple vaccs keep people from getting a disease
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So, if your kid is vaccinated he won't get sick. If he does, the vaccine didn't work.
 
katzgar said:
read the article I posted
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I don't need to read an article to know that if a vaccinated child catches the disease he was vaccinated against, that the vaccine didn't work.
 
SV40. More people have adverse reactions than people who get the disease. If you wish to compel people to vaccinate you have an obligation to guarantee its not contaminated and they wont be harmed by it. Until that time its just fear mongering and self centered.


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apdst said:
I don't need to read an article to know that if a vaccinated child catches the disease he was vaccinated against, that the vaccine didn't work.
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true but I cant imagine a comment more irrelevant. No vacc is 100%.
 
Aberration said:
SV40. More people have adverse reactions than people who get the disease. If you wish to compel people to vaccinate you have an obligation to guarantee its not contaminated and they wont be harmed by it. Until that time its just fear mongering and self centered.


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Your post belongs in the conspiracy theory section. Ask that it be moved.
 
apdst said:
Because you have no argument. We knew that, already.
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People who deny the efficacy of vaccines are not worth my time.
 
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