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America Last vs America First – Obama vs Trump photos

Translation: We must all cut off our legs because Hitler had legs. We must all cut off our noses because Adolf had a nose. We must all burn our houses down because Adolf had a house. We must all stop using the name 'America' because Adolf used the word many times. We must never again breath air because Adolf breathed air.

The National Socialist Hitler did many things we do. He wore clothes. Used buttons, shoes, hats, umbrellas. He like music. He drank water. If you hate someone you can pick on any of these and say, "You must be National Socialist Hitler because he also drank water!"

Translation--- adopting the message of a group which tried to keep the US from fighting Adolf Hitler is a dumb idea and isolationism is an unworkable ideology.
 
Given that Canadian conservatives are no more eager to hand over their country to Trump than I am, so can I.

Nobody's handing their country to Trump. Conservative Canadians hate Trudeau as much as American conservatives, and many admire Trump and want Canada to work with him. Do you have any conservative publications or TV in Canada? It would pay to read/watch them rather than the usual Fake News.
 
Translation--- adopting the message of a group which tried to keep the US from fighting Adolf Hitler is a dumb idea and isolationism is an unworkable ideology.

America First is what many people say, including church ministers, astronauts, rock singers, actors, brain surgeons, mountaineers, Mormons, atheists, Aids victims, prostitutes, prisoners, rapists, Nazis, communists, priests, car racers, nurses, teachers, pedophiles and mayors. It doesn't belong to one group.
 
America First is what many people say, including church ministers, astronauts, rock singers, actors, brain surgeons, mountaineers, Mormons, atheists, Aids victims, prostitutes, prisoners, rapists, Nazis, communists, priests, car racers, nurses, teachers, pedophiles and mayors. It doesn't belong to one group.

"America first" is has a very specific historical meaning as a slogan. You don't like that? Tough.
 
"America first" is has a very specific historical meaning as a slogan. You don't like that? Tough.

Nonsense. It was a slogan used by President Woodrow Wilson in 1916, long before Adolf's National Socialists existed. It was also used in other things.
 
Nobody's handing their country to Trump. Conservative Canadians hate Trudeau as much as American conservatives, and many admire Trump and want Canada to work with him. Do you have any conservative publications or TV in Canada? It would pay to read/watch them rather than the usual Fake News.

Conservative leaders are on the record as being in unity with Trudeau on this issue. Even Scheer has publicly stated that Trump is being appropriate. The vast majority of Canadian conservatives are not Trump fan boys. I think it's maybe you that needs to stop reading Canadian far right click bait.
 
Conservative leaders are on the record as being in unity with Trudeau on this issue. Even Scheer has publicly stated that Trump is being appropriate. The vast majority of Canadian conservatives are not Trump fan boys. I think it's maybe you that needs to stop reading Canadian far right click bait.

If that's true then your conservatives are CINO's. The same thing happened to the Republican Party in the US and our own LNP here in Australia. Essentially the Left, which infiltrates EVERYTHING, has infiltrated conservative political parties. I'll amend what I said above to "real conservatives".
 
If that's true then your conservatives are CINO's. The same thing happened to the Republican Party in the US and our own LNP here in Australia. Essentially the Left, which infiltrates EVERYTHING, has infiltrated conservative political parties. I'll amend what I said above to "real conservatives".

Ya, let me know when you're a real Canadian, and I'll care about what you have to say.
 
Nonsense. It was a slogan used by President Woodrow Wilson in 1916, long before Adolf's National Socialists existed. It was also used in other things.

President Woodrow Wilson was an incredibly racist scumbag who played a direct role in helping the KKK return to prominence.

Literally half of your "other things" confirm what I just said--- "America First" is nothing more than an isolationist rallying cry and one which was used by those opposed to fighting Adolf Hitler.
 
Obama's policies made China stronger and the U.S. weaker, and all American businessmen had to deal with that, including Trump. As a businessman his job was to make his company as profitable as possible, so like any other U.S. company he would have to have products made in China. As POTUS he is working to change that situation so American businessmen can once again produce stuff in the States. Lefties don't understand any of this since they are anti-capitalists. It goes right over their heads.

From Forbes:

Obama's Policies Make China Stronger And The U.S. Weaker

As an "American First" businessman his profits wouldn't be as important than having more Americans at work.

I understand, really I do. Heaven forbid he opens a factory in Nebraska to make ties and has to buy a regular toilet instead of a gold one.
 

Trump's eldest son compared two photos with a meme that reads 'America last vs America first.' The top photo shows former President Barack Obama, smiling alongside German Chancellor Angela Merkel, among others, at the G7 summit in Germany in 2015.

The other photo is of his father and Merkel from this year's summit. The pair have eyes locked, with the chancellor leaning forward with her hands firmly on a table, glaring at Trump, who is seated with his arms crossed and a smug expression on his face.

