American manufacturers growing at fastest pace in 14 years, ISM finds

[Hatuey]

It's called deregulation, something Trump has total power over. It's called a corporate tax cut that allows off shore corporate capital to be invested in the United States. Now name the last business Obama ran, and how successful it was. I know you can't, so I won't hold my breath. That was rhetorical in case it escaped you.

You don't actually have a link to any of these deals, do you?

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[JMaximus]

Not everyone can/wants to be in software engineering, nor do they want to all be a doctor or in nursing. College is not for everyone.

Then they will fail.

Quite simple.

 

[American]

You don't actually have a link to any of these deals, do you?

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

Sure, right after to describe Obama's business acumen.

 

[Hatuey]

Sure, right after to describe Obama's business acumen.

I am waiting on those links so we can talk about the deals. You are claiming they exist. I want you to point out the specifics.

Don't worry, I expect nothing but those amazing one liners that have made you a respectable poster on this forum.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

 

[American]

I am waiting on those links so we can talk about the deals. You are claiming they exist. I want you to point out the specifics.

Don't worry, I expect nothing but those amazing one liners that have made you a respectable poster on this forum.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

https://cei.org/blog/so-what-regulations-did-trump-eliminate

https://taxfoundation.org/us-corporate-income-tax-more-competitive/

I doubt you'll bring forth Obama's business expertise now. I already know the answer to this, and so do you. Bring on the smoke.

 

[Hatuey]

https://cei.org/blog/so-what-regulations-did-trump-eliminate

https://taxfoundation.org/us-corporate-income-tax-more-competitive/

I doubt you'll bring forth Obama's business expertise now. I already know the answer to this, and so do you. Bring on the smoke.

These are not deals with foreign nations. This is deregulation. Do you understand the difference or do you need help? Here let me help you. Trump said an agreement was made by Mexico, where is the text from that agreement?

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[American]

These are not deals with foreign nations. This is deregulation. Do you understand the difference or do you need help? Here let me help you. Trump said an agreement was made by Mexico, where is the text from that agreement?

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

I knew that you had to nothing to offer, you're just a talker.

 

[Hatuey]

I knew that you had to nothing to offer, you're just a talker.

Nothing to offer? I asked you for the text of a deal. You showed me Trump not making a deal with other countries.

Do you understand why you have failed?

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[Hatuey]

I love it. I asked American to show me a single agreement Trump has made with a foreign nation, and he shows me the Trump government halting regulation on Ecuadorian fruit.

Truly, I am impressed by his grasp of the claims Trump is making.

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[holbritter]

Then they will fail.

Quite simple.

Really? That is awfully insulting to those who have succeeded in life, but did not go to college. My husband makes a very nice salary and never went to college. Ever watch the show Dirty Jobs? We NEED people that do not want to go to college.

 

[JMaximus]

Really? That is awfully insulting to those who have succeeded in life, but did not go to college.

Did you read what I wrote?

How about what you wrote?

Being insulted by something said by a stranger on an internet forum isn't a sign of someone who "(has) succeeded in life". It's a sign of someone who is bitter and resentful of a world that's passed them by while they've been helpless to catch up.

So I really don't believe what I've said is at all insulting to "those who have succeeded in life" - whether they went to college or not.

My husband makes a very nice salary and never went to college.

Did you tell your husband what I said?

Was he insulted?

Ever watch the show Dirty Jobs? We NEED people that do not want to go to college.

We need people who are willing to do **** work, yes. But what happens when that **** work goes away?

Then those people need to be willing to try something else. And if they're not, too bad for them.

There are people who try their damndest and still can't get ahead. They deserve our help.

And then there are willful dumb ****s who want nothing more than to remain willfully dumb as ****. Well **** those people.

 

[MTAtech]

That’s what happens when you have a leader who actually understands economics.

From the below graph, notice the break from the previous administration? Me neither.

 

[distraff]

It's just a shame that you won't admit that the jobs coming back are a great victory for many workers. You are just spinning total and complete nonsense!!

Low wage jobs that are dead on arrival aren't a victory for anyone and certainly aren't worth higher prices for the middle class.

 

[distraff]

Again, play that smug crap with the voters next election and see where that gets you.


What happened to you Democrats? You use to be for the working man. Now you tell them to suck it up and retrain while their jobs go overseas.

I am not a democrat.

 

[Media_Truth]

Good manufacturing jobs! Decent pay and benefits.


American manufacturers growing at fastest pace in 14 years, ISM finds

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/american-manufacturers-growing-at-fastest-pace-in-14-years-ism-finds-2018-09-04

The numbers: American manufacturers are on a roll: Business conditions surged in August to a 14-year high, according to a a survey of industry executives.

The Institute for Supply Management said its manufacturing index jumped to a 14-year high of 61.3% last month from 58.1% in July. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch had forecast the index to total 57.9%.

Readings over 50% indicate more companies are expanding instead of shrinking.

