Analysis of Trump Supporters Has Identified 5 Key Traits

[Luckyone]

It continually cracks me up when the left accuses the right of being the authoritarian, intolerant ones while the very premise of progressivism in subjugating individual freedoms in the interest of "what's best for society". I love his "some righties are prejudiced" as a defining characteristic of righties while blithely ignoring the same is true on the left. I laughed out loud when he suggested we're biased against "some religions" while ignoring the left's anti-Christian, anti-Israel bias.

Being a sort of independent and being 73 years old and a stock broker most of my life, I consider myself a "rational" person looking at the positives and negatives of each side. Having said that, I have to say that the right is more set in their ways and more close-minded than the left. I have been totally unable to get a Trump supporter to even accept some basics that cannot be argued against. To me, the right is blind.

The left does have some blindness as well but then again the arguments recently have not been about politics but about the kind of a man Trump is and the negatives of Trump are clearly and unequivocally evident.

As such, this thread about right and left is ridiculous. This is all about a man that does not have any redeeming qualities and everyone (right and left) should be on the same side.

 

[Mason66]

I still have a problem with this narrative that the same people that voted for Obama that were not prejudiced back then, are now prejudiced because they voted for Trump.

 

[JustHanging]

I still have a problem with this narrative that the same people that voted for Obama that were not prejudiced back then, are now prejudiced because they voted for Trump.

AFAIK, nobody is prejudiced because they voted for Trump. But if they, like Trump, have a long history of racist behavior, then they are considered prejudiced or racist.

 

[DifferentDrummr]

I was wondering how much money was spent on this research myself.

I can easily agree with the presented data as my own observations, (much attained right here at Debate Politics) led me to these conclusions long ago.

But I could have told them all of that myself, for free. Anyone paying attention figured most of these Trumptard's out a long time ago. What they call
scientific analysis and data, I just call common sense.

Do we really need to spend money to prove the sun will rise in the east?

Scientists need to eat, too!

 

[Bullseye]

Being a sort of independent and being 73 years old and a stock broker most of my life, I consider myself a "rational" person looking at the positives and negatives of each side. Having said that, I have to say that the right is more set in their ways and more close-minded than the left. I have been totally unable to get a Trump supporter to even accept some basics that cannot be argued against. To me, the right is blind.

LOL, we have similar histories, I'm a year or two younger, and been in military and engineering most of my adult life. And have found the exact opposite. To me the left has transformed into the hidebound, "no change, no way" mindset and the right is the one proposing new approaches. Take Social Security. As a stock broker I'm sure you understand that SS is a poor retirement "investment" and that investing the same amount into the most conservative vehicles would provide a far better retirement - I'm sure YOU'VE done that on a personal level. But the left gives us "SS as we know it". Similarly the left seems to think the solution to any problem or inconvenience is more government, more regulations, and more taxes.

The left does have some blindness as well but then again the arguments recently have not been about politics but about the kind of a man Trump is and the negatives of Trump are clearly and unequivocally evident.

Try to disconnect Trump the person from Trump's policies and agenda a look at results and trends. Record numbers of new job openings, over a million involuntary part-timers and discouraged workers back into the work force. Household income at record highs, wage growth at record. Companies making major capital investments. Revenue from personal income tax up strongly; yes, business income tax revenue down - that's being spent to grow the economy.


But, Trump's an idiot, a boor, a megalomaniac (he inherited that from his processor). Right?

 

[independentusa]

LOL, we have similar histories, I'm a year or two younger, and been in military and engineering most of my adult life. And have found the exact opposite. To me the left has transformed into the hidebound, "no change, no way" mindset and the right is the one proposing new approaches. Take Social Security. As a stock broker I'm sure you understand that SS is a poor retirement "investment" and that investing the same amount into the most conservative vehicles would provide a far better retirement - I'm sure YOU'VE done that on a personal level. But the left gives us "SS as we know it". Similarly the left seems to think the solution to any problem or inconvenience is more government, more regulations, and more taxes.

Try to disconnect Trump the person from Trump's policies and agenda a look at results and trends. Record numbers of new job openings, over a million involuntary part-timers and discouraged workers back into the work force. Household income at record highs, wage growth at record. Companies making major capital investments. Revenue from personal income tax up strongly; yes, business income tax revenue down - that's being spent to grow the economy.


