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AG William Barr says 'spying did occur' on Trump campaign, is reviewing whether it was lawful

Irwin Corey said:
I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. IMHO, Barr is proving, more so each day, that he ISN'T the Attorney General of The United States, but the "ACTING Attorney General of tRump". His claim that the tRump campaign was spied proves where his loyalties lie, NOT We The People, and makes his redacted Mueller report highly suspect.
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Did you see the part of the hearing where, when specifically asked if he had any evidence to support these allegations, he said "No"?

The AG of the USA is literally starting conspiracy theories to fool the American electorate. Jesus, what a clown show.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, not to any rational, sober adult there isn't, nor can you provide anything that would justify it.
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I could but I will do that with those who actually want to have a discussion on the topic.
 
calamity said:
:2rofll:
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I know right.

The AG himself admitted he has no evidence for his conspiracy theories, but by golly, the base believes whatever they're told to believe, and without a shred of evidence. Isn't that literally the definition of gullible?
 
Airyaman said:
I personally don't have an issue with an investigation into the "oranges" of the investigation. Bring it on. If there was something amiss, lets find out.

I get the sneaking suspicion nothing will be found however.
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This isn't 2016 and Loretta Lynch isn't AG and Comey isn't the director of the FBI. I have a sneaking feeling some people should buy property in a non extradition country.
 
Irwin Corey said:
I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. IMHO, Barr is proving, more so each day, that he ISN'T the Attorney General of The United States, but the "ACTING Attorney General of tRump". His claim that the tRump campaign was spied proves where his loyalties lie, NOT We The People, and makes his redacted Mueller report highly suspect.
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Just because Barr is going to go by the law and not what the Democrat are whining about does not make him Acting AG for Trump. You aren't going to like what is about to be uncovered. But it needs to be exposed no matter which party did it. Barr knows who is at fault.
 
JustHanging said:
Um, Barr just testified that he had No evidence.

So where ever you're getting your information from, they're playing you for a fool. I would suggest finding a new source for your information.
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No, he said said he did not have specific evidence but he did have questions about it. If you have all the evidence you need, there is no need to investigate. But numerous people who have seen the evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant on Carter Page and thereby gain access to the Trump campaign have said that no court in the land would have issued that warrant if those asking for it had been at all honest in the 'evidence' they had. That non evidence was nothing more than an unsupportable, uncollaborated, unconfirmed, and unreliable dossier paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign that the author would not vouch for its authenticity, nor would Director Comey. But the FBI didn't reveal that bit of information to the FISA judge for the first warrant or to obtain two additional warrants. Andrew McCabe, second in command at the FBI at the time has testified that without the dossier there would have been no warrant. And they didn't reveal that the information was unreliable or that the opposing campaign had ordered it done and had paid for it.

That alone deserves a thorough investigation if we are to have any confidence in the integrity of the system ever again. There is probably a lot more but that is a good place to start. Inferring from Barr's congressional testimony in which he was not willing to offer a lot of conspiracy theories for media consumption, I am guessing that is exactly where he is starting.
 
SLC said:
Just because Barr is going to go by the law and not what the Democrat are whining about does not make him Acting AG for Trump. You aren't going to like what is about to be uncovered. But it needs to be exposed no matter which party did it. Barr knows who is at fault.
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I refer you to JustHangn's post #176.

Did you see the part of the hearing where, when specifically asked if he had any evidence to support these allegations, he said "No"?
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Barr is flying cover for the Donald, and causing more divisiveness in our Country. He's tRumps ag, not just tRumps pick for AG. :2wave:
 
Irwin Corey said:
I refer you to JustHangn's post #176.



Barr is flying cover for the Donald, and causing more divisiveness in our Country. He's tRumps ag, not just tRumps pick for AG. :2wave:
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Barr knows what has been alleged and wants to see all the facts before he makes a decision on guilt or innocence that takes and investigation. [unlike Comey] Plus Barr isn't about to discuss an ongoing investigation. And Barr knows what the IG has already uncovered.
 
Atomic Kid said:
You're not answering the question. Do you object to the report being fully released or not? I don't why you would object. If you truly believe that the truth is on your side then it would seem you would have us right where you want us.
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Same thing can be asked about investigating the allegation of spying.

Do you object to that?

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SLC said:
Barr knows what has been alleged and wants to see all the facts before he makes a decision on guilt or innocence that takes and investigation. [unlike Comey] Plus Barr isn't about to discuss an ongoing investigation. And Barr knows what the IG has already uncovered.
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So the AG made an accusation, and had evidence for that accusation. And mind you, this was an accusation to protect Trump.

But when asked directly during the hearing, he lied and said he had no evidence. So he didn't want to protect Trump too much?

Oh Jesus H., I can hardly wait to hear your "logic" explaining this. It should be good for more than a few :lamo
 
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trouble13 said:
Same thing can be asked about investigating the allegation of spying.

Do you object to that?
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IF there is evidence of wrongdoing, then of course it should be investigated. Why would political affiliation make any difference? Jesus, what's wrong with you people, never wanting your leader held to any standard of decent behavior?

No wonder your country is such a clown show, to slightly misquote Galatians, you've reaped what you've sown.
 
trixare4kids said:
AG William Barr says 'spying did occur' on Trump campaign, is reviewing whether it was lawful




IMO, Barr will find that there was a political coup, a take down of Trump as a prospective presidential candidate and then, president. This should never ever happen to another presidential candidate/president again.
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The comment by Barr was great.
Yes, we all already knew it ... despite half of us never admitting it.
But I loved the matter-of-fact way he said it like "Where the hell have you been, Senator?".
All the exploding heads after hearing it was a bonus.
 
JustHanging said:
So the AG made an accusation, and had evidence for that accusation. And mind you, this was an accusation to protect Trump.

But when asked directly during the hearing, he lied and said he had no evidence. So he didn't want to protect Trump too much?

Oh Jesus H., I can hardly wait to hear your "logic" explaining this. It should be good for more than a few :lamo
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Its not evidence until an OFFICIAL criminal investigation has begun. He knows there was spying but he does not know if it was legal or not. THAT predicate needs to be investigated. Do you want to bet that people will be indicted from the investigation that is started over this issue?
 
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haymarket said:
Barr completely and utterly destroyed his own credibility when he admitted he had no evidence to support the right wing flight of fantasy.
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What? When? I just watched his testimony and he was pretty clear.
 
Bullseye said:
What? When? I just watched his testimony and he was pretty clear.
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lol...that doesn't say much for your perception of clarity.

Barr Says 'I Think Spying Did Occur' on Trump Campaign

“I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal,” Barr told senators at a budget hearing that, like a similar House hearing Tuesday, was dominated by questions about special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

It was not immediately clear what “spying” Barr was referring to, but President Donald Trump’s supporters have repeatedly made accusations of political bias within the FBI and seized on anti-Trump text messages sent and received by one of the lead agents involved in investigating whether the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia.

... told a Senate appropriations subcommittee that though he did not have specific evidence of wrongdoing, “I do have questions about it.” His review is separate from a Justice Department inspector general investigation into the early days of the FBI’s Russia probe, which Barr said he expects to conclude sometime around May or June.
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Clear as ****ing mud.
 
JustHanging said:
IF there is evidence of wrongdoing, then of course it should be investigated. Why would political affiliation make any difference? Jesus, what's wrong with you people, never wanting your leader held to any standard of decent behavior?

No wonder your country is such a clown show, to slightly misquote Galatians, you've reaped what you've sown.
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First off i did not ask you the question. I asked it of someone who was arguing that nobody should object to the mueller report unless they had something to hide.

Its off topic but i used it steer the convrrsation back to the topic by asking if he felt the same way about Barr investigating the legitimacy of the surveillance that took place.

I have no clue why your being defensive about me asking a straight gorward question to another poster. I did not make any accusations.

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It's becoming obvious that the leftosphere is slipping into full panic mode. Their warbling cries of "nuh-us" is approaching 110db, and their tone is becoming even more surly (yeah, I know - hard to believe that's even possible).
 
Bullseye said:
What Barr said was clear. Here's a clue. When the nation's top law enforcement officer "has guestions about it", it's going to get investigated. That's how questions get answered.
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lol...You believe that saying, "I think" is clear?

smh
 
Bullseye said:
What? When? I just watched his testimony and he was pretty clear.
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Yep it was clear:

When pressed by Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) whether he has any evidence of wrongdoing by the FBI or Mueller in the Russia investigation, Barr said: "I have no specific evidence that I would cite right now. I do have questions about it." Barr said he plans on reviewing "both the genesis and conduct" of the Russia investigation.
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Barr walks back claim that law enforcement spied on Trump campaign - Axios
 
Herkamer63 said:
I hope Barr launches an ACTUAL investigation into collusion and all this other bull crap going on.

The REAL collusion was Hillary and her campaign, paying the Russians and Christopher Steele, to come up with a piece of opposition research against Trump, as a means to stop him from becoming President. The so called (pee) dossier was born.

Then you have the FBI sending agents into Trump's campaign. And let's cut the crap of "well, Barr says that he THINKS they spied on him" to they spied on him, plain and simple. If there were Russians trying sabotage, disrupt, or derail Trump and his campaign, they wouldn't have been quiet about it. They would have gone to Trump and his advisers and say that Russians are trying to get into your campaign team. They DIDN'T even do that. They didn't send agents into Hillary's campaign. So there was clear evidence to support that the FBI was trying to help Hillary's campaign by attempting to obtain any kind of dirt on Trump. That is NOT there role and must be investigated as well.

Finally, you have the FISA warrant scam, which is linked to both the pee dossier and the Obama regime. I personally believe that Obama was, and still is, the queen bee behind this farce. He wanted his legacy protected and wants the same power he had while he was President. So he, more than likely, ordered the FBI to spy on the the entire Trump team and use the pee dossier as some sort of evidence to use against Trump himself. He also, again, more than likely, wire tapped Trump Tower, helped get the pee dossier be written by MI6, ordered the FBI to send spies into Trump's campaign, set Papadopolus up, and hired Mueller to "investigate" Trump. If there is ANYONE that needs to be investigated and prosecuted, it's Obama because he was the ONLY ONE that could have authorized all this to happen at that time. And I will bet, because he's so narcissistic and arrogant, that he desperately wants back in the White House as President because he really believes that he was the best leader not only here but in the history of the world. Say what you want about Trump, but at least he ran multiple businesses and wrote paychecks. Obama did neither but yet claims he's the smartest man alive and know more about business than anyone. Anyway, I'm getting sidetracked.

I hope Barr gets to the bottom of all this and sort out this mess.
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Were you sticking needles in your little Obama doll while you posted this?
 
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