Another Fake Marxist Narrative that Women Don't Value Men Who Can Provide

[Brochacholomigo]

In what universe is this a "Marxist narrative"?

Signed,

A Marxist

Mashmont is our village idiot, and his primary job is confusing liberalism with Marxism. I've noticed that he always runs away when actual Marxists confront him, so he's clearly playing his role around here on purpose, which I find odd as hell. Most conservatives on here can barely fathom the idea of letting someone else get the last comment, no matter how badly they humiliate themselves.

 

[COTO]

No, the beef is not really the issue. The guy didn't understand how women weren't going for him since he could provide for them. Then the article shows polling that claims women put the ability for the man to provide way down on the list. I just don't buy it.

I think you're reading too much into a puff piece. :shrug:

Women look at emotional stability as well as physical stability when choosing mates. Part of emotional stability is a modicum of emotional sophistication, and "Come hither, ladies, for I've steak aplenty," in a very public Twitter rant doesn't cut it.

It's unfortunate. He may be a nice, reliable, upright guy with lots of love to give.

One more reason I'll never use Facebook or Twitter.

 

[Mashmont]

I think you're reading too much into a puff piece. :shrug:

Women look at emotional stability as well as physical stability when choosing mates. Part of emotional stability is a modicum of emotional sophistication, and "Come hither, ladies, for I've steak aplenty," in a very public Twitter rant doesn't cut it.

It's unfortunate. He may be a nice, reliable, upright guy with lots of love to give.

One more reason I'll never use Facebook or Twitter.

I used to take 'puff pieces' at face value. Now I always look for the agenda, and I usually see where there might be one. I don't think women are going to be so obvious and crass to admit they're in it for the money/security. But that's what they're wired to want.

If I hadn't fallen victim to the Alan Alda syndrome in my early 20s and paid the price, I might not be so convinced as I am.

 

[Mashmont]

Mashmont is our village idiot, and his primary job is confusing liberalism with Marxism. I've noticed that he always runs away when actual Marxists confront him, so he's clearly playing his role around here on purpose, which I find odd as hell. Most conservatives on here can barely fathom the idea of letting someone else get the last comment, no matter how badly they humiliate themselves.

You'll never find where I've run away from a debate. I don't win all the debates I win by running.

 

[COTO]

I used to take 'puff pieces' at face value. Now I always look for the agenda, and I usually see where there might be one. I don't think women are going to be so obvious and crass to admit they're in it for the money/security. But that's what they're wired to want.

If I hadn't fallen victim to the Alan Alda syndrome in my early 20s and paid the price, I might not be so convinced as I am.

I get enough grief from the overtly and unashamedly anti-male pieces out there to go hunting for feminist overtones in puff pieces. YMMV.

Incidentally, as others have pointed out, the overlaps between Marxism and feminism are marginal.

 

[Guno]

Man mocked after complaining he can'''t get a date

Single woman: what do you look for in a partner?

Popular answers might include looks, a good job or a sense of humour – but one man seems to think an annual supply of 700 pounds (lbs) of beef gives him the edge. This is the subject of a Twitter thread shared over the weekend, which has since gone viral.

A man named Stephen Vickers – who goes by the epithet “Dangerously Beefy” – bemoaned his single status, accusing the women in his life of preferring to date “losers” rather than enjoy what he had to offer as a “provider”.

Once again, the Marxist media lying about human nature in an attempt to emasculate men. They're claiming women don't strongly value men who provide, that a 'sense of humor' was the overriding attraction.

That's bunk. I've tried it. I tried the Alan Alda routine. It doesn't work. I tried to be the witty guy without the real job. Women ran the other way. Only when I began to get serious about taking care of business did the women come. Ever wonder why a pro athlete always has his pick of beautiful women? It's not because of his witty personality. It takes a certain amount of strut, of cache to make the pros.

The left can't change a woman's genetic preferences so they lie about it. Women want, above all, a strong serious man who is a provider. They may or may not need the money, but they want a man with cache, that is, the assertive personality traits, the people skills which includes empathy and kindness, that usually translate to being able to earn money

The reason the Marxists promote this lie that women prefer soft men is to make men want to be soft and easy for Marxist takeover, should the time come. Chickifacation of men is their goal, and fooling men into thinking the Alan Alda model of behavior is the ticket. Classic 1970s leftwing values. The sensitive (wussified) man.

