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Anthropomorphic Extinction, the Current Great Dying

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joG said:
I wonder, if this will take us down.
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It leaves life vulnerable. If we get hit by an outside extinction event right after we kill off 3/4 of the species on earth, there is a good chance that this will finish it off.

Diversity is the key to survival and continuing with evolution. What we are doing is actually counter to evolution because we are killing off the strong and replacing it with vulnerable genetically modified creatures and other life forms. In a sense, we are filling the planet with things that stand little to zero chance of surviving on their own. Hell, many of our crops now do not even generate seeds and modern livestock is incapable of breeding on its own.

It's truly disastrous. It took 14 billion years to get to this point, and we are destroying it within two centuries.
 
The sad part is the overall denial by organized groups that refuse to face the facts. Spreading the information is a good thing and may lead to action, but if recent history is any indication, action will not be forthcoming. As I stated in another forum, it would appear that man is like a virus upon the Planet Earth. Spreading and growing exponentially and bringing havoc in every area it occupies. Sad.
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DaveFagan said:
The sad part is the overall denial by organized groups that refuse to face the facts. Spreading the information is a good thing and may lead to action, but if recent history is any indication, action will not be forthcoming. As I stated in another forum, it would appear that man is like a virus upon the Planet Earth. Spreading and growing exponentially and bringing havoc in every area it occupies. Sad.
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The key to survival for a successful virus is to not kill the host before it can spread to the next victim. However, there may well be a sweet spot where the virus can kill nearly everyone off by spreading around the globe only because it kills its host slow enough to allow the host to travel to the next village.

The thing to maybe hold onto is the fact that some small percentage is going to be immune to the virus. Cockroaches, zebra mussels and certain weeds, like Kuzu, appear to be immune to humans. So, something will probably survive us. But, it won't be pretty.
 
calamity said:
There were smarter ways to control population and consumption. But, peeps are not very smart. So we missed the boat.
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These are educated people on the left like the UT professor raving about extinction

So they are not stupid but clearly a little bit insane
 
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calamity said:
There were smarter ways to control population and consumption. But, peeps are not very smart. So we missed the boat.
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Let's hear these "smarter ways to control population and consumption".
 
countryboy said:
Let's hear these "smarter ways to control population and consumption".
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Native North Americans seem to have been a good model for both, at least they were until the over-crowded, all consuming Europeans showed up.
 
Mac77 said:
These are educated people on the left like the UT professor raving about extinction

So they are not stupid but clearly a little bit insane
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No more insane than giving someone with cancer chemo in hopes of killing the disease before the treatment kills the patient.
 
calamity said:
It leaves life vulnerable. If we get hit by an outside extinction event right after we kill off 3/4 of the species on earth, there is a good chance that this will finish it off.

Diversity is the key to survival and continuing with evolution. What we are doing is actually counter to evolution because we are killing off the strong and replacing it with vulnerable genetically modified creatures and other life forms. In a sense, we are filling the planet with things that stand little to zero chance of surviving on their own. Hell, many of our crops now do not even generate seeds and modern livestock is incapable of breeding on its own.

It's truly disastrous. It took 14 billion years to get to this point, and we are destroying it within two centuries.
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Maybe that is the point of it all. ;)
 
calamity said:
No more insane than giving someone with cancer chemo in hopes of killing the disease before the treatment kills the patient.
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Actually the environmentalists are far more insane since they want to apply chemo to the entire human race in order to save the planet for the birds and crickets
 
calamity said:
Native North Americans seem to have been a good model for both, at least they were until the over-crowded, all consuming Europeans showed up.
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I was asking for an actual description.
 
Mac77 said:
Actually the environmentalists are far more insane since they want to apply chemo to the entire human race in order to save the planet for the birds and crickets
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Not all humans, just some, OK a lot. Call it culling.
 
Mac77 said:
I think many leftwingers are truely insane

Some of them even dream of a world where 90% of humans have died as a way to save the whales and snale darters

To Save the Planet, Kill 90 Percent of People Off, Says UT Ecologist - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Um, it's not so much about saving whales, it's about saving the planet. At this rate, these mass extinctions will reduce the ability of our planet to produce. The consolidation of the gene pool will make any major disaster event that much more catastrophic and difficult to recover from.

All our resource and environmental problems, pollution, energy, food, fresh water, etc. could all be ameliorated by a reduction in population. Yes, this type of solution is discussed in academic circles in the philosophy of science, particularly environmental science. It is about putting the current resource utilization in the framework of a sustainable population. How many people would need to die for our current lifestyle to remain sustainable by our planets ability to produce?

Professor Pianka is a bit of an odd ball for taking the thought experiment so seriously, but it seems that helps force a discussion of the topic, doesn't it?
 
Threegoofs said:
True.

It could be Gods way of trying to present more and more dramatic facts to greedy right wingers that they need to start paying attention to science, which is Gods way of revealing the world to us.
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So do you want me to start paying more attention to science or superstition?
 
calamity said:
I'm sure this is not what God had in mind.

Nice interactive below to scroll through sums up the 6th mass extinction, one caused exclusively by man.

The extinction crisis is far worse than you think

A few other follow up articles.

Imagine a world without giraffes - CNN.com

The old man and the bee - CNN.com

EDGE :: Top 100 EDGE Amphibians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
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Hi Calamity,

I already discussed in an other thread why this video from CNN is very bad. It really is. It is all based on extrapolation of data which is already not very accurate. And the presentation is also bad. According to the graph with population density on Earth we have a population density of about 2 billion people in the Netherlands v.s the actual 17 million that live here.

I've seen you be a little over concerned before. But if this is the kind of article that gets you there than you are making yourself crazy mate. I share your concern, but this is bad information that gives bad ideas that are not true. Yes, some animals die because of us. But not that many, nor is it going to be that many.


Joey
 
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