Don Jr compares pictures of Trump smug at German Chancellor Merkel and Obama smiling at G7 leaders | Daily Mail Online

You’re actually serious? How was America ever last? Trump’s theme is America only. He looks like a moronic spoiled brat.

But it could be we were actually stumbling in the dark til the Great Insulter and his genius sons showed up.
 
"America First" is nothing more than an isolationist rallying cry

As you can see plenty of people have used 'America First' for all kinds of reasons. Just because that large group includes a few socialists doesn't mean you give the words to them. The word "first" will be used for millions of things.

If that's not good enough for you, tell your therapist.
 
As an "American First" businessman his profits wouldn't be as important than having more Americans at work.

That’s a good example of ‘the Left not understanding business’. If you want business to be a charity, then why don’t you start one? When all your competitors are making wallets in China and selling them for twenty bucks, you make yours in America, with its unions and Obama red tape, and try selling it for the same price. When you make no profits sell your house to pay your workers. After that sell your car and all your furniture. When you are naked on the street with nothing, and your business is bankrupt and closed, you can say, “At least I was true to America.” Go ahead – be a charity and lose. Trump is a winner – he didn’t start businesses to lose.

I understand, really I do. Heaven forbid he opens a factory in Nebraska to make ties and has to buy a regular toilet instead of a gold one.

Once again – a Leftist fantasy rooted in Scrooge McDuck. You don’t make money by wasting it.
 
Trump’s theme is America only.

America first. "Let's make America great again."

"America only" wouldn't work.

"He looks like a moronic spoiled brat."

All good people do to socialists.

But it could be we were actually stumbling in the dark til the Great Insulter and his genius sons showed up.

Says a poor but enthusiastic insulter.
 
As you can see plenty of people have used 'America First' for all kinds of reasons. Just because that large group includes a few socialists doesn't mean you give the words to them. The word "first" will be used for millions of things.

If that's not good enough for you, tell your therapist.

Actually, “America First” weren’t socialists. They were useful idiot conservatives mixed with active Nazi supporters like the German American Bund.

You can cry all you want, your slogan has historical meaning, and not a good one. Deal with it.
 
National Socialists have nothing to do with Trump - he hates socialism.

National socialism had nothing to do with socialism. It was fascism. Socialism and fascism are diametrically opposed.

It is my experience that mostly fascists argue otherwise.

Hitler hated socialism, too. He murdered millions of them.
 
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As you can see plenty of people have used 'America First' for all kinds of reasons. Just because that large group includes a few socialists doesn't mean you give the words to them. The word "first" will be used for millions of things.

If that's not good enough for you, tell your therapist.

Your original America firster was Charles Lindbergh, a nazi sympathizer and Republican stalwart.
 
National socialism had nothing to do with socialism. It was fascism. Socialism and fascism are diametrically opposed.

It is my experience that mostly fascists argue otherwise.

Hitler hated socialism, too. He murdered millions of them.

Hitler’s National Socialist Worker’s Party (The Nazi Party) nationalized factories, took over companies, dictated production to private corporations, set price and wage controls, destroyed large retail outlets, maintained universal health care, placed limits on stock dividends, controlled capital and the means of production. The Socialist label Hitler picked was very deliberately chosen, for very clear reasons.

For those who say that Hitler hated other socialists; so what? Hating other socialists doesn’t cancel out one’s socialism, just as hating other capitalists doesn’t cancel out one’s capitalism. Also, there are different types of socialists. Stalin killed Trotsky. Because the Nazis killed certain socialists is no argument that they themselves weren't socialists. Who says that socialist A can't kill socialist B? It happens throughout modern history.

As to the "outlawing of labor unions", this is evidence the Nazis were central planners. When a central government bans or outlaws any non-violent activity, it is evidence of central planning, not some free market or unregulated society.

Quite often Socialists purge or murder various groups, minorities and races. Hitler did this with Jews, blacks, gypsies, and others. The Soviet Union did the same with different groups, including Jews. Mao purged various groups too, as did Kim.

“In November 1948, Soviet authorities launched a campaign to liquidate what was left of Jewish culture. The leading members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee were arrested. They were charged with treason, bourgeois nationalism and planning to set up a Jewish republic in Crimea to serve American interests. The Museum of Environmental Knowledge of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (established in November 1944) and The Jewish Museum in Vilnius (established at the end of the war) were closed down in 1948. The Historical-Ethnographic Museum of Georgian Jewry, established in 1933, was shut down at the end of 1951.”

Stalin and antisemitism - Wikipedia

Nazis took over the means of production. Some examples include Junkers Flugzeug.