Above all women don't want to be raped

In February, Pope Francis acknowledged a longstanding dirty secret in the Roman Catholic Church — the sexual abuse of nuns by priests.

It's an issue that had long been kept under wraps, but in the #MeToo era, a #NunsToo movement has emerged, and now sexual abuse is more widely discussed.

The Vatican's wall of silence was first broken in Women Church World, a supplement of the official Vatican daily, L'Osservatore Romano. An article in the February issue by editor Lucetta Scaraffia — a history professor, mother and feminist — blamed abuse of women and minors on the clerical culture of the all-powerful priesthood. The piece was based on hundreds of stories she heard from nuns.

Pope Francis Acknowledges, For First Time, Sexual Abuse Of Nuns By Priests

 

[Logician Man]

I used to take 'puff pieces' at face value. Now I always look for the agenda, and I usually see where there might be one. I don't think women are going to be so obvious and crass to admit they're in it for the money/security. But that's what they're wired to want.

If I hadn't fallen victim to the Alan Alda syndrome in my early 20s and paid the price, I might not be so convinced as I am.

/// but that's what they're wired to want /// <----- ( referring to, and demeaning women,including Catholic females, in a blanket statement.) :doh

 

[Mashmont]

Above all women don't want to be raped

Does a Marxist Leninist REALLY want to get into the topic of rape?

Soviet war crimes - Wikipedia

A significant number of these incidents occurred in Northern, Central, and Eastern Europe before, during and in the aftermath of World War II, involving summary executions and the mass murder of prisoners of war, such as in the Katyn massacre and mass rape by troops of the Red Army in territories they occupied.

The scale of rape of Polish women in 1945 led to a pandemic of sexually transmitted diseases. Although the total number of victims remains a matter of guessing, the Polish state archives and statistics of the Ministry of Health indicate that it might have exceeded 100,000

Western estimates of the traceable number of rape victims range from two hundred thousand to two million.[107] Following the Winter Offensive of 1945, mass rape by Soviet males occurred in all major cities taken by the Red Army. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers during the liberation of Poland. In some cases victims who did not hide in the basements all day were raped up to 15 times.[79][108] According to historian Antony Beevor, following the Red Army's capture of Berlin in 1945, Soviet troops raped German women and girls as young as eight years old.[109]

Something tells me you won't be broaching this line of trollery again.

 

[Logician Man]

Does a Marxist Leninist REALLY want to get into the topic of rape?

Soviet war crimes - Wikipedia

A significant number of these incidents occurred in Northern, Central, and Eastern Europe before, during and in the aftermath of World War II, involving summary executions and the mass murder of prisoners of war, such as in the Katyn massacre and mass rape by troops of the Red Army in territories they occupied.

The scale of rape of Polish women in 1945 led to a pandemic of sexually transmitted diseases. Although the total number of victims remains a matter of guessing, the Polish state archives and statistics of the Ministry of Health indicate that it might have exceeded 100,000

Western estimates of the traceable number of rape victims range from two hundred thousand to two million.[107] Following the Winter Offensive of 1945, mass rape by Soviet males occurred in all major cities taken by the Red Army. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers during the liberation of Poland. In some cases victims who did not hide in the basements all day were raped up to 15 times.[79][108] According to historian Antony Beevor, following the Red Army's capture of Berlin in 1945, Soviet troops raped German women and girls as young as eight years old.[109]

Something tells me you won't be broaching this line of trollery again.

strawman argument/deflection duly noted.

 

[Guno]

Does a Marxist Leninist REALLY want to get into the topic of rape?

Soviet war crimes - Wikipedia

A significant number of these incidents occurred in Northern, Central, and Eastern Europe before, during and in the aftermath of World War II, involving summary executions and the mass murder of prisoners of war, such as in the Katyn massacre and mass rape by troops of the Red Army in territories they occupied.

The scale of rape of Polish women in 1945 led to a pandemic of sexually transmitted diseases. Although the total number of victims remains a matter of guessing, the Polish state archives and statistics of the Ministry of Health indicate that it might have exceeded 100,000

Western estimates of the traceable number of rape victims range from two hundred thousand to two million.[107] Following the Winter Offensive of 1945, mass rape by Soviet males occurred in all major cities taken by the Red Army. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers during the liberation of Poland. In some cases victims who did not hide in the basements all day were raped up to 15 times.[79][108] According to historian Antony Beevor, following the Red Army's capture of Berlin in 1945, Soviet troops raped German women and girls as young as eight years old.[109]

Something tells me you won't be broaching this line of trollery again.

