Alabama governor plans to vote for Moore even though ‘I have no reason to disbelieve’ accusers

[Fletch]

A liberal is a greater evil than a aerial pedophile?

What the hell is wrong with you?

I didn't say that, so nothing is wrong with me. Whats wrong with you is your inability to comprehend what is being said.

 

[Fletch]

He was waterboarded with Trump Kool-Aid.

See above.

 

[Top Cat]

I didn't say that, so nothing is wrong with me. Whats wrong with you is your inability to comprehend what is being said.

You most certainly did.

Originally Posted by Fletch
But it is not a viable option if your inaction allows what you see as a greater evil to gain power. I was simply probing him to see what he thought was the greater evil.

 

[Fletch]

You most certainly did.

I was referring to libertarians not liberals.

 

[Top Cat]

I was referring to libertarians not liberals.

What difference does that make?

 

[Verax]

What? Democrats think throwing away their garbage only after they have served their purpose is noble (Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy etc), while defending them while they are still useful.

If you have to dredge up dead people and presidents of 20 years ago you're probably grasping at straws. So far this year I think right wingers have brought up every bad thing anyone has ever done in the history of the USA to try and excuse the misdeeds of this administration and Republicans in general. Just like the first month of Trump was compared to 8 years of Obama and Trump still generated more scandals and negativity.

 

[haymarket]

I didn't say it was found to be face and you know why.

The woman and her attorney will not turn it over to be looked at.

I wonder why.

They said they would turn it over to the Senate Ethics Committee and a proper expert for analysis. Did you miss that?

 

[Mason66]

I saw the attorney agree to turn the yearbook over to the Senate Ethics Committee to be examined by their expert. I think that happened on Wednesday - but again I was on the road in Toronto so I could be wrong about the day.

She agreed to turn it over only if the Senate starts an ethics investigation, which is impossible because Moore is not in the Senate yet.

 

[Mason66]

So Roy Moore NEVER used to sign his name that way during that period?

Roy Moore would never sign his name like that because the DA is the initials of his assistant which indicates that Moore did not sign the document himself.

 

[Mason66]

First off he scum bag refused already to follow the law so what kin of lawmaker can he become? Second, read the ****ing OP and comment on that, your moronic diversion is irrelevant.

What law did he refuse to follow?

If you want people to take you seriously, try laying off the profanity and name calling.

 

[Mason66]

No, the yearbook was signed Roy Moore D.A.
The divorce document was signed Roy Moore/ D.A.
The difference is obvious. The 'D.A.' on the court document is clearly in a different handwriting because it's his assistant's initials. On the yearbook, it's clearly in the same handwriting. The signatures look like the same person wrote them.
When he signed the yearbook, Moore was a DA.
He signed the yearbook. Which doesn't mean a thing except that he lied. It's the assault that matters.

You can make excuses all you want. Moore would not sign his future assistants initial next to his name.

Also there appears to be two different color for the ink.

 

[Mason66]

They said they would turn it over to the Senate Ethics Committee and a proper expert for analysis. Did you miss that?

Did you miss that she knows that the Senate can't investigate Moore since he is not a Senator.

That means her offer is bull****. You fell for it.

 

[MTAtech]

Sounds like you are bigoted against an entire state.

The best way to make sure *100%* of a constituency will vote against you is to say you think they're all *equally* deplorable. They aren't. *Only* 35% said they were more likely to vote for Moore after this controversy came out.

 

[haymarket]

She agreed to turn it over only if the Senate starts an ethics investigation, which is impossible because Moore is not in the Senate yet.

Patience.

 

[haymarket]

Roy Moore would never sign his name like that because the DA is the initials of his assistant which indicates that Moore did not sign the document himself.

Other than your own rationalizations, do you have any actual verifiable proof of this claim?

 

[haymarket]

Did you miss that she knows that the Senate can't investigate Moore since he is not a Senator.

That means her offer is bull****. You fell for it.

The Senate can only investigate other Senators? I never knew that and I taught Government for 33 years. I always thought the Senate had fairly wide authority to investigate lots of things including people who were not Senators. Perhaps they have other committees other than Ethics which could handle this?