But, Trump's an idiot, a boor, a megalomaniac (he inherited that from his processor). Right?

Let me see, job growth that you are talking about goes back to the second year of the Obama presidency. Before Trump even came into office we had over 80 months of job growth and it averaged over 200 thousand jobs a month. The unemployment rate was cut in half during that time. In fact the last 18 months of job growth under Obama was greater than the first 18 months under Trump. In July a study was done and it found that wages for wage earners, not including the wealthy, had actually gone down over the last twelve months. And much of the corporation tax cut went not to the employees or the growth in the company, but was used to buy back stock. Trump constantly says the economy was in a mess when he came into office, but in reality it had been growing ever since the second year of the Obama administration and many experts said the next president after Obama could expect the economy to grow much faster in the future as the stage was set for it to do that. When Obama took office the economy was not in a mess, but in a recession so bad that it came close to being a depression. Thee most I can say about Trump is that he has not done anything up to now to hurt the economy, although we never know with his tariffs.

 

[Luckyone]

LOL, we have similar histories, I'm a year or two younger, and been in military and engineering most of my adult life. And have found the exact opposite. To me the left has transformed into the hidebound, "no change, no way" mindset and the right is the one proposing new approaches. Take Social Security. As a stock broker I'm sure you understand that SS is a poor retirement "investment" and that investing the same amount into the most conservative vehicles would provide a far better retirement - I'm sure YOU'VE done that on a personal level. But the left gives us "SS as we know it". Similarly the left seems to think the solution to any problem or inconvenience is more government, more regulations, and more taxes.

Try to disconnect Trump the person from Trump's policies and agenda a look at results and trends. Record numbers of new job openings, over a million involuntary part-timers and discouraged workers back into the work force. Household income at record highs, wage growth at record. Companies making major capital investments. Revenue from personal income tax up strongly; yes, business income tax revenue down - that's being spent to grow the economy.


But, Trump's an idiot, a boor, a megalomaniac (he inherited that from his processor). Right?

i have often in the past addressed what Trump has accomplished but the problem lies in the fact that ALL of that would have been accomplished by any other Republican President (Kasich for example) without all the negatives that Trump has brought and even then, in the past we have had lower taxes and deregulation and it always ended up badly after a few years, meaning that the jury is still out on how beneficial this is. In addition, the help it brought about is mostly for the rich (which don't need the help) and the poor and middle class are getting only scraps.

Trickle down economics has been proven not to work, except perhaps for a short time at the start of it.

What everyone has to think about is the consequences of higher debt, more income inequality, and loss of regulations that make company owners greedy and that ultimately causes bubbles.

The only thing that Trump can be given credit for is getting elected and even then he did it with the help of Putin and that has a big cost to it.

If a Republican was to win this past election, it should have been Kasich. He would bring many of the positives and much less negatives.

Last but not least, the United States has always meant a United people and Trump has worked hard at causing us to be separated from each other and that is NEVER a good thing.

 

[ludin]

Gotta love this pop psychology that's almost a year old.

you have to love these projection arguments and paintbrush fallacies that these people come up with.
there is a reason that sociology and psychology are not real sciences.

 

[Bullseye]

i have often in the past addressed what Trump has accomplished but the problem lies in the fact that ALL of that would have been accomplished by any other Republican President (Kasich for example) without all the negatives that Trump has brought and even then, in the past we have had lower taxes and deregulation and it always ended up badly after a few years, meaning that the jury is still out on how beneficial this is. In addition, the help it brought about is mostly for the rich (which don't need the help) and the poor and middle class are getting only scraps.[/qote]First, I disagree that any other republican would have accomplish what has; the reason got elected was that large portion of the Republican electorate had heard "Just elect us and we'll fix it" for eight years and saw squat for results. Too many of the GOP leaders were "Good ol' boys" following the "go along to get along" mindset. Of course the jury is still out - the major piece is only six months old; those companies planning expansion and boost capital spending don't show results overnight. And when I see people getting jobs, raises, bonuses, and upgraded benefits and studies saying 80-95% of tax paying families got tax breaks it's a little hard to buy into "only the rich benefited.

Trickle down economics has been proven not to work, except perhaps for a short time at the start of it.

