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Another First For Female Soldiers [W:266]

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Tigerace117 said:
Sorry I'm not gullible enough to buy your conspiracy theory bs Henrin. You know, if your beloved dicatators ever learned not to just randomly launch air strikes in desperate attempts to beat their own people back down they'd be a lot better off.

Sorry buddy, but you are one of the few people who still buys the "Gaddafi as hero of the masses" ****
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How is something that is actually written in Hillary's e-mails to France a conspiracy theory?
 
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Henrin said:
How is something that is actually written in Hillary's e-mails to France a conspiracy theory?
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Gee buddy, where exactly are the words "Gaddafi is launching his airstrikes but we are going to intervene because of GOLD lol" written
 
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William Rea said:
Yes it is.
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In the meaning that our country is ran by democracy yes but the supreme law is not democratic it's constitutional.

Technically our country is not a democracy it is a constitutional republic. We simply elect our legislators democratically
 
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Jredbaron96 said:
Not really. Most junior enlisted are independent or moderates, and the officer corps is split roughly 50/50. Typically the general staff tend to be more Republican, while junior officers tend to be more liberal.
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I suppose it depends on where you are at. My unit from my experience is probably 95% conservative to one extent or another. Similar but probably not quite as high for back when I was infantry. Though I easily see the non combat MOSs being less conservative.
Out of curiosity do you have any actual stats to back up your numbers.
 
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braindrain said:
I suppose it depends on where you are at. My unit from my experience is probably 95% conservative to one extent or another. Similar but probably not quite as high for back when I was infantry. Though I easily see the non combat MOSs being less conservative.
Out of curiosity do you have any actual stats to back up your numbers.
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Partly out of what I've seen from where I've been stationed, but here's some actual reports: Does the Military Vote Really Lean Republican? | TIME.com

Unfortunately most of the one's I've seen are a few years old, and most recent polls I've found just gauge Presidential approval rather than party or ideological support.

Speaking from my own experience people tend to be largely independent in their views. They may say they lean from one side to the other, but their actual views don't really reflect it.
 
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Jredbaron96 said:
Partly out of what I've seen from where I've been stationed, but here's some actual reports: Does the Military Vote Really Lean Republican? | TIME.com

Unfortunately most of the one's I've seen are a few years old, and most recent polls I've found just gauge Presidential approval rather than party or ideological support.

Speaking from my own experience people tend to be largely independent in their views. They may say they lean from one side to the other, but their actual views don't really reflect it.
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Yeah as you yourself noted that is rather outdated. It does claim that as of 06 only 3% of officers claim to be liberal. And as to enlisted it really doesn't have any evidence one way or the other outside of some SGTs opinion.

My actual experience seems to be the opposite of yours. Most fellow service members I know really don't claim to lean one way or the other but the vast majority have either conservative or libertarian views on most things. Like I said I am sure the type ofMOS and unit you are in can greatly effect it.
 
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This thread is really entertaining, please... continue.

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Henrin said:
The US is not a democracy. :lol:
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https://www.reference.com/government-politics/type-government-america-9a48e0411ab8f62e

lol...hmm...well, technically I suppose you're right, a constitutional democratic republic is a little different than a pure democracy...but on this one, given that no one campaigning on reneging on the whole "women are equal" thing is getting voted into power in such a way as to repeal such initiatives, the result is the same. lol...even when hairsplitting you lose. Wanna give up? I've got the whole week off, so I can play as long as you like.
 
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OlNate said:
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/type-government-america-9a48e0411ab8f62e

lol...hmm...well, technically I suppose you're right, a constitutional democratic republic is a little different than a pure democracy...but on this one, given that no one campaigning on reneging on the whole "women are equal" thing is getting voted into power in such a way as to repeal such initiatives, the result is the same. lol...even when hairsplitting you lose. Wanna give up? I've got the whole week off, so I can play as long as you like.
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You realize that no one would want to take women out of military roles even if they were against it, right? You should look up political suicide. Women make up the majority of the voting population and the majority of women support it. Oh and your women are equal bit is a joke when it comes to the military. Women were put in because it was politically expedient, not because it was smart or that anyone thought women would measure up to their male counterparts.

