frazier991
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I have worked in many non-union places that could have used a union-the way they were intended. Unfortunately greedy employers are often being chosed as a lesser of two evils. The quality of unions pretty much sucks. Again few of you would dare tackle the issue of unions forcing me to contribute to political causes I don't believe in. That's because there is no defense for that. Put simply, unions have ruined the unions. It's too bad. I once worked for the world's largest meat packers, IBP inc. They were notoriously horrible to their employees-I even witnessed some thing that were downright criminal. But when it came to a vote to unionize, it was voted down big-time, with no coercing by the company-they didn't have too. The Union, the UFCW, did all the coercing and turned people off so much that they accepted the abuse from IBP over the "benefits" of unionizing with the UFCW. Until unions re-invent themselves and clean up, right to work is in no danger.They also set the possibility for a minimum standard to exist. In a non-union environment, even if every worker busts their ass, the employer can just dump more work on them and keep raising their standards for raises to urnealistic levels (look at commissioned retail employment; the bar always raises on sales.)
With a union, you can realistically get together with your boss and determine, definitively, just what a days work SHOULD consist of. There is no great moral evil in that. Work can and should be demanding and challenging, but it shouldn't be increased in volume just on some vague principle about work ethic.
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