American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. ...

[AmNat]

Did you know that "completely false and demonstrably so" does not quite qualify as "an alternative historical viewpoint"?

Anyone who takes the position "well, maybe, 'The Holocaust' did NOT happen" (and does so without explaining where the 15,000,000(ish) people that were no longer walking around Europe at the end of WWII had gone to) offers - at BEST - ignorant support for the Nazis and their unsuccessful attempt at genocide.

It's fashionable in some circles to deny that the Roman Empire systematically persecuted Christians. There is no merit to that revisionist theory either. If it were alleged that a deceased professor had once assigned graduate students reading material that presented such a narrative, would you call for scholarships named after him to be abolished?

 

[AmNat]

Before you liberals lose whats left of your minds

I don't think they have any left.

 

[JMaximus]

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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Current US law already bars entry of Nazis.

 

[JMaximus]

So we are supposed to "tolerate" the Nazis but it's OK to demonize the "illegals" and/or "Muslims".

You can demonize the Nazis, too.

 

[MTAtech]

This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.

I see. You know what makes them Nazis? They were flying Nazi flags.

 

[AmNat]

I see. You know what makes them Nazis? They were flying Nazi flags.

Dr. Link was not there. Thank you for continuing to demonstrate the dishonesty of the left.

 

[JMaximus]

*****

What we need is a national holiday to remember ALL massacres throughout history, which (among others) would include the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking, the Rwanda genocide, the Cambodia genocide, etc.

... to be celebrated with shopping discounts and barbeques.

 

[apdst]

From CNN

American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
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(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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All illegal aliens have committed a crime. :lamo

What crimes did these clowns commit? I agree, they're human garbage, but they still have the right to free speech, just like illegal aliens do.

 

[apdst]

Is this America becoming great again?

Right, because there were never nazi assholes like these prior to 2017.

 

[Tigerace117]

For reference, here's the article, though I can understand why the OP would've been too ashamed to actually link such a disgusting piece of propaganda:

American Nazis, white supremacists protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why. - CNN

Typical of CNN, they've linked a controversy about a scholarship at Arkansas Tech to a completely unrelated event. Basically, there's a bunch of histrionic totalitarian SJWs who want a scholarship ended because the professor whose estate is funding it is rumored to have assigned graduate students reading material presenting an alternative view of a historical event.

The narrow-mindedness of these people sometimes beggars belief.

What a pathetic attempt to dance around the fact that the professor was apparently a Holocaust denier.

 

[apdst]

So we are supposed to "tolerate" the Nazis but it's OK to demonize the "illegals" and/or "Muslims".

We can demonize them both and commie scumbags, too.

 

[Tigerace117]

This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.

No one is obligated to read the utter crap that is Holocaust denial, nor should anyone be peddling that load of bull****, especially not in schools.

 

[buck]

They have the same rights to free expression as anyone else.

Why do I have to repeat this? Freedom of expression is not limited to ideas and expression we like. It expressly protects expression we do not like.

I've mentioned this before. Back when the KKK and Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, I supported the ACLU lawsuit to allow this.

Why? Because I want them out in the open, to know they still exist and have some support. To SEE them and know who I need to watch out for and to keep me motivated against allowing them any real successes in our nation.

If you muzzle them, they simply go underground, but it doesn't stop them from growing or acting.

Meanwhile, if you stop them by claiming they are too "evil" to be protected by the First Amendment, you create an insidious exception. Then where does it stop? Perhaps YOUR group declared too "offensive" to be "tolerated?"

Agree. As I recall in Skokie, it was like 2 dozens nazis and hudreds of counter protestors. As it should be. Let people see how stupid they are.

 

[Grand Mal]

Before you liberals lose whats left of your minds, the article says there were 10-15 Nazis who showed up.

Where'd you get that from? There's no link in the OP.
Whatever. 10 or 15 is 10 or 15 more than ever before. How should we express that? As a multiple, you'll be multiplying 0 for a long time trying to get to 1. Same with percentage- if 0 is 100% of the nazi assholes who showed up last year, how much did it increase?
You guys denying that expressions of this kind of racism and bigotry have increased in the past couple years is like those other guys denying global warming. Just because your Dear Leader says that a lie becomes the truth as soon as he utters it doesn't make it so.

 

[The Mark]

From CNN

American Nazis protested a Holocaust remembrance event. A university's scholarship is part of the reason why.
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(CNN)For the past five years, Joyce Griffis and Congregation Chaim B'Derech have held a Holocaust March for Remembrance in Russellville, Arkansas. It's always been solemn and peaceful.