Pontifical university takes up sex abuse of nuns by priests

Pontifical university takes up sex abuse of nuns by priests


Priests' sexual abuse of nuns not dealt with by Catholic leaders

Priests' sexual abuse of nuns not dealt with by Catholic leaders

 

[Guno]

Does a Marxist Leninist REALLY want to get into the topic of rape?

Soviet war crimes - Wikipedia

A significant number of these incidents occurred in Northern, Central, and Eastern Europe before, during and in the aftermath of World War II, involving summary executions and the mass murder of prisoners of war, such as in the Katyn massacre and mass rape by troops of the Red Army in territories they occupied.

The scale of rape of Polish women in 1945 led to a pandemic of sexually transmitted diseases. Although the total number of victims remains a matter of guessing, the Polish state archives and statistics of the Ministry of Health indicate that it might have exceeded 100,000

Western estimates of the traceable number of rape victims range from two hundred thousand to two million.[107] Following the Winter Offensive of 1945, mass rape by Soviet males occurred in all major cities taken by the Red Army. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers during the liberation of Poland. In some cases victims who did not hide in the basements all day were raped up to 15 times.[79][108] According to historian Antony Beevor, following the Red Army's capture of Berlin in 1945, Soviet troops raped German women and girls as young as eight years old.[109]

Something tells me you won't be broaching this line of trollery again.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Still happening.

Catholic Church investigates after two missionary nuns return pregnant | HeraldScotland

 

[Mashmont]

Still happening.

Catholic Church investigates after two missionary nuns return pregnant | HeraldScotland

Your link saying nothing about priest involvement, so it's dismissed. Much the way I shut down Marxistleninist's unsourced claim. Once I listed a link to the USSR's MILLIONS of rapes, he didn't have much else to say on the matter.

 

[SDET]

What you say applies up to a point. Some of what you see is a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the media tell women what they are SUPPOSED to want, many will conform and want whatever that is. In my reading, many women file for divorce because they are "not happy". The media spreads the idea that a husband that doesn't keep his wife "happy" is unfit. It's a ridiculous expectation.

Man mocked after complaining he can'''t get a date

Single woman: what do you look for in a partner?

Popular answers might include looks, a good job or a sense of humour – but one man seems to think an annual supply of 700 pounds (lbs) of beef gives him the edge. This is the subject of a Twitter thread shared over the weekend, which has since gone viral.

A man named Stephen Vickers – who goes by the epithet “Dangerously Beefy” – bemoaned his single status, accusing the women in his life of preferring to date “losers” rather than enjoy what he had to offer as a “provider”.

Once again, the Marxist media lying about human nature in an attempt to emasculate men. They're claiming women don't strongly value men who provide, that a 'sense of humor' was the overriding attraction.

That's bunk. I've tried it. I tried the Alan Alda routine. It doesn't work. I tried to be the witty guy without the real job. Women ran the other way. Only when I began to get serious about taking care of business did the women come. Ever wonder why a pro athlete always has his pick of beautiful women? It's not because of his witty personality. It takes a certain amount of strut, of cache to make the pros.

The left can't change a woman's genetic preferences so they lie about it. Women want, above all, a strong serious man who is a provider. They may or may not need the money, but they want a man with cache, that is, the assertive personality traits, the people skills which includes empathy and kindness, that usually translate to being able to earn money

The reason the Marxists promote this lie that women prefer soft men is to make men want to be soft and easy for Marxist takeover, should the time come. Chickifacation of men is their goal, and fooling men into thinking the Alan Alda model of behavior is the ticket. Classic 1970s leftwing values. The sensitive (wussified) man.

 

[SDET]

The state makes it very difficult for a man to be in healthy mindset in a relationship. The way things are set up, married men need to put lots of effort into watching their back. They live with a Democles Sword over their head.

So you can’t get a date and it’s Karl Marx’s fault :lol:

My husband is trained in MMA. He is very manly and very strong. I have dated other types of men, more into arts and music... soft as you say... the reason I picked my husband, the way he treats me. We have a healthy supportive relationship. Having a healthy relationship is something you should be looking for, not some kind of pick artist gimmick

 

[SDET]

As I have mentioned before, he's looking in the wrong country. Risking it with drug cartels is preferable to dealing with an American woman! At least if things go off the rails with drug cartels in the area, your suffering will be short lived. When men kill each other off in gang wars, that leaves more available women.

