Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. My attempt to interpret both sides[W:139, 451]

[vegas giants]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

What the hell? You cannot be a Todd Akin believer!!!!

Did he really say that? My god....that is horrible

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Unless you were forced to have sex, you knew or should have known the possibility of becoming pregnant. If you engaged in the activity with a known risk, you assume the consequences of that activity. You shouldn't be able to end a life because the risk became reality.


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Do you have the ability to make your own decisions as it relates to our health?

So should a pregnant woman.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

..............."Which is one of the reasons women choose abortion".....................

Key word being highlighted. Women choose an abortion, they choose to get pregnant. We are not talking about a pre-existing condition beyond the person's control or something they were born with. Being pregnant is the result of an action that is entirely voluntary.

Some women choose to get pregnant. Those women are unlikely to abort unless something goes wrong.

Women who do not want to be pregnant do not choose it. We cannot will ourselves to conceive or not conceive. If we could, there would be no abortion clinics or fertility clinics.

Thus, a voluntary abortion shouldn't be covered through health care. It is not necessary to have an abortion. It doesn't save a life.

End of story.

Gestating and giving birth is voluntary. It is not necessary so using your "logic", should not be covered.

In my country, both are covered. Either cover both or neither.

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Did he really say that? My god....that is horrible

Earlier: Akin: 'Legitimate rape' rarely leads to pregnancy - POLITICO

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

 

[ksu_aviator]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

No one is forced to seek permission. Go to whoever you want and pay for it

Could Charlie Gard go to whomever he wanted? No.


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[ksu_aviator]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Unless you were forced to smoke you should have known about cancer. This is the weakest argument. Get to the real argument

Yes. Yes you should. Maybe not 60-70 years ago. But today...YES YOU SHOULD!


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[vegas giants]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Earlier: Akin: 'Legitimate rape' rarely leads to pregnancy - POLITICO

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Oh I know akin said it.....but someone would repeat it? That is disgusting

 

[ksu_aviator]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Do you have the ability to make your own decisions as it relates to our health?

So should a pregnant woman.

Of course she should. Unless that decision deliberately leads to the death of another human.


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[Scrabaholic]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

I am referring to abortion being covered via insurance.

That shouldn't be allowed.

Answer me this year2late:

If gastric surgery isn't covered under insurance, why is an abortion?

I'll patiently wait for your response.

What makes you think gastric bypass isn't covered? I believe at least some insurance companies cover it as does Medicaid or medicare or whatever it is you call it down there.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Yes. Yes you should. Maybe not 60-70 years ago. But today...YES YOU SHOULD!


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You deny cancer treatment to a smoker first and then get back to me on abortion. It will never happen

 

[Scrabaholic]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

1) Is there actual proof that women can get pregnant via rape?

I cannot believe you are asking this question.

2) Make the exception then. Abortion shall not be covered under insurance unless coercion or rape was involved. I am not including incest because incest IMO is a choice.

If you do that, expect to see the number of alleged rape cases to skyrocket. (Women will claim rape to get an abortion) Not that it's going to happen as legal abortion is going nowhere.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

What the hell? You cannot be a Todd Akin believer!!!!

Yeah, I was gobsmacked, too.

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

What makes you think gastric bypass isn't covered? I believe at least some insurance companies cover it as does Medicaid or medicare or whatever it is you call it down there.

Hell, he stated gastric surgery in general.

I have yet to hear about what kind of insurance he is speaking to.

But after his rape and pregnancy comment...this issue is small potatoes.:lamo

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Could Charlie Gard go to whomever he wanted? No.


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Charlie Gard did not have the capacity to make such decisions.

 

[minnie616]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

People need to be accountable for their actions and take responsibility. This is not a punishment, but reality.

Aborting an unwelcome pregnancy can be taking responsibility.

The easiest thing to do is nothing which is one reason why there so many neglected unwanted children.

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

I am referring to abortion being covered via insurance.

That shouldn't be allowed.

Answer me this year2late:

If gastric surgery isn't covered under insurance, why is an abortion?

I'll patiently wait for your response.

FAQ – Medicare & Medicaid Weight Loss Surgery Foundation of America

If you are speaking to federally funded weight loss (gastric) procedures apparently Medicare and Medicaid do.

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

I am referring to abortion being covered via insurance.

That shouldn't be allowed.

Answer me this year2late:

If gastric surgery isn't covered under insurance, why is an abortion?

I'll patiently wait for your response.

FAQ – Medicare & Medicaid Weight Loss Surgery Foundation of America

If you are speaking to federally funded weight loss (gastric) procedures apparently Medicare and Medicaid do.

 

[minnie616]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

I am referring to abortion being covered via insurance.

That shouldn't be allowed.

Answer me this year2late:

If gastric surgery isn't covered under insurance, why is an abortion?

I'll patiently wait for your response.

It depends on your insurance policy.

Gastric bypass surgery is covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield.

ObesityCoverage strongly feels that morbid obesity is a disease and every insurance company should cover these life saving procedures. So we are happy to report that Anthem BCBS covers weight loss surgery. In fact, most of the Blue cross Blue Shield network has some sort of coverage for weight loss surgery

 

[year2late]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

It depends on your insurance policy.

Gastric bypass surgery is covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield.

Many policies do.

And Medicare and Medicaid do as well, (see above link)

 

[Bucky]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Some women choose to get pregnant. Those women are unlikely to abort unless something goes wrong.

Women who do not want to be pregnant do not choose it. We cannot will ourselves to conceive or not conceive. If we could, there would be no abortion clinics or fertility clinics.

Gestating and giving birth is voluntary. It is not necessary so using your "logic", should not be covered.

In my country, both are covered. Either cover both or neither.

???????

Newsflash: Most pregnancies are unplanned. And the majority of women that do abort could conceive.

#Reality

 

[minnie616]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

???????

Newsflash: Most pregnancies are unplanned. And the majority of women that do abort could conceive.

#Reality

News Flash:

All of my pregnancies were planned and wanted by my husband and I.

 

[Bucky]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

News Flash:

All of my pregnancies were planned and wanted by my husband and I.

So your situation is the norm for most women in this country?

 

[Bucky]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Aborting an unwelcome pregnancy can be taking responsibility.

The easiest thing to do is nothing which is one reason why there so many neglected unwanted children.

I guess a mother murdering her children can be seen from some, as taking responsibility.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

I guess a mother murdering her children can be seen from some, as taking responsibility.

Well that person should go to jail. That has nothing to do with abortion though

 

[Bucky]

Re: Abortion: BOTH sides have good points. This is my attempt to interpret both sides

Well that person should go to jail. That has nothing to do with abortion though

An abortion doctor was arrested.

His name is Kermit Gosnell and many pro-choicers supported him.