This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have," while screaming references to Holocaust victims as "your imaginary 6 million."

The white supremacists carried crosses -- at least one was stained red -- alongside a picture of Jesus.

COMMENT:-

If the commission of crimes by "even one" is enough of a reason to deport ALL "illegal immigrants", how many is the minimum required to ban Nazis?
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No amount of crimes is enough to ban Nazis.
Legal punishment of actions by individuals or groups/organizations who are nazis, sure.

But people have a right to be in groups so long as they don't violate laws.
And a law specifically targeting Nazi's seems like a bad direction to take things.

 

[AmNat]

No one is obligated to read the utter crap that is Holocaust denial, nor should anyone be peddling that load of bull****, especially not in schools.

It's sad to see such closed-mindedness take over academia.

 

[Tigerace117]

It's sad to see such closed-mindedness take over academia.

It’s not “closed minded-ness”. The Holocaust happened. It’s a historical fact. The Germans produced thousands of documents detailing the events as they happened......not to mention, of course, the accounts of survivors, the testimony of the allied troops who liberated the camps, the admissions of the camp guards and Nazi hierarchy.......

Just like we don’t teach the “ancient aliens” theory in school, neither should we teach bull**** like Holocaust denial.

 

[Grand Mal]

It's sad to see such closed-mindedness take over academia.

You really consider rejecting holocaust denial is 'closemindedness'? Be exact, is that what you're saying?

 

[poweRob]

**** nationalist nazis.

 

[Carjosse]

This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.

Do you think that flat earthers should also be given academic legitimacy? The key to countering holocaust denial is denying it any legitimacy.

Holocaust denial is a core tenant of modern neo-Nazism and anti-semitism.

 

[Sweden]

And I can understand why you want to support the Nazis.

AmNat does not support Nazis. Nor have I seen any post by him saying 'maybe the holocaust did not happen'. Why do you continually repeat a falsehood?

(In case you feel like throwing insults my way I must make clear that I have supported Israel since its foundation. And that we know about the Nazi murders of the Jews in very great detail. The Israeli holocaust memorial and research centre Vad Yeshem has lists of all the know holocaust victims. One who was killed at Auschwitz has the same surname as me. Finally I knew about the reality of the holocaust from the time I saw, as a nine year old, newly taken film of the concentration camps as theey were liberated, one by one, by advancing allied forces).

 

[JustHanging]

So we are supposed to "tolerate" the Nazis but it's OK to demonize the "illegals" and/or "Muslims".

Well, Trump has said that there are some "very fine people" on the Nazi side, but I haven't heard him say virtually anything nice about the "illegals".

Hang on, Trump did attempt to dehumanize the "illegals" by referring to them as animals, rather than human beings. That's an old Nazi strategy.


So in Trumpworld, according to Trump himself, you should tolerate Nazis, realizing some are "very fine people", but recognize that "illegals" are sub-human, "breeders" and "animals".
Trump blasts 'breeding' in sanctuary cities
Trump: Immigrant gangs 'animals, not people'


And apparently that's how you MAGA. But I'm sure the usual Trump apologists will be along shortly.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Oh, look who shows up to defend nazis......

Look who shows to spin what actually has been said! :spin:

Try read post # 6. Maybe then you will get some understanding of what the 1st amendment means.

 

[Carjosse]

AmNat does not support Nazis. Nor have I seen any post by him saying 'maybe the holocaust did not happen'. Why do you continually repeat a falsehood?

(In case you feel like throwing insults my way I must make clear that I have supported Israel since its foundation. And that we know about the Nazi murders of the Jews in very great detail. The Israeli holocaust memorial and research centre Vad Yeshem has lists of all the know holocaust victims. One who was killed at Auschwitz has the same surname as me. Finally I knew about the reality of the holocaust from the time I saw, as a nine year old, newly taken film of the concentration camps as theey were liberated, one by one, by advancing allied forces).

Advocating giving holocaust denial academic legitimacy or any kind of legitimacy is supporting holocaust denial.

 

[beefheart]

This is a great example of the deranged and totalitarian nature of the modern left. To them, simply having students (and graduate students at that, who should be expected to be able to deal with conflicting opinions) read an alternative historical viewpoint makes one a "Nazi". And of course, an allegation of being a "Nazi" is sufficient to make one so.

And your posting history here shows that you always defend nazis and white supremacists. Don't like being called out?