 

[Logician Man]

I used to take 'puff pieces' at face value. Now I always look for the agenda, and I usually see where there might be one. I don't think women are going to be so obvious and crass to admit they're in it for the money/security. But that's what they're wired to want.

If I hadn't fallen victim to the Alan Alda syndrome in my early 20s and paid the price, I might not be so convinced as I am.

How did you 'fall victim' to a syndrome ? especially at an age when most people are fully matured, and not playing the 'victim' card ? Why not just be honest and admit some are late bloomers, intellectually speaking ?

 

[SheWolf]

The state makes it very difficult for a man to be in healthy mindset in a relationship. The way things are set up, married men need to put lots of effort into watching their back. They live with a Democles Sword over their head.

Why and how does a married man have to watch is back?

 

[SDET]

No-fault divorce, child alienation, alimony, loss of assets. The vast majority of divorces are initiated by women, often because they are "not happy". Divorce lawyers often advise women to "find" a reason to make abuse accusations because it helps get possession of the house.

Why and how does a married man have to watch is back?

 

[SDET]

I actually do buy it. Many women think that men should want the "special princess" every bit as much when she is 35 than when she is 19. Men have been chickafied and gladly let women give their best years to hooking up then volunteer to be a provider when she is age 35+. "Special princess" can wait until she is in her late 30s and overweight and men will still line up to provide for her. In other words, they only care about finding a provider AFTER they "hit the wall".

No, the beef is not really the issue. The guy didn't understand how women weren't going for him since he could provide for them. Then the article shows polling that claims women put the ability for the man to provide way down on the list. I just don't buy it.

 

[haymarket]

Still happening.

Catholic Church investigates after two missionary nuns return pregnant | HeraldScotland

Are you familiar with the term IMMACULATE CONCEPTION?

 

[Mashmont]

I actually do buy it. Many women think that men should want the "special princess" every bit as much when she is 35 than when she is 19. Men have been chickafied and gladly let women give their best years to hooking up then volunteer to be a provider when she is age 35+. "Special princess" can wait until she is in her late 30s and overweight and men will still line up to provide for her. In other words, they only care about finding a provider AFTER they "hit the wall".

This is kind of an interesting point you've brought up.

In 1979, I went out with a cute girl a few times. Then she got with someone who I suppose she thought was more fun. Pretty soon, I couldn't get the time of day.
Fast forward 40 years. I ran into her recently. She's 58, overweight, hasn't aged well, has been long divorced. Her three kids have all kinds of problems. Meanwhile I did OK in business and am pretty fit. Guess who has changed her tune and is very flirty now. And guess who would not be even slightly interested, even if he were free to be?

I don't mind saying the turnabout feels GREAT.

 

[SDET]

Here's the thing. If you're fit and financially solvent, NOW is your turn to hook up with the 19 year old. She doesn't want a provider, but if you can go to fun places, she will take an interest. Getting a 19 year old is no more difficult than getting a 35 year old. If you do find that 19 yo and she gets really attached to you, if the relationship advances, she will likely be pliable enough for you to influence to become a "custom fit" partner.

This is especially true if she never had a job and still lives with her parents.

This is kind of an interesting point you've brought up.

In 1979, I went out with a cute girl a few times. Then she got with someone who I suppose she thought was more fun. Pretty soon, I couldn't get the time of day.
Fast forward 40 years. I ran into her recently. She's 58, overweight, hasn't aged well, has been long divorced. Her three kids have all kinds of problems. Meanwhile I did OK in business and am pretty fit. Guess who has changed her tune and is very flirty now. And guess who would not be even slightly interested, even if he were free to be?

I don't mind saying the turnabout feels GREAT.

 

[danielpalos]

...well, Thanksgiving is coming up. So, I should be grateful i don't have to put with women who really believe in equality and breaking in the guy(s) with lowest numbers and least amount of practice by convincing us, it really is for our own Good.

 

[Phys251]

Here's the thing. If you're fit and financially solvent, NOW is your turn to hook up with the 19 year old. She doesn't want a provider, but if you can go to fun places, she will take an interest. Getting a 19 year old is no more difficult than getting a 35 year old. If you do find that 19 yo and she gets really attached to you, if the relationship advances, she will likely be pliable enough for you to influence to become a "custom fit" partner.

This is especially true if she never had a job and still lives with her parents.

Try hard to understand how bizarre that sounds. Try very hard.