I also love how you lose on topics and then declare victory based off something different.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I hope she's happy. I don't really find this to astonishing. Here in the western world we don't really hold women back. Good for her. I'm sure it's not an easy achievement for anybody. But the fact that she's a woman doesn't really matter.
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Apparently, you haven't been reading the posts in this thread. ;)
 
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it's just me said:
Everybody belongs in the kitchen, there's bacon in the kitchen.
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Fun fact: Most the top chefs are men. Which actually sense since men eat more than women and thus probably have a better understanding of food.
 
Dragonfly said:
Apparently, you haven't been reading the posts in this thread. ;)
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To me it doesn't matter. To the military it doesn't matter. There are people that will be bothered by anything. If it was a black man it would bother some people of it was a gay man out would bother some people if it was a Jewish man it would bother since people. On and on. I wouldn't pay much mind to tat type
 
CLAX1911 said:
To me it doesn't matter. To the military it doesn't matter. There are people that will be bothered by anything. If it was a black man it would bother some people of it was a gay man out would bother some people if it was a Jewish man it would bother since people. On and on. I wouldn't pay much mind to tat type
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Of course, men are interested in protecting women and it's frankly their natural role to protect the community. Women should not be fighting to protect the community unless there is no choice. If you disagree with that being their natural role then please share why men have always been in that role and why they are still to do this day better at it.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
In the meaning that our country is ran by democracy yes but the supreme law is not democratic it's constitutional.

Technically our country is not a democracy it is a constitutional republic. We simply elect our legislators democratically
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Yes, it's called a 'representative democracy', it is what most countries have.
 
Henrin said:
Of course, men are interested in protecting women and it's frankly their natural role to protect the community. Women should not be fighting to protect the community unless there is no choice.
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Well thus particular woman in this particular community wishes to. The community doesn't seem to take issue with it. Thus no issue exists.

If you disagree with that being their natural role then please share why men have always been in that role and why they are still to do this day better at it.
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I don't disagree with this being the natural role.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well thus particular woman in this particular community wishes to. The community doesn't seem to take issue with it. Thus no issue exists.
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The community is ignorant. They believe that units are made more effective by it and yet there is no proof of them being right about that. In fact, the evidence suggests the exact opposite. Everyone is so caught in equality that they are ignoring their own instincts and sense. If men want to protect women then it's obvious that will get in the way. If women are inferior at the job then it's obvious they will make up the bottom of the barrel more times than not and not do much to help overall. Strong units are not made by ignoring human nature and promoting inferiority.

People are so caught up in wanting no gender roles at all that they are ignoring their own nature. I can't imagine it's wise to ignore human instinct and inclinations just because you want to obtain some level of equality.
 
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Henrin said:
The community is ignorant. They believe that units are made more effective by it and yet there is no proof of them being right about that. In fact, the evidence suggests the exact opposite. Everyone is so caught in equality that they are ignoring their own instincts and sense. If men want to protect women then it's obvious that will get in the way. If women are inferior at the job then it's obvious they will make up the bottom of the barrel more times than not and not do much to help overall. Strong units are not made by ignoring human nature and promoting inferiority.

People are so caught up in wanting no gender roles at all that they are ignoring their own nature. I can't imagine it's wise to ignore human instinct and inclinations just because you want to obtain some level of equality.
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For goodness sake get a grip on yourself. It's one woman you're acting like it's the unraveling of reality itself.

In the bigger scheme of things it makes no differences.
 
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Henrin said:
Fun fact: Most the top chefs are men. Which actually sense since men eat more than women and thus probably have a better understanding of food.
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Fun fact: there are more male chefs because of attitudes like yours - the guys don't think the women are strong enough to work the hours and do the heavy lifting. Seriously.
 
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