And after eight years of "free stuff" economics the benefits of that mindset is completely disproven. Answer me this: Who creates more jobs and new businesses? Minimum wage employees or wealthy investors? That's "trickle down economics". You said you were a stock broker - did you recommend stocks of homeless encampments or companies with strong growth potential. That is also trickle down economics.

What everyone has to think about is the consequences of higher debt, more income inequality, and loss of regulations that make company owners greedy and that ultimately causes bubbles.

Debt was coming anyway. Until we can kill spending, it's backed into the cake. Income inequality is a red herring; you probably earned more then the people that cleaned your office but I bet you cashed every check. "Greed" is a mindless trigger word. Business owners are no more greedy than their workers.

The only thing that Trump can be given credit for is getting elected and even then he did it with the help of Putin and that has a big cost to it.

Sorry, total prime grade bull****.
Luckyone]

Not the majority opinion, obviously.

Last but not least, the United States has always meant a United people and Trump has worked hard at causing us to be separated from each other and that is NEVER a good thing.

Bull****. Look in the other direction. Lefties have been the prime folks driving wedges into society; they're the grandmasters of identity politics and class warfare - Trump has just fought back - something few republican candidates (and DEFINITELY NOT Kasich) would have had the cojones to do.

 

[Luckyone]

First, I disagree that any other republican would have accomplish what has; the reason got elected was that large portion of the Republican electorate had heard "Just elect us and we'll fix it" for eight years and saw squat for results. Too many of the GOP leaders were "Good ol' boys" following the "go along to get along" mindset. Of course the jury is still out - the major piece is only six months old; those companies planning expansion and boost capital spending don't show results overnight. And when I see people getting jobs, raises, bonuses, and upgraded benefits and studies saying 80-95% of tax paying families got tax breaks it's a little hard to buy into "only the rich benefited.

We certainly disagree on this. Trump had nothing to do with the Tax cut. This was something that the Republicans wanted all along before Trump came into the picture. The Tax cut was all the House and Senate doing. Trump had nothing to do with it. Deregulation was also something the Republicans wanted. All Trump did was sign the executive orders.

And after eight years of "free stuff" economics the benefits of that mindset is completely disproven. Answer me this: Who creates more jobs and new businesses? Minimum wage employees or wealthy investors? That's "trickle down economics". You said you were a stock broker - did you recommend stocks of homeless encampments or companies with strong growth potential. That is also trickle down economics.

Evidently you have not been watching that the stock market rally has been generated by only a few companies. Most medium to small companies have been going down in price since that Tax help is mostly for the big companies and those that have money overseas to be repatriated. Companies that do not have foreign interests have been failing. Trumps game plan is not for the small companies, which are the bread and water of our economy but mostly for the rich that have money overseas and now the can bring it back without paying big taxes. Trust me on this, I know as I live it everyday in my stock evaluations that I do. Trickle down economics is exactly what the word "trickle " entails. More for the rich and crumbs for the middle and poor class to keep them quiet.

Debt was coming anyway. Until we can kill spending, it's backed into the cake. Income inequality is a red herring; you probably earned more then the people that cleaned your office but I bet you cashed every check. "Greed" is a mindless trigger word. Business owners are no more greedy than their workers.
Sorry, total prime grade bull****.

Debt kills, simple as that. The Tax cut increased the Debt by $1.5 trillion dollars and if you remember, 83% of the Tax cut went to the rich. As such, your comment about this being "prime grade bull****) does not apply.

Bull****. Look in the other direction. Lefties have been the prime folks driving wedges into society; they're the grandmasters of identity politics and class warfare - Trump has just fought back - something few republican candidates (and DEFINITELY NOT Kasich) would have had the cojones to do.

The problem with your statement lies in the fact that the Democrats represent a large portion of the middle and lower class while the Republicans represent mostly the rich (5% of the population) and all the stooges that believe in Trickle down economics.

As far as Kasich is concerned, cojones is not what is needed. Cojones is what a bully uses. What is needed is intelligence (which Trump has none), common sense (which Trump has none) and understanding that you represent a varied nation (not just White Populists) and come up with plans that help everyone and not just a few. In addition, a nation working alone is never as good as a group of nations working for a common goal and Trump is making more enemies than friends.

You are either not .being rational or simply don't care about anyone else other than yourself. In other words, just like Trump.