• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

A tribute to the fallen nation of CHOP and it's peaceful citizenry

calamity said:
Ah, a black guy in a hoodie with grills and bling...hmm, did the KKK put out this video?
Click to expand...

No, mostly it's a compilation of videos made by people at #CHAZ/#CHOP who thought it was badass to post clips of the cool **** happening in the AutoZone.

Also in the video, are clips of liberal MSM interviewing Democratic Party leaders downplaying the violence like it's a "Farmers Market", "block party", "Summer Festival", and other dip**** ignorance.

When played together, these clips (and the video as a whole) demonstrate the absurdity of liberal claims being made from the beginning.

It's a **** pie. Minnie's Special **** Pie. And she made it just for you.
 
calamity said:
No. But, I am sure racists believe that BLM stand for violence and destruction...hey, it's what blacks do, Amirite?
Click to expand...

It's what Fox News teaches
 
SheWolf said:
90% of your threads are basically, "This happened to a white person, but what if this happened to a black person? I think it's racist, but society doesn't recognize white racism!"

Do you wake up in the morning and think about everybody's race immediately? :lol:
Click to expand...

That's a creative piece of fiction that has nothing to do with reality.

So what did you think of the tribute to CHOP?
 
OlNate said:
Not particularly. It fails to demonstrate context and root cause.
Click to expand...

OK... So you believe that the violence and destruction depicted in the video was taken out of context, and therefore was all completely justified?

.
 
Grim17 said:
That's a creative piece of fiction that has nothing to do with reality.

So what did you think of the tribute to CHOP?
Click to expand...

I could prove you wrong, but why waste me time? I saw what happened when Person proved you wrong.
 
Grim17 said:
OK... So you believe that the violence and destruction depicted in the video was taken out of context, and therefore was all completely justified?

.
Click to expand...

I'm saying if you're pissed about the effect, you should deal with the cause. It's what intelligent people do. This video, on the other hand, is what unintelligent people cling to, rather than dealing with the cause.

And that's about as much time as I plan on spending discussing your ****ty, inflammatory toilet of a hit piece. I don't deny that what it depicts happened. I just think it's gross when folks take a snapshot of an incident and attempt to use it to rewrite the entire story. You know, the one that starts with cops treating black folks differently than white folks in your country, over a time span of, well, forever. But, hey, have fun with your Goebbels-esque little video you got there.
 
OlNate said:
Click to expand...


I particularly liked and completely agree with the very first words he said in that video:

Let me say as I've always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. I'm still convinced that non violence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice. ​

It's those words that explain why you didn't care much for the video I posted, because it shows that the BLM movement, the mobs they inspired, and the democrats & leftist who supported them, did not follow the teachings of MLK, America's greatest civil rights leader, and chose to do the exact opposite.

.
 
Grim17 said:
What video were you watching, because the one I posted did not contain any racism what so ever.

.
Click to expand...

The video with the image of a black man in a hoodie with gold teeth in his mouth and five giant rings on his fingers wasn't racist?

:lamo
 
Grim17 said:
I particularly liked and completely agree with the very first words he said in that video:

Let me say as I've always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. I'm still convinced that non violence is the most potent weapon available to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and justice. ​

It's those words that explain why you didn't care much for the video I posted, because it shows that the BLM movement, the mobs they inspired, and the democrats & leftist who supported them, did not follow the teachings of MLK, America's greatest civil rights leader, and chose to do the exact opposite.

.
Click to expand...

No, sorry, you're wrong. Rather, it's the words:

But at the same time, it is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots. I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.
Click to expand...

That's what your hit piece leaves out, and that's why it bothers me. But it is unsurprising that you would miss the point of what MLK was saying there. I, too, am not for rioting, for the same reasons as MLK outlines. However if I am against riots, I must be against the root cause that leads to riots.

Are you?
 
OlNate said:
I'm saying if you're pissed about the effect, you should deal with the cause.
Click to expand...

It's the height of dishonesty to equate society today, with American society of 60 years ago...

This is about 1 cop, not an entire police force, an entire city, an entire state or the entire nation... There is no epidemic of racism, institutional or otherwise in America, and you damned well know it.

George Floyd was an excuse to riot, loot and attack people, and the democrats and leftists like like yourself were and are perfectly willing to allow this reprehensible behavior because you think it might benefit you politically. I hope you wear the death of that 16 year old kid in Seattle, and all the other people murdered across the country during this over blown temper tantrum, like a badge of honor.

.
 
Grim17 said:
It's the height of dishonesty to equate society today, with American society of 60 years ago...

This is about 1 cop, not an entire police force, an entire city, an entire state or the entire nation... There is no epidemic of racism, institutional or otherwise in America, and you damned well know it.

George Floyd was an excuse to riot, loot and attack people, and the democrats and leftists like like yourself were and are perfectly willing to allow this reprehensible behavior because you think it might benefit you politically. I hope you wear the death of that 16 year old kid in Seattle, and all the other people murdered across the country during this over blown temper tantrum, like a badge of honor.

.
Click to expand...


lol...nah, bud YOU wear it, by continuing to be for the winters of delay. I've never been for the riots. I'm just grown up enough to want to actually deal with them, rather than peddle in dishonest douchebaggery. But, hey, you do you. :)
 
OlNate said:
lol...nah, bud YOU wear it, by continuing to be for the winters of delay. I've never been for the riots. I'm just grown up enough to want to actually deal with them, rather than peddle in dishonest douchebaggery. But, hey, you do you. :)
Click to expand...