Junkers - Wikipedia

There was the automobile industry:

"Hitler envisioned widespread car ownership as part of the new Germany. He arranged for designer Ferdinand Porsche to draw up plans for the KdF-wagen (Strength Through Joy car), intended to be an automobile that every German citizen could afford."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Wage and price controls.

"Göring instituted wage and price controls and restricted the issuance of stock dividends."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Controlling retail stores

“The Nazis were determined to eliminate the presence of large department stores (many of which were owned by Jews), and began to implement policies to curb their influence and expansion. Strict licensing requirements and temporary bans (all of which became permanent even after their expiry date) were passed which had an immediate effect on retail."

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Dictating to industry

Cars and other forms of motorized transport became increasingly attractive to the population, and the German motor industry boomed.[37] However, the government in Berlin banned many types of vehicles and allowed the production of only 19 different models of cars and trucks.[38] This decreased consumer choice and profits, and combined with rubber shortages to create what an American observer called, “drastic restrictions on the use of motor vehicles”.

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Let’s not forget Germany's Universal Health Care, which the Nazis kept.

After WWII, Socialists in the West were very embarrassed by revelations about National Socialist Hitler’s atrocities. They scurried to distance themselves from him, by labeling him a “right winged fascist.” This was to protect the Left from his actions. This was okay as long as the Liberal media were in charge of information, but when the internet came along, the myth was exposed. Today many millions are setting the record straight online. A Bing search for ‘Hitler was a socialist’ brings up millions of entries.
 
Hitler’s National Socialist Worker’s Party (The Nazi Party) nationalized factories, took over companies, dictated production to private corporations, set price and wage controls, destroyed large retail outlets, maintained universal health care, placed limits on stock dividends, controlled capital and the means of production. The Socialist label Hitler picked was very deliberately chosen, for very clear reasons.

For those who say that Hitler hated other socialists; so what? Hating other socialists doesn’t cancel out one’s socialism, just as hating other capitalists doesn’t cancel out one’s capitalism. Also, there are different types of socialists. Stalin killed Trotsky. Because the Nazis killed certain socialists is no argument that they themselves weren't socialists. Who says that socialist A can't kill socialist B? It happens throughout modern history.

As to the "outlawing of labor unions", this is evidence the Nazis were central planners. When a central government bans or outlaws any non-violent activity, it is evidence of central planning, not some free market or unregulated society.

Quite often Socialists purge or murder various groups, minorities and races. Hitler did this with Jews, blacks, gypsies, and others. The Soviet Union did the same with different groups, including Jews. Mao purged various groups too, as did Kim.

“In November 1948, Soviet authorities launched a campaign to liquidate what was left of Jewish culture. The leading members of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee were arrested. They were charged with treason, bourgeois nationalism and planning to set up a Jewish republic in Crimea to serve American interests. The Museum of Environmental Knowledge of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (established in November 1944) and The Jewish Museum in Vilnius (established at the end of the war) were closed down in 1948. The Historical-Ethnographic Museum of Georgian Jewry, established in 1933, was shut down at the end of 1951.”

Stalin and antisemitism - Wikipedia

Nazis took over the means of production. Some examples include Junkers Flugzeug.

Junkers - Wikipedia

There was the automobile industry:

"Hitler envisioned widespread car ownership as part of the new Germany. He arranged for designer Ferdinand Porsche to draw up plans for the KdF-wagen (Strength Through Joy car), intended to be an automobile that every German citizen could afford."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Wage and price controls.

"Göring instituted wage and price controls and restricted the issuance of stock dividends."

Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Controlling retail stores

“The Nazis were determined to eliminate the presence of large department stores (many of which were owned by Jews), and began to implement policies to curb their influence and expansion. Strict licensing requirements and temporary bans (all of which became permanent even after their expiry date) were passed which had an immediate effect on retail."

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Dictating to industry

Cars and other forms of motorized transport became increasingly attractive to the population, and the German motor industry boomed.[37] However, the government in Berlin banned many types of vehicles and allowed the production of only 19 different models of cars and trucks.[38] This decreased consumer choice and profits, and combined with rubber shortages to create what an American observer called, “drastic restrictions on the use of motor vehicles”.

Economy of Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Let’s not forget Germany's Universal Health Care, which the Nazis kept.

After WWII, Socialists in the West were very embarrassed by revelations about National Socialist Hitler’s atrocities. They scurried to distance themselves from him, by labeling him a “right winged fascist.” This was to protect the Left from his actions. This was okay as long as the Liberal media were in charge of information, but when the internet came along, the myth was exposed. Today many millions are setting the record straight online. A Bing search for ‘Hitler was a socialist’ brings up millions of entries.
Hitler was a fascist. He murdered millions of socialists.
 
National Socialists have nothing to do with Trump - he hates socialism.

Nazis weren't socialists. They tried to exterminate socialism along with any other left wing, center or otherwise non far right ideology.
 
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