Your first sentence is your editorial take, and not part of the article. Despite the the economy upturn which was started by Obama, and continued by Trump, workers effective pay is stagnant.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/opinion/wage-stagnation-unemployment-economic-growth.html
But stagnant wages for factory workers and non-managers in the service sector — together they represent 82 percent of the labor force — is mainly the outcome of a long power struggle that workers are losing. Even at a time of low unemployment, their bargaining power is feeble, the weakest I’ve seen in decades. Hostile institutions — the Trump administration, the courts, the corporate sector — are limiting their avenues for demanding higher pay.

Data released on Tuesday show that real weekly earnings for full-time, middle-wage workers hasn’t grown at all since early 2017.

 

[American]

I love it. I asked American to show me a single agreement Trump has made with a foreign nation, and he shows me the Trump government halting regulation on Ecuadorian fruit.

Truly, I am impressed by his grasp of the claims Trump is making.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

You don't actually have a link to any of these deals, do you?

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

There's what you actually said, nothing there about foreign nations. Nor did I say anything about foreign nations.

 

[Hatuey]

There's what you actually said, nothing there about foreign nations. Nor did I say anything about foreign nations.

Yes, I asked you if you had a link to any of the deals Trump has talked about. You know, the one with Mexico or North Korea, etc. I didn't ask you for deregulation.

Truly, you've earned your place as the most respected debater on DP.



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[American]

Yes, I asked you if you had a link to any of the deals Trump has talked about. You know, the one with Mexico or North Korea, etc. I didn't ask you for deregulation.

Truly, you've earned your place as the most respected debater on DP.



Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

You don't get to change what I'm talking about. I mentioned tax cuts and deregulation. If you want to talk about deals with foreign governments, you'll need to find your own links. It's really sad how you can't ****ing address what I posted, but have to play games up here.

 

[Hatuey]

You don't get to change what I'm talking about.

Lmao, you lie and don't think you'll be caught?

Here is every response I've made in this thread and what I have asked for:

Please post the text of this deal and kindly direct me to the effects it is meant to have on state economies.

Yes, I asked you if you had a link to any of the deals Trump has talked about.

Nothing to offer? I asked you for the text of a deal. You showed me Trump not making a deal with other countries.

Trump said an agreement was made by Mexico, where is the text from that agreement?

I am waiting on those links so we can talk about the deals.

You don't actually have a link to any of these deals, do you?

And my very first post:

Apparently, you know of a deal has Trump directly negotiated which has changed our relationship with another country. Please post the text of this deal and kindly direct me to the effects it is meant to have on state economies.

In short, I asked for the text of these deals from my very first post in this thread. You have twisted that to be some sort of request for information about Trump's deregulation. I literally explained to you that not once did I ask you for information on deregulation, but you kept on chugging.

Truly, you have earned your place as the most respected debater on the DP battlefield. That reading comprehension you are displaying?

Level covfvefe.

 

[MTAtech]

According to advocacy group Reshoring Initiative, the number of jobs being reshored by U.S. companies has increased more than tenfold since 2010.

Here is a small list:
...

1) Ah yes, I remember Trump getting elected in 2010. He therefore has a right to take credit for those reshored jobs. Oh wait...

2) If one adds up all of those jobs, it isn't a significant number.

 

[ElChupacabra]

So you are not happy that manufacturer jobs are coming back now? People in factory's make cars, tens of thousands work there, support their family with that income. That is a very good thing!

No one will argue that, but the question is how sustainable that will be since companies are always looking to save on labor even when they're extremely profitable. Manual labor continues to be replaced by automation and isn't a trend that will go away anytime soon. I sure hope the people employed by these new manufacturing jobs are using their spare time to learn how to code or focus on some other technological skill set. In that situation I'd learn how to maintain robotics so when the machines come I am still viable.

 

[phattonez]

Recovery status: none found.

 

[phattonez]

What about we first save the jobs of the buggy makers, boat rowers, clothes weavers, and cotton pickers? When technology moves on there is no point fighting for obsolete jobs.

These aren't obsolete. They're just being moved overseas. There's a huge difference between the two.

 

[phattonez]

Every new job we create in a factory will soon be outsourced or replaced with a machine. Every job we create that puts food on the table is one that is eventually going to get a pink slip. Its more merciful to give these people in these dying industries a life line out of there by training them to have marketable skills. Instead Trump wants to lead more people into the black hole of manufacturing. When products can be made cheaper with cheap labor and machines there is no way that high paying manufacturing jobs will survive in the long term.

We can prevent that with tariffs.

 

[phattonez]

We shouldn't be raising prices and reducing the value of middle class paychecks with doomed tariffs for jobs that will soon be gone. The average manufacturing job only pays about $34,000 which is almost poverty level. In software development and engineering wages range from $65,000 to $130,000. Nursing and doctor jobs are also in high demand.

Which is far better than paying the millions of unemployed that we have money to do nothing.