How does one deal with an epidemic that does not exist? Racism in America is not systemic, not institutional, and with a few very tiny exceptions, only exists on an individual level. You don't burn down a nation over the acts of a handful of individuals, but that is precisely what's been taking place.

You may call a video that honestly and accurately depicts the violence and destruction that's taken place the last month, which the mainstream news media all but ignored, as being dishonest, but that makes you the dishonest one. There was and is, no justification for what's taken place since the George Floyd murder... NONE.
 
Grim17 said:
My name is not Paul Joseph Watson... In other words, it's not my video.

Speaking of which, what did you think of it? I think it captured the essence of the BLM movement and their violence and destruction they've dished out over the last several weeks... don't you?
Click to expand...

I was amused that in Seattle where the mayor called the take over of a part of the city by anarchists a "block party" and compared it to the "summer of love" in SF in the late '60s, that within a day of anarchists marching to her personal residence and threatening her she ordered to have the police go into "CHOP" and dismantle it. Proof that liberals and progressives can't administer anything.

Oh and BTW, the so called "summer of love" in SF turned into a sh** show too by the fall of 1967 and the people who lived there were telling people PLEASE DON'T come here.
 
Grim17 said:
Playing the race card is his go-to move when ever he encounters a post or thread that runs counter to his political agenda. When he can't argue on the merits, he attempts to suppress the facts by using the race card in a desperate attempt to discredit the source.

That's just how he rolls.

.
Click to expand...

It’s good to know what the pony’s one trick is.
 
Grim17 said:
This is a fitting tribute to what we were told was going to be the next summer of love.




.
Click to expand...


A generation down the toilet.
 
TobyOne said:
What a **** hole that place was. When people stopped paying attention to them they didn't put up much of a fight when police finally grew some balls.
Click to expand...

No one other than the bigots, scared old white people, and the right wing loonies ever believed any differently.

It was obvious to most people that this would wear itself out with time. Which is exactLy what happened.

But if Fox was your “news”, you were treated to a nonstop propoganda campaign that positively dripped with anticipation of the riot that they were promoting to thier fearful all white audience.
 
Hypothetical said:
for god's sake, how is a video that shows actual footage of the place in question, racism?
Click to expand...

So, tell us about the producers of this video. You are actively promoting it as “news”, when all it really does is use carefully edited images of protestors, interspersed with cuts of Trump and Fox Noise.

You don’t actually know anything about this video at all.

But it pushed all the George Wallace/Dick Daley buttons in your head. And that was enough. It told you what you wer already instructed (and inclined)to believe.

And there seems to be a genuine sense of disappointment that this thing ended the way most people expected it would. Seattle leaders were a lot smarter than the President (which doesn’t take much), and the blood dripping right wing media, which attached every black stereotype and dirty hippie meme to it from the start.

Once the purée ignored it (all but Fox and right wing trash radio), the thing fell apart.

And if anyone even doubts that this was produced specifically to push the buttons of angry old white Trump types, consider that the whole thing is held together by a forgettable Pery Cuomo tune that almost no one under the age of 65 has ever heard of.
 
Last edited:
TomFitz said:
So, tell us about the producers of this video. You are actively promoting it as “news”, when all it really does is use carefully edited images of protestors, interspersed with cuts of Trump and Fox Noise.

You don’t actually know anything about this video at all.

But it pushed all the George Wallace/Dick Daley buttons in your head. And that was enough. It told you what you wer already instructed (and inclined)to believe.

And there seems to be a genuine sense of disappointment that this thing ended the way most people expected it would. Seattle leaders were a lot smarter than the President (which doesn’t take much), and the blood dripping right wing media, which attached every black stereotype and dirty hippie meme to it from the start.

Once the purée ignored it (all but Fox and right wing trash radio), the thing fell apart.

And if anyone even doubts that this was produced specifically to push the buttons of angry old white Trump types, consider that the whole thing is held together by a forgettable Pery Cuomo tune that almost no one under the age of 65 has ever heard of.
Click to expand...


it shows some of the dangerous goings on in CHAZ when the mayor of seattle says it is the summer of love, exposing the blatant hypocrisy of the situation. that is needed. who the producers are does not matter in the least. oh and there were many other news agencies portrayed other than fox news. most of them were saying it was a peaceful farmers market, like idiots.

I am sorry the truth does not coincide well with your carefully constructed narrative.
 
Hypothetical said:
it shows some of the dangerous goings on in CHAZ when the mayor of seattle says it is the summer of love, exposing the blatant hypocrisy of the situation. that is needed. who the producers are does not matter in the least. oh and there were many other news agencies portrayed other than fox news. most of them were saying it was a peaceful farmers market, like idiots.

I am sorry the truth does not coincide well with your carefully constructed narrative.
Click to expand...

As you just confirmed, you know nothing about this video other than unidentified images, interspersed with right wing talking point.

You also know nothing about where it cane from or who produced it. You obviously don’t care either.

You saw what you wanted to believe and you started promoting it.

I didn’t build a narrative. The right wing mystery producer you’re promoting did.

This is a right wing political marketing piece designed to push your buttons. Nothing but a big dog whistle for angry old white people.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom