1) Damned it!
2) I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that people make up their own minds and choose their own actions.
People don't make choices independent of influence.
This pastor was influence to burn the Quran because of his view of Islam and people in the Middle East.
The people who murdered men and women in the ME, were influenced by the pastor burning the Quran and said so.
The Pastor did not MAKE those men over there kill Americans.
The pastor did not make them... He did not force them to kill anybody.
The pastor was not forced or made to burn the Quran either.
Everybody is accountant for their own action...
First off, we're fighting a war so that put the Americans there in the first place.
And I am arguing that each event is caused by a preceding even (causality), not free will. You seem to be going back forth... it's free will, it's causality.
We were attacked on 9/11, so now we are fighting a war. A lot of people in America have intolerant views of Islam, because we were attacked by them on 9/11 (causation)... Some people here even hate Islam and think it's just a hate filled religion, therefore they are caused to hate Islam in return (causation).
This event influenced the pastor to burn the Quran... and because of the chain of events and causation in the ME, many people there hate America.
Honestly, the results of this pastor's actions were not unpredictable. We have seen this play out before in Denmark over cartoons and Draw Muhammad Day.
The people who murdered the men in women did not make that choice free of influence, or suddenly feel like killing people for no reason. This was not a random killing. Likewise the pastor did not make his choice free of influence... that's all I am saying. This is not innocent people, acting freely on free will and doing **** randomly without cause. The pastor cannot honestly be that ignorant. The pastor knew who would be pissed off, and he had a reason to burn the Quran.
Second off, we're fighting a hostile ideology which puts us at odds with many of the people over there. Third off, the fringe group of these hostile people are insane. Fourth...off? he burned a Koran, he did not hold a gun to the people's head to make them murder, he did not endorse the murder in the least, he did not pay for them to murder someone, in short he did not directly make them do anything.
And nobody held a gun to his head and forced him to burn the Quran... Nobody was forced in this situation to do anything. Each party is accountable for their role in the sequence of events.
The people at fault are the people who pull the trigger. Their brains sent the signal to their hands to pull the trigger.
I never said anybody else pulled the trigger.
The Pastor cannot affect that.
The pastor can affect this, had he not burned a Quran. He was warned by the Pentagon... He was warned by the murderers and terrorists themselves. He had the ability to decide not set a Quran on fire, as much as the murderers had the ability to not pay him any attention and to not kill people.
If he has any grasp of human interaction, he would know his actions would incite anger not handshaking and parades.
This was not an immediate reaction like yelling fire in a crowded theater. These people had time to think and plan about what they were doing. They are, therefore, completely accountable for the actions being taken. I'm not going to curtail our rights here because of some dumbass terrorists half the world away. That's how they win. They can all go choke on bacon for all I care.
They have won... They can take this story and say, "hey look, America does hate us... Hey look, they burn our holy book, they hate Islam. Defend Islam."
I never said he was responsible for pulling the trigger...