 

[Mason66]

Other than your own rationalizations, do you have any actual verifiable proof of this claim?

If you don't believe you can wait until the item is looked at by an independent person.

The woman nor her attorney will allow that, so you will be waiting for a long time.

 

[Mason66]

The Senate can only investigate other Senators? I never knew that and I taught Government for 33 years. I always thought the Senate had fairly wide authority to investigate lots of things including people who were not Senators. Perhaps they have other committees other than Ethics which could handle this?

I don't even see why the ethics committee would investigate this let alone any other one.

 

[Grand Mal]

You can make excuses all you want. Moore would not sign his future assistants initial next to his name.

Also there appears to be two different color for the ink.

Ohfergawdsake.
He didn't sign his future assistant's initials, he put his position, DA.
This straw you're clutching at isn't going to hold up. The guy is toast. If he does get elected he'll walk right into an ethics investigation. Remember, this yearbook thing is just one of several.
Colour? You have a pic that shows a different colour? I doubt that, but you can show me wrong.
As for excuses, well, we know who's trying to excuse what.

 

[Grand Mal]

Roy Moore would never sign his name like that because the DA is the initials of his assistant which indicates that Moore did not sign the document himself.

When Moore signed the yearbook, he was an assistant. DA was his job title. Assistant DA, to be precise. Years later, as a judge, he had an assistant with the initials 'DA'.
This isn't that hard to understand.

 

[haymarket]

If you don't believe you can wait until the item is looked at by an independent person.

The woman nor her attorney will allow that, so you will be waiting for a long time.

That is not true. You are making stuff up. The attorney said they would be willing to turn over the book to the proper authorities.

 

[haymarket]

I don't even see why the ethics committee would investigate this let alone any other one.

The Senate has many committees of which Ethics is only one. They can investigate if they want to.

 

[radcen]

What the hell is wrong with the right wing mentality when a child molester is a better option that a Democrat? That shows how absolutely mentally ill too many right wingers are today.

I'm sorry, but I don't see it as a one-sided phenomenon. Take the current Hollywood stuff, for example. Far too many liberals are loathe to actually turn their backs on their friends, and are only doing so out of public pressure. And even then it's luke-warm compared to the venom they reserve for the other side. From my vantage point it's just another example of how politics trumps everything else. It's an example of how morally corrupt our society is becoming overall.

 

[cpwill]

One of DP's most religiously pious members has just come out in favor of voting for a child molester lest a Democrat win.

I disagree with this, but I understand the logic behind it. If you believe that it's zero sum, and that you have to make a choice between the two, molesting a few teenagers is less horrific than the mass murder of infants.

Personally, I'm not willing to put my name next to either, and I suspect that making the short term decision here to back Moore will actually do more long-term damage to the cause, but I understand why people disagree with me on that.

Trump led the Republican party into adopting principles it never would have dreamed of considering ten years ago

Yup. Although, to be fair, Trump wasn't fully the problem - he was a symptom of a disease apparently already within our midst. Evangelicals (!) are now more likely than any other group to think it's fine if a politician commits grave moral atrocities. Yeesh.

and almost immediately after the Alabama governor's statement betting odds immediately pulled Moore back ahead of Jones. Leadership matters, and that leadership is pulling about 40% of our country into hell.

1. Nah, individuals put themselves in hell.
2. Here on this earth, however, we're all in the same boat. Wherever we're going, we're all going there together.

Ten years ago I disagreed with Republicans on nearly everything, but we did share most core humanitarian and Democratic principles, but no longer.

:shrug: As has been amply discussed this week, Republicans aren't unique in their willingness to man the ramparts defending morally indefensible men whom they find politically useful. I'd say what we've seen is that Republicans do, sadly, share the same core principles as Democrats - both prioritize power.

I've got to get back to work. This **** is super depressing.

Don't worry. It'll get worse.

 

[radcen]

I haven't heard any Democrats clamoring for Norm Coleman or Mike McFadden to replace Al Franken.

I'd vote for Norm Petersen.

"